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Idaho introduces legislation to criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines

51 points by alexiaya 4y ago

euroderf 4y ago
Does the Darwin award committee accept nominations for political entities ?
mrguyorama 4y ago
Ah yes, the party of personal responsibility and small government yet again telling me I cannot do something to protect myself from a danger or even control my own body, business, or home. I don't care what bullshit you can come up with about democrats, at least they don't scream "We want to stop the government from controlling you" and then nakedly do the exact opposite, and then still get voted for even more. Democrats are very open about their belief that accountable government can implement positive regulations. Republicans: Why the fuck do you let your politicians be so openly two-faced like this? They claim one thing and do the exact opposite, right in your face. Why do you encourage them do put restrictive policy in place if you believe in personal freedom?
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  >Why the fuck do you let your politicians be so openly two-faced like this? They claim one thing and do the exact opposite, right in your face. Why do you encourage them do put restrictive policy in place if you believe in personal freedom? How can you say this with a straight face when there's a story about NY Democratic politicians selling out the right to repair bill to corporate interests? Politicians say one thing and do the other as long as they think there will be no consequences and in the polarized world where live in that is often.
  - sharemywin 4y ago
    These are two totally different things. This story is about the priorities of the party shifting from 1. corporate corruption 2. giving lip service to issues that matter to people 3. implementing fringe conspiracies to 1. implementing fringe conspiracies 2. corporate corruption 3. giving lip service to issues that matter to people your point is about business as usual for the parties.
  - rexpop 4y ago
    We can't have constructive conversations with people who deflect criticism of one party with criticism of another. This "whataboutism" is intellectually dishonest, implying straw beliefs that haven't been professed. There can be two wrong parties, but it's childish to change the subject defensively.
  - rhaway84773 4y ago
    Yes. Compared to all those right to repair bills just coasting through Republican states. Oh, there are none. Edit: Basically your complaint is that Democrats deliver worse than ideal results because they are influenced by corporate money, which you claim is somehow worse than Republicans not even attempting to deliver results because they are influenced by corporate money so much more.
- peter_d_sherman 4y ago
  >"Ah yes, the party of personal responsibility and small government yet again telling me I cannot do something to protect myself from a danger or even control my own body, business, or home." Your previous comments on HN: "PayPal data breach notification (maine.gov)" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34530067 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34530067 >"mrguyorama: As a resident of the state in question, I'm curious as to why this comes from our state. Did paypal not have to report this anywhere else?" According to your previous comments on HN -- you do not live in Idaho. (If I have this wrong, then please correct me -- you have my most humble apology if this is wrong!) If you do not live in Idaho -- then there are no laws in your State which criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines. If there are no laws in your State which criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines -- then there is no limitation on your personal freedom with respect to being administered mRNA vaccines... In other words, you are completely free to adminster (or be administered by other people) as many mRNA (and non-mRNA!) vaccines to yourself as you wish, should you wish... So I don't understand exactly what your issue is, if you are indeed free -- and it would seem that you are... Perhaps you could help me to understand? ?
alexiaa 4y ago
Archive link for people in the EU: https://archive.today/2023.02.16-222817/https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/capitol-watch/idaho-lawmakers-introduce-legislation-to-criminalize-those-who-administer-covid-vaccines-legislature/277-2436a514-e7da-4b31-9762-f9be10300075 https://archive.today/2023.02.16-222817/https://www.ktvb.com...
Quequau 4y ago
Seems like everyday that goes by there's something going on in America that makes me believe they have lost their minds.
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  " But but but but it's the WOKES who are crazy" Meanwhile non of the 14 year old blue-haired tumbler users they seem to think make up all of the democratic party and represent the only opinions of progressives actually make any law changes, or get elected, or are even thought leaders!
  - mansion7 4y ago
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- KingLancelot 4y ago
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- blame-troi 4y ago
  We have. Long ago, sad to say.
- ElevenLathe 4y ago
  The non-native population largely lost our minds before we even got on the boat to come over. We're a nation of lunatics and have been since before independence.
stuckinhell 4y ago
The sooner America splits up into two or more countries the better I think. It's clear the cultural difference inside America are far beyond even different countries in Europe. I guess that should be expected given how large America is.
- msf1024 4y ago
  But where would you split it? Regardless of what the blue/red state maps show, it's really an urban/rural split.
  - stuckinhell 4y ago
    No idea, but market research shows people are heavily moving around right now due to political orientations. I can imagine the the southeast becoming completely red and the northeast becoming completely blue.
- deleted 4y ago
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- onlypositive 4y ago
  Most Americans agree on most things. Cultural differences across Europe are FAR greater than anything in the US. The problem in the US is extremists taking over the microphone.
  - sul_tasto 4y ago
    The problem as I see it is the politicians and media stoking the flames of any controversial issue they can for profit. This ‘issue’ is an excellent example.
  - psychphysic 4y ago
    Even England Scotland and Wales are separate countries. I suppose in theory the US already has a mechanism for managing this disagreement federal and state laws.
zoklet-enjoyer 4y ago
We're having a similarly crazy legislative session in North Dakota. It's very disappointing
tjpnz 4y ago
Does it stand any chance of passing?
- HybridCurve 4y ago
  Some legislation is used purely for political theater so conservative pundits have content which can be spun into disinformation or used to incite outrage to their voter base. Truthfully, both sides do this, but one is consistently more destructive in their approach than the other.
- jasone 4y ago
  As an Idaho resident, I dearly hope not. And I'd be really surprised if such legislation did pass. Toxic extreme-right rhetoric appeals to a nontrivial proportion of Idahoans, and some politicians are pandering to the fringe of society that wants to see everything burn. But my rough estimate is that only 20-25% of Idahoans think that way.
  - baremetal 4y ago
    As a fellow Idaho resident, I don't know many Idahoans that received the vaccine. But I don't know any that would want to prevent you from getting it, either. You should be free to do what you think is best for yourself, medically. And everyone I know thinks the same.
    - LinuxBender 4y ago
      You should be free to do what you think is best for yourself, medically. And everyone I know thinks the same. Your neighbor in Wyoming checking in. Those I know here would agree with you.
halfjoking 4y ago
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adammichaelc 4y ago
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ElfinTrousers 4y ago
If either of the sponsors has any idea what they're talking about, I'll eat my hat. They're just following the party line...you know, like Soviet Communists used to do.

