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Hackers are reportedly getting laid off by organized crime groups
- bhaney 4y agoTruly no one is safe from the layoffs
- jmclnx 4y agoInteresting, it seems to be for ransomware people. But based on just the title alone, I need to ask: "What is the package ? Do you get to choose the color of your cement galoshes ?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cement_shoes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cement_shoes
- ourmandave 4y agoIt would warm my heart if these pos criminals getting laid off turned in their former pos employers.
- WalterSear 4y agoAnd lose their references and severance? Never!
- IshKebab 4y agoHa, good one! [1] But presumably they aren't really at risk of being exposed by these guys. [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People
- dilyevsky 4y agoI hope severance is uh… not literal
- Kye 4y agoIt's perfectly safe.
- dylan604 4y agomaybe they'll get a new neck tie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_necktie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_necktie
- Panoramix 4y agoNSFL... I wish I wouldn't have read that
- dhosek 4y agoClearly you weren’t around in the 80s
- dhosek 4y ago(On a vaguely connected note, the guy who DJ’d my wedding had a squealer’s scar. Lot of outfit guys still around in Chicago, although most of them are not so active anymore.)
- dylan604 4y agoI'm honestly some what surprised that reading about this is that disturbing. In a world where Saw 18 is being made, and all of the other gore trash that get lapped up the description of a Colombian necktie just seems tame to me. Who says people don't get desensitized again?
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y agoMaybe some jewelry instead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necklacing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necklacing
- dylan604 4y agoand environmentally unfriendly to boot
- paulpauper 4y agoI am sure Nigerian email scammers had a similar problem. At some point, there is maximum saturation of the market and no more victims left. Companies, individuals beefing up security, refusing to pay ransoms either by having it decoding by security researchers or having data backed up.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y agoBrother, there are always new marks.
- LightDub 4y agoI feel for them. For any reading, see link below for networking and opportunities. https://www.meetup.com/topics/softwaredev/ng/ https://www.meetup.com/topics/softwaredev/ng/
- khana 4y ago[dead]
- textadventure 4y agoThese folks put the organized in crime.
- subsubzero 4y agoI remember when the pandemic happened all of a sudden robo spam calls suddenly completely stopped for me. So even the pandemic hit cyber criminals! Also for whatever reason spam calls for me have greatly decreased in the past 6 months, for a while I was getting 3-4 spam calls a day and now its 1-2 a week.
- echelon 4y agoOnce they learn LLM+SST+TTS, though... Only strong legislation will stop it.
- scrame 4y agolol, how? The calls aren't coming from places that respect laws, they way that CAN-spam didn't stop spam mails.
- nawgz 4y agoBecause the calls are being enabled by absurdly weak security on the part of the telecoms. You think they can't stop spoofed numbers? They're making money allowing it is all
- WalterSear 4y agoAnd when they aren't, they don't want to spend the money to stop them.
- flangola7 4y agoRequire phone carriers to block networks that consistently send spam calls. This puts pressure on foreign networks to clamp down on the practice.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y agoThis is true, but they’re a lot more email servers that there are telco carriers. So it’s not entirely unwinnable.
- RobotToaster 4y agoI hope they give them a good reference.
- MonkeyMalarky 4y agoBill was extremely self-motivated and thrived working in a cross matrix organization. He consistently met quarterly revenue targets, even while helping to onboard and train junior extortionists.
- boredumb 4y agoToday is a sad day for hackerinos. I take full responsibility for these layoffs, we recruited far too many folks during the pandemic.
- bink 4y agoBack in the day we used to refer to unskilled hackers as "rodents".
- lioeters 4y ago> unskilled hackers Sounds like an oxymoron: if they were unskilled, they wouldn't be worthy of being called hackers? Or perhaps you were making a joke about rats.
- bink 4y agoI'll leave the judgement about who can and can't be called "hacker" to others. It wasn't something we really worried about.
- arthurcolle 4y agoI wonder if they are hiring though
- richardw 4y agoNice try, FBI
- klyrs 4y agoHere's hoping they undercut their employers by offering victims a reduced fee... or I guess if they were interested in ethics they could blow the whistle.
- munk-a 4y agoIt would be hilarious if the hacker hired by a ransomware group extorted the ransomware group by threatening to publicly release a master key. Probably a dumb idea because of the lead-pipe department but still hilariously ironic.
- vorpalhex 4y agoThis is why a lot of criminal enterprises don't uh, go with traditional severance packages and instead take the term literally. Your former employees are a liability legally and in business.
- tempodox 4y agoOr they could get swept up by newcomers taking advantage of the layoff spree. At a minimum they'd save training costs for their new employees.
- kjs3 4y agoSomewhere there's an ethically bankrupt entrepreneur thinking "how can I disrupt this industry?".
- RobotToaster 4y agoThrough the use of blockchain technology, our xtrtr™ federated no-code platform can create a more decentralised and equitable extortion industry.
- kjs3 4y agoProgrammed in rust.
- red-iron-pine 4y agoso is this getting logged in layoffs.fyi?
- ElfinTrousers 4y agoI know a lot of people who would like to see that. The FBI and IRS, for example.
- omgwtfbyobbq 4y agoI can see this. I was recently contacted by IP's abuse department about something on my network sending out malicious requests. It turned out to be an old WiFi router I had, which was fixed by an update. I'm guessing it was compromised a while back and was only recently used. The Fed reversing monetary policy has some interesting consequences.
- testTED 4y agoYou kept the router? Did you at least flash it?
- omgwtfbyobbq 4y agoYup. That's what the "fixed by an update" part referred to.
