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Yorkshuhman here… we say “ta” (tak) for thanks. We also say “cheers” (tschuss) for goodbye. Going a bit deeper, “dale” (daal - Dutch), “beck” (beek - Dutch).
by OnlyMortal 4y ago
Yorkshuhman here… we say “ta” (tak) for thanks. We also say “cheers” (tschuss) for goodbye.
Going a bit deeper, “dale” (daal - Dutch), “beck” (beek - Dutch).
Having learnt (not learned) in Amsterdam, it’s very, very like the dialects of the north east of Yorkshuh. So much so, it’s rather a surprise.
- martynr 4y agoExactly my observation as a southerner who has lived in the north and Scandinavia
- simonh 4y agoNorwegians speaking their native tongue to me sound like they’re speaking German with a Geordie accent.
- permo-w 4y agoif you’re only half-listening to a Scouser, it could easily be Dutch
- permo-w 4y agocheers means goodbye in Yorkshire? In Lancashire (and elsewhere in the UK) I’ve never heard it mean anything other than “thank you” or the thing you say after clinking glasses the only time I’ve ever heard anything different is from foreigners learning English
- plugin-baby 4y agohttps://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/cheers https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/cheers “goodbye” https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/cheerio https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/cheerio 1. “Goodbye”, 2. “Hello” https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/cheero https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/cheero “A friendly greeting”
- permo-w 4y agoyes I’m aware of the dictionary definitions, that’s why foreigners say it, but not once have I ever heard an actual Brit use it like that. it’s a definition that has pretty much passed out of common usage, if it was ever in it
- ArteEtMarte 4y agoCheers is used as goodbye here in the East Midlands. If you were here, you'd hear plenty of Brits use it on a daily basis.
- permo-w 4y agoin what context? I could be wrong about this of course, but I suspect what you’re observing is people saying thank you as they’re leaving: e.g. getting off the bus, or after buying something, or after receiving directions
- ZeroGravitas 4y agoThe phrase "Cheers for now" is less ambigous as a sign off or goodbye than cheers on its own.
- ArteEtMarte 4y agoIn the context of 'cheers' being a direct one-to-one replacement of 'goodbye'. (Or more precisely 'bye'.) If, in my local usage, there is any difference between 'bye' and 'cheers', it's that the latter has a bit more bonhomie about it. In this context, I'm afraid, you are wrong. When I'm in the office, the last thing I say to everybody else as I leave is, 'Cheers.' I'm not thanking them for letting me into office; I'm saying, 'Goodbye.' I'm perplexed as to why you're pushing this so hard. People who have experience of this are telling you something. But you, despite clearly not having the same experience, are telling them that they are wrong. Don't mean to be snarky, but why is this so important to you? Next up, 'Do Midlanders really call each other mardy?'
- OnlyMortal 4y agoIt’s also used in Bristol. “Cheers Drive” is a good-bye to a bus driver.
- permo-w 4y agois that “bye” or is it “thanks”?
- OnlyMortal 4y agoI understand it as “goodbye”. You have a point though.
- pbhjpbhj 4y agoAre you familiar with the Danelaw, and with Danegeld? I think that knowing "Danes" ruled much of mainland Britain for hundreds of years and provided kings of a unified-ish (pre-Norman) England (Cnut [Canute]) makes it less surprising?
- OnlyMortal 4y agoThe pronunciation of words between English and Dutch make them appear to be quite different. Once you’re used to hearing Dutch, which most British won’t be, the differences are much, much less than one might imagine.
- Eupraxias 4y agoAre you sure that "cheers" and "tschuss" are etymologically related? I would love that. Everything I could find points to a Latin cognate, "cara".
- OnlyMortal 4y agoMight be a common origin from Latin. It does appear to be more than a coincidence that my dialect and the modern German usage share a word that sounds the same and means the same.