51 points by alexiaya 4y ago

Does the Darwin award committee accept nominations for political entities ?

Ah yes, the party of personal responsibility and small government yet again telling me I cannot do something to protect myself from a danger or even control my own body, business, or home. I don't care what bullshit you can come up with about democrats, at least they don't scream "We want to stop the government from controlling you" and then nakedly do the exact opposite, and then still get voted for even more. Democrats are very open about their belief that accountable government can implement positive regulations. Republicans: Why the fuck do you let your politicians be so openly two-faced like this? They claim one thing and do the exact opposite, right in your face. Why do you encourage them do put restrictive policy in place if you believe in personal freedom?

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
>Why the fuck do you let your politicians be so openly two-faced like this? They claim one thing and do the exact opposite, right in your face. Why do you encourage them do put restrictive policy in place if you believe in personal freedom? How can you say this with a straight face when there's a story about NY Democratic politicians selling out the right to repair bill to corporate interests? Politicians say one thing and do the other as long as they think there will be no consequences and in the polarized world where live in that is often.
- sharemywin 4y ago
  These are two totally different things. This story is about the priorities of the party shifting from 1. corporate corruption 2. giving lip service to issues that matter to people 3. implementing fringe conspiracies to 1. implementing fringe conspiracies 2. corporate corruption 3. giving lip service to issues that matter to people your point is about business as usual for the parties.
- rexpop 4y ago
  We can't have constructive conversations with people who deflect criticism of one party with criticism of another. This "whataboutism" is intellectually dishonest, implying straw beliefs that haven't been professed. There can be two wrong parties, but it's childish to change the subject defensively.
- rhaway84773 4y ago
  Yes. Compared to all those right to repair bills just coasting through Republican states. Oh, there are none. Edit: Basically your complaint is that Democrats deliver worse than ideal results because they are influenced by corporate money, which you claim is somehow worse than Republicans not even attempting to deliver results because they are influenced by corporate money so much more.
peter_d_sherman 4y ago
>"Ah yes, the party of personal responsibility and small government yet again telling me I cannot do something to protect myself from a danger or even control my own body, business, or home." Your previous comments on HN: "PayPal data breach notification (maine.gov)" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34530067 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34530067 >"mrguyorama: As a resident of the state in question, I'm curious as to why this comes from our state. Did paypal not have to report this anywhere else?" According to your previous comments on HN -- you do not live in Idaho. (If I have this wrong, then please correct me -- you have my most humble apology if this is wrong!) If you do not live in Idaho -- then there are no laws in your State which criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines. If there are no laws in your State which criminalize those who administer mRNA vaccines -- then there is no limitation on your personal freedom with respect to being administered mRNA vaccines... In other words, you are completely free to adminster (or be administered by other people) as many mRNA (and non-mRNA!) vaccines to yourself as you wish, should you wish... So I don't understand exactly what your issue is, if you are indeed free -- and it would seem that you are... Perhaps you could help me to understand? ?

