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> Samsung hardware is top-notch, but the software bloat is ridiculous. Their self developed UIs are also garbage. My Samsung tv remote has no source button and

> Samsung hardware is top-notch, but the software bloat is ridiculous. Their self developed UIs are also garbage. My Samsung tv remote has no source button and source menu is hidden in home all the way to the left. If I make the mistake of clicking on an unrecognized device, it spends forever trying to detect it. I may just be complaining about smart tvs in general, but my old TCL was not this much of a pain to use.

yongjik 4y ago
Same. I had a TCL "smart" TV which was pretty straightforward to use, and then my teenage daughter decided to get tripped up on the cord. Ruined the TV, decided to buy one with sturdy feet that won't trip, ended up buying Samsung. Man, the UI is a clusterfuck. A lovecraftian horror show. At least the feet are stable.
- ocbyc 4y ago
  LG+ ROKU seems to be a good alternative to Samsung's Bloat.
  - propogandist 4y ago
    Roku is constantly phoning home and is the chattiest device with PiHole. Roku considers itself and ad company more than a hardware/software company, also.
- doublerabbit 4y ago
  Just wait until you try Sony. My mother required a television so I bought her one. Sony is a good brand right? WiFi drops out at the most random times. The router is touching differences away. The UI lags as it tries to connect to netflix to download all the latest "trends". So you have to wait many-frustrating seconds upon turning on the TV to actually use any UI feature. You can't even change the channel during that time. Firmware upgrades when it wants. BBC iPlayer has a dogtag that appears on any BBC channel "Press Green to watch from beginning" that intrudes any program witb no opt-out setting. Sigh.
  - mlyle 4y ago
    > The router is touching differences away. Probably not your problem, but too close can actually be much worse than a moderate distance away. Radios struggle with dynamic range, and overly strong signals can be as bad as weak ones.
    - MBCook 4y ago
      If it’s that close I’d just use a cable and cut WiFi out of the equation.
      - dachryn 4y ago
        it insane how this is often not the reflex of people. If its closer than 2m, attach a cable.
  - ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
    I've been in the TV business and still have friends there. Never buy an older person something other than a Panasonic. You won't get bothered by your mom/dad/grandpa compared to any other TV manufacturer. The amount of TVs we've replaced with Panasonics because kids bought their parents a cheap TV and left them to their own was just sad.
    - foxylad 4y ago
      My parents-in-law found LG to be much easier to control than Panasonic.
  - CamperBob2 4y ago
    Just get her an AppleTV or something similar. TV manufacturers are about as good at UI/UX as car manufacturers are.
    - philistine 4y ago
      Apple TV hardware + a television with solid, no-nonsense HDMI CEC support (like the Roku TV models) is the best experience nowadays. I don't understand how anybody on this site would consider using the underpowered mess in their TV.
- HyperSane 4y ago
  I never feel comfortable unless an LCD TV is securely connected to the surface it is resting on. I use nylon straps and wood screws.
burnte 4y ago
I don't use Samsung phones for this reason. The hardware is great but their UI is such total garbage I can't stand it.
- dachryn 4y ago
  I honestly don't like their hardware either. Well, the camera and battery that is. My huawei and iphone vastly outperform the samsungs I had. I grade Samsung on the same level as Sony Xperia: great phones, but one too many things that are failing to be acceptable (Had a Samsung s7, s20 and now an s22 from work, not by choice)
acomjean 4y ago
our samsung TV does this as well. You plug your computer into it and it takes like 15 seconds trying to figure out what it is. .Then you have to select manual, and PC. I thought after a while I was imagining things, but I pluged my laptop into our old "dumb" sony and it was showing to the screen in less than one second.
- tpxl 4y ago
  Oh, but it gets worse. Upon plugging a laptop into our TV, the image is displayed, then it overlays the 'detecting input' thing for about 5 seconds, then it switches back to the image.

yongjik 4y ago

Same. I had a TCL "smart" TV which was pretty straightforward to use, and then my teenage daughter decided to get tripped up on the cord. Ruined the TV, decided to buy one with sturdy feet that won't trip, ended up buying Samsung. Man, the UI is a clusterfuck. A lovecraftian horror show. At least the feet are stable.

ocbyc 4y ago
LG+ ROKU seems to be a good alternative to Samsung's Bloat.
- propogandist 4y ago
  Roku is constantly phoning home and is the chattiest device with PiHole. Roku considers itself and ad company more than a hardware/software company, also.
doublerabbit 4y ago
Just wait until you try Sony. My mother required a television so I bought her one. Sony is a good brand right? WiFi drops out at the most random times. The router is touching differences away. The UI lags as it tries to connect to netflix to download all the latest "trends". So you have to wait many-frustrating seconds upon turning on the TV to actually use any UI feature. You can't even change the channel during that time. Firmware upgrades when it wants. BBC iPlayer has a dogtag that appears on any BBC channel "Press Green to watch from beginning" that intrudes any program witb no opt-out setting. Sigh.
- mlyle 4y ago
  > The router is touching differences away. Probably not your problem, but too close can actually be much worse than a moderate distance away. Radios struggle with dynamic range, and overly strong signals can be as bad as weak ones.
  - MBCook 4y ago
    If it’s that close I’d just use a cable and cut WiFi out of the equation.
    - dachryn 4y ago
      it insane how this is often not the reflex of people. If its closer than 2m, attach a cable.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
  I've been in the TV business and still have friends there. Never buy an older person something other than a Panasonic. You won't get bothered by your mom/dad/grandpa compared to any other TV manufacturer. The amount of TVs we've replaced with Panasonics because kids bought their parents a cheap TV and left them to their own was just sad.
  - foxylad 4y ago
    My parents-in-law found LG to be much easier to control than Panasonic.
- CamperBob2 4y ago
  Just get her an AppleTV or something similar. TV manufacturers are about as good at UI/UX as car manufacturers are.
  - philistine 4y ago
    Apple TV hardware + a television with solid, no-nonsense HDMI CEC support (like the Roku TV models) is the best experience nowadays. I don't understand how anybody on this site would consider using the underpowered mess in their TV.
HyperSane 4y ago
I never feel comfortable unless an LCD TV is securely connected to the surface it is resting on. I use nylon straps and wood screws.

burnte 4y ago

I don't use Samsung phones for this reason. The hardware is great but their UI is such total garbage I can't stand it.

dachryn 4y ago
I honestly don't like their hardware either. Well, the camera and battery that is. My huawei and iphone vastly outperform the samsungs I had. I grade Samsung on the same level as Sony Xperia: great phones, but one too many things that are failing to be acceptable (Had a Samsung s7, s20 and now an s22 from work, not by choice)

acomjean 4y ago

our samsung TV does this as well. You plug your computer into it and it takes like 15 seconds trying to figure out what it is. .Then you have to select manual, and PC. I thought after a while I was imagining things, but I pluged my laptop into our old "dumb" sony and it was showing to the screen in less than one second.

tpxl 4y ago
Oh, but it gets worse. Upon plugging a laptop into our TV, the image is displayed, then it overlays the 'detecting input' thing for about 5 seconds, then it switches back to the image.