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by jackblemming 4y ago
They're the real OpenAI! Great team.
- behnamoh 4y agoIf only they had chosen a better name... "Eleuther" is hard to pronounce correctly for someone who doesn't know the word.
- ftxbro 4y agohow do you pronounce it correctly
- danuker 4y agoI couldn't find the IPA even in Wiktionary, but I found out where it comes from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleutheromania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleutheromania
- stellaathena 4y agoActually the origin is this word (with the last two letters transposed), and the Wikipedia article gives IPA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleutheria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleutheria
- spapas82 4y agoIf it's from the greek word for freedom (ελευθερία) then i guess elefther: ele (like electric) f the (like thesis) r.
- akavi 4y agoWhere are you getting an /f/ sound from? Edit: Ah, it seems the digraph "ευ" is pronounced /ef/ in Modern Greek, despite (by convention) being transliterated "eu".
- spapas82 4y agoCorrect. Thee same pronunciation exists in ancient greek for example ευ ζην is ef zin (the good life). Also the ευ situation is a little more complex ie sometimes it is pronunciated as ev (depending if the next letter is a vowel).
- akavi 4y agoWikipedia suggests that "ευ" was pronounced /eu̯/ in ancient greek[0]. My suspicion is that "ευ ζην" is an Ancient Greek "fixed phrase" which is pronounced with Modern Greek phonology. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_phonology#Diphthongs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_phonology#Diphth...
- dwringer 4y agoHuh, this seems to be the same linguistic phenomenon observed in British English with the word "lieutenant" but perhaps independently evolved.
- 1f60c 4y agoI'm just going to keep saying YOO-luh-tuhr, thank you very much.
- e12e 4y agoReminds me of Yog-Sothoth, which would be a great name for an anthropomorphized statistical model... > Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate. Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth. He knows where the Old Ones broke through of old, and where They shall break through again. He knows where They have trod earth's fields, and where They still tread them, and why no one can behold Them as They tread.
- corysama 4y agoYou laugh. But, that has been the meme about GPT for a bit now https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1625850766039842824?cxt=HHwWkIDQ-Yqql5AtAAAA https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1625850766039842824?c... RLHF = Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback
- TeMPOraL 4y agoA meme that quickly became a long-form article: https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/janus-simulators https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/janus-simulators.
- TeMPOraL 4y agoReminds me of how there was a post on LessWrong some good decade ago, with a chilling premise: we somehow manage to get a safe, trustworthy, correct AI working, and as we fire it up and ask to tell us about our world, it starts talking about things we somehow can't perceive...
- canjobear 4y agoThe English convention is to pronounce -eu- in Greek words as /ju/, not /ef/.
- telotortium 4y agoYes, basically Greek words in English are pronounced as Latin loanwords, according to how the Greek words would have been pronounced in Latin around AD 1 (except that ph and th, but not ch, are pronounced as fricatives in English). Greek αυ and ευ were still pronounced as diphthongs at the time.
- elkos 4y agoMy name is Ελευθέριος and I transliterate it as Eleftherios in English.
- spapas82 4y agoThere's a "standard" way of how greek words should be transliterated in English (ELOT 743). You can test it here https://www.passport.gov.gr/passports/GrElotConverter/GrElotConverterEn.html https://www.passport.gov.gr/passports/GrElotConverter/GrElot... And yes, Eleftherios is the correct transliteration :)
- elkos 4y agoI know. I've even seen my name written as Eleytherios.
- bilsbie 4y agoI’d been saying E Luther. Is that all wrong?
- RobotToaster 4y agoI assume similar to luthier?
- layer8 4y agoLike the Eleuthera island in the Bahamas I would think: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3-F-7WKXG14 https://youtube.com/watch?v=3-F-7WKXG14 So Eh-Luther AI.
- coffeebeqn 4y agoWhich is everyone
- ttctciyf 4y agoEverytime I see it, I think of John Fowles' The Magus. See, for example: https://pzo31b.p3cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Letter1-768x1023.gif https://pzo31b.p3cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/20... (via https://www.fowlesbooks.com/1966-fowles-letter-to-high-school-student-sheds-light-on-the-magus/ https://www.fowlesbooks.com/1966-fowles-letter-to-high-schoo... )
- Dalewyn 4y agoOne measure of likelihood for success is how well the name rolls off the tongue.