alexiaa 4y ago

Archive link for people in the EU: https://archive.today/2023.02.16-222817/https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/capitol-watch/idaho-lawmakers-introduce-legislation-to-criminalize-those-who-administer-covid-vaccines-legislature/277-2436a514-e7da-4b31-9762-f9be10300075 https://archive.today/2023.02.16-222817/https://www.ktvb.com...

Quequau 4y ago

Seems like everyday that goes by there's something going on in America that makes me believe they have lost their minds.

mrguyorama 4y ago
" But but but but it's the WOKES who are crazy" Meanwhile non of the 14 year old blue-haired tumbler users they seem to think make up all of the democratic party and represent the only opinions of progressives actually make any law changes, or get elected, or are even thought leaders!
- mansion7 4y ago
  [dead]
KingLancelot 4y ago
[dead]
blame-troi 4y ago
We have. Long ago, sad to say.
ElevenLathe 4y ago
The non-native population largely lost our minds before we even got on the boat to come over. We're a nation of lunatics and have been since before independence.

stuckinhell 4y ago

The sooner America splits up into two or more countries the better I think. It's clear the cultural difference inside America are far beyond even different countries in Europe. I guess that should be expected given how large America is.

msf1024 4y ago
But where would you split it? Regardless of what the blue/red state maps show, it's really an urban/rural split.
- stuckinhell 4y ago
  No idea, but market research shows people are heavily moving around right now due to political orientations. I can imagine the the southeast becoming completely red and the northeast becoming completely blue.
deleted 4y ago
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onlypositive 4y ago
Most Americans agree on most things. Cultural differences across Europe are FAR greater than anything in the US. The problem in the US is extremists taking over the microphone.
- sul_tasto 4y ago
  The problem as I see it is the politicians and media stoking the flames of any controversial issue they can for profit. This ‘issue’ is an excellent example.
- psychphysic 4y ago
  Even England Scotland and Wales are separate countries. I suppose in theory the US already has a mechanism for managing this disagreement federal and state laws.

zoklet-enjoyer 4y ago

We're having a similarly crazy legislative session in North Dakota. It's very disappointing

tjpnz 4y ago

Does it stand any chance of passing?

HybridCurve 4y ago
Some legislation is used purely for political theater so conservative pundits have content which can be spun into disinformation or used to incite outrage to their voter base. Truthfully, both sides do this, but one is consistently more destructive in their approach than the other.
jasone 4y ago
As an Idaho resident, I dearly hope not. And I'd be really surprised if such legislation did pass. Toxic extreme-right rhetoric appeals to a nontrivial proportion of Idahoans, and some politicians are pandering to the fringe of society that wants to see everything burn. But my rough estimate is that only 20-25% of Idahoans think that way.
- baremetal 4y ago
  As a fellow Idaho resident, I don't know many Idahoans that received the vaccine. But I don't know any that would want to prevent you from getting it, either. You should be free to do what you think is best for yourself, medically. And everyone I know thinks the same.
  - LinuxBender 4y ago
    You should be free to do what you think is best for yourself, medically. And everyone I know thinks the same. Your neighbor in Wyoming checking in. Those I know here would agree with you.

halfjoking 4y ago

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adammichaelc 4y ago

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ElfinTrousers 4y ago

If either of the sponsors has any idea what they're talking about, I'll eat my hat. They're just following the party line...you know, like Soviet Communists used to do.