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I find this very surprising. The first sentence of the article states that about 60% of men are single, and only about 30% of women. There's about equal men an
by nebukadnet 4y ago
I find this very surprising.
The first sentence of the article states that about 60% of men are single, and only about 30% of women. There's about equal men and women, so that would mean that 30% of women are dating each other, or are in relationships with multiple men? That's discounting men dating men. I find that surprising.
- tppiotrowski 4y agoThe article explains this. They are either dating each other or dating older men.
- b800h 4y agoThey didn't mention the fact that successful younger males are dating multiple women at once. That's another factor.
- mcphage 4y agoIs it? Are open relationships that statistically significant?
- b800h 4y agoI think we're talking about ambiguous relationships, not open ones.
- mcphage 4y agoSo situations where women think they're in a relationship, but the man does not (or not with them). Again, is this statistically significant? Are women's standards for what qualifies as a relationship low enough that they think they're in one with 1/2, 1/3, or even less, of a man's time?
- anovikov 4y agoNothing surprising, yes this is mostly about top 10% of men dating several women each. Inequality in action.
- mschuster91 4y agoThat's ridiculous. Poly relationships are a tiny minority and even there most stick it to two partners - everything above that just takes way too much time to juggle next to a full-time job.
- anovikov 4y agoConscious poly relationships are a tiny minority and will probably always remain so. But i mean situations when women don't know that they are not alone. Tinder does it to them. It makes easy to find and "get" the best men. But there's a catch... Plus, very frequently women get ahead of themselves imagining that they are in relationship while their men sees it as merely a sequence of gradually more and more effortless hookups.
- hgsgm 4y agoCasual dating is single. Those women are still single, except in the rare cases of bigamy.
- tokai 4y agoLiterally a /r9k/ incel talking point. Never backed up by anything at all.
- anovikov 4y agoI don't mean to say it in a negative sense. I'm a right-wing liberal. Inequality is the only thing that saves us for complete dominance of mediocrity. Also, it's sort of stupid to complain about because it's no one's policy or anything, just an objective fact. You can't un-invent Tinder.
- happytoexplain 4y agoYou think the disparity is more accounted for by the numeric difference between multiple-dating men and multiple-dating women, rather than by women dating men who are older than themselves?
- thedanbob 4y agoThose figures are for "young adults". (20s I think? The article isn't totally clear.) The article mentions further down that some of the extra women are dating older men.
- koshinae 4y agoThere is a phrase in there: "in their 20s", so I suppose it means under 30.
- v8xi 4y agoThe article states 60/30% of young people, so the correct interpretation is that older men are "taking" a large share of the young, single women / young women prefer dating older men.
- hisnameishank 4y agoI think this article is somewhat of a relief to myself. It always felt like the majority of women I talked to casually mentioned they are in a relationship before my interest further peaked. At least it's not just thinking it's a coincidence that the majority that I talk to are taken, it's statistical lol.
- nradov 4y agoWomen are not objects to be owned. Even if she's in a relationship she might be unhappy with it and open to other options. Just don't be creepy or aggressive about it. To use an analogy, hiring managers are allowed to offer you a job even if you already have a job. They're not obligated to wait until you're unemployed.
- jfowief 4y ago[dead]
- hgsgm 4y agoAnd men die young than women. That leaves a surplus of lonely old women who form a harem for the male survivors in the old folks homes.
- b800h 4y agoEntirely possible that older men are going into second long-term relationships with younger women after already having had a child or two.
- giardini 4y ago"There's a sucker born every minute." - attributed to P.T. Barnum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_...
- randomdata 4y agoCould be that younger women are in relationships with older men and that older women are more likely to be single.
- DebtDeflation 4y ago> so that would mean that 30% of women are dating each other, or are in relationships with multiple men If you read the article to the end, it specifically mentions the former and also strongly implies the latter.
- lostphilosopher 4y agoAnother possibility is that women are more likely to choose to self report their status as "in a relationship" vs. men. (Which would be an interesting finding on its own!) I'm not sure which source they pulled those figures in the first line from, but elsewhere it talks about PEW studies and the Survey Center on American Life which are presumably working from self reported survey data? "Married" is easier to track objectively than "single" vs. "in a relationship" which is more subjective. Is having been on three dates a "relationship?" Is it a relationship if you never talked about it with each other in those terms? If you're dating multiple people non-exclusively are you "in a relationship" or "single"? (I'm not asking; just speculating that two people might answer those questions differently.) The 60% / 30% figure doesn't pass the sniff test to me. Edit: Noticed the comment about this data focusing on "young" women and men and the possibility that more women are dating men outside that range than men are doing the same. That's also a good explanation. This was mentioned in the article too; I was just initially underestimating its significance.
- schrijver 4y agoThat’s a good point that the article doesn’t touch on! (and along with the other ones from the article, makes a lot more sense than the “10% of the men date all the women” meme I see repeated in this HN discussion).
- welshwelsh 4y ago60% of young men. Young men are more likely to be single because they are competing with older men.