- testTED 4y agoThere's a difference between pressing "update" in a known-compromised device's webUI, and flashing it from the outside.
- omgwtfbyobbq 4y agoThe advisory stated affected devices could be update through the device UI. https://kb.netgear.com/000061982/Security-Advisory-for-Multiple-Vulnerabilities-on-Some-Routers-Mobile-Routers-Modems-Gateways-and-Extenders https://kb.netgear.com/000061982/Security-Advisory-for-Multi... But if it didn't, then that's another can of worms.
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- seanhunter 4y agoI wonder if the crime bosses send out an email saying they take full responsibility for overhiring during boom times.
- aaroninsf 4y agoYes, but written by ChatGPT.
- ushakov 4y agoJust like the regular layoff emails
- eloff 4y agoThat would be an improvement
- lewdev 4y agoI tried have it written like a "mafia boss" and "gangster" to "hackers" but ChatGPT did not like that. Prompt: Write a layoff letter to my penetration tester employees in a heavy Italian accent. Dear [Employee Name], It is with a heavy heart that I gotta tell ya that we gotta let you go. It's nothing personal, it's just business, capisce? I wanna say, youse guys have been great at what you do. You really know how to get into those systems and find all the weak spots. But, unfortunately, things ain't looking too good for our organization right now, and we gotta cut back on some expenses. I wanna let you know that we appreciate all the hard work you've done for us, and we're gonna make sure youse guys get a decent severance package. We also wanna help you out in finding new job opportunities, so if there's anything we can do to help, just let us know. Again, I wanna emphasize that it's nothing personal. Youse guys are some of the best in the business, but we gotta do what we gotta do to keep the organization running. Take care, and good luck with your future endeavors. Sincerely, [Your Name]
- thaumasiotes 4y agoThat looks like a native New York English accent, not an Italian accent.
- croo 4y agoI didn't know FAANG got a new name.
- imhoguy 4y agoclose to GAANG /s
- 1-6 4y agoPlot twist: Hacker groups were secretly funded by security firms.
- rossdavidh 4y agoMore like the other way around, I think.
- newsclues 4y agoSomewhere in the mix are intelligence agencies.
- alexnastase 4y agoWhen I first read the title I could have sworn it's a post from The Onion
- outside1234 4y ago7% of them?
- amrb 4y agoWell I feel foolish, saying being a white hat was not where the money is :P
- trentnix 4y agoBe careful with that severance package, boys and girls.
- ElfinTrousers 4y agoBet you they got better severance packages than in Big Tech.
- smegsicle 4y agobut is the nda worth it?
- ElfinTrousers 4y agoEh, at least you get a kiss with it.
- pixl97 4y agoI wonder if/how much this has to do with the situation Russia is in? A number of sanctions has made Russian money harder to move around, likely making it more difficult to pay said hackers. Couple that with crypto falling apart, the entire ransomeware thing is not near as profitable as it used to be. Then we have a large amount of cyber attacks focused on Ukraine that appear to be occurring at a military level. Its it possible the people that were busy spamming the world at one point are now caught up in this war and not working on external money making endevors?
- thricegreat 4y agoI also enjoy getting on the Internet and making stuff up.
- sophacles 4y agoWhich part do you think is made up? Everything I read in there tracks with things I've read and seen.
- yieldcrv 4y agoThere are plenty of crypto assets that hold their value and wont be frozen The ones remaining have withstood the heaviest stress test across all asset classes, increasing the confidence in them The price declines and high profile implosions are really just tip of the iceberg in the topic of “crypto” and largely a distraction
- sophacles 4y agoFair enough. Not all crypto is 100% scam. Some is still carrying value. Is it "making things up" to not know this - particularly in light of the widespread reporting and web commentary?
- yieldcrv 4y agoI think that person was being very reductive when they said "making things up", the person they replied to was extrapolating a lot of things based on a faulty understanding of the crypto space, hacking groups and Russia. Many people are not open to the concept of a working and legitimate aspect of the crypto world. Or "legitimate"/"use case" is something that people will play devil's advocate on forever ad nauseam, as opposed to learning or understanding why people are willing to keep building there (somebody will ask, name one legitimate thing, and then argue about why all the replies are not legitimate as opposed to how individuals are and could address various problems). So people get tired of talking to those kind of people.
- rossdavidh 4y agoDo they get outplacement help? Severance pay? I'm guessing the NDA is, uh, pretty strictly enforced...
- creaghpatr 4y agoImplicit non-disparagement clause
- RobotToaster 4y agoThey should form a union.
- hk1337 4y agoWFR’d or RIF’d depending on your employer.
- hummus_bae 4y ago[dead]
- dweinus 4y agoPhishing to deliver ransomware? In this economy?
- opisthenar84 4y agoWhat kind of severance package was offered?
- rishabhd 4y agoAs someone who does incident response for a living, the return to investment on offensive tactics is not so great now. The competition is fierce, organizations are slowly caving under regulatory pressure to improve infrastructure defenses and ultimately, crypto is not doing great right now.
- ShredKazoo 4y agoI always figured that ransomware was like a vaccine, provoking an immune response, with the net result of overall stronger cyber defenses
- CalChris 4y agoThe FA says "One hacker group reportedly let go of 45 call-center operators." No, call center operators are not hackers.
- theusus 4y agoThis thread is wild yo. Imagine earning your bread via hacking someone's Silicon. And then one day you are no more a thief. Hacker wondering if he had done moonlighting by doing consultancy.
- hulitu 4y ago> Hackers are reportedly getting laid off by organized crime groups Last i heard, NSA was hiring, not laying off. /s