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Salesforce, but for Dating

• anarticle 4y ago
  I'm really surprised at how poorly received this is! I did something much simpler for tracking dates, a google calendar with a short biopic and some snips from conversation. At my peak, I had 18 dates in 21 days. For me, it was a way to keep names straight. After date seven in a row, you may struggle. I formalized dating a bit, since I was a long termer before and was new to online dating. (Didn't exist in previous relationship finding time.) This is probably try hard, but w/e I had fun! My pseudocode: - Dress up, show up, shut up. Collared shirt, clean jeans. Be on time. Ask person questions, and listen. The bar is incredibly low for men. - Same bar, same time. xyz @ 7pm. This means a bad one goes to MAYBE 8/830, and you're out. If you're an adult by yourself, this means you have time to run your life when 5 out of 7 days in a week are dates. You can still workout, make a food, clean your place. - Guy makes the plans, decisiveness puts you head and shoulders over other possibilities. Interest is everything. It's in the delivery: "I know a really great cocktail bar where we can chat more, xyz @ 7pm on wednesday sound good to you?" Don't waste their time, get to the meet! - Drinks over dinner every time. Mocktails are fine. Activity date is fine too, but remember you don't know each other. If it turns out to be a bust you are now stuck (looking at you dinner!). You can always say: "Hey I'm feeling kind of hungry how about you? I know xyz spot near here we can go for a bite and keep talking..." decisive decisive decisive, yet still asking what they think. Coffee in my area is perceived as you aren't interested, so don't bother. I have also heard reviews that coffee is not a real date, so you may be perceived as low interest. - Don't play day favorites, just queue em up. - No more than 1.5w in advance, if they're busy or hesitant just drop them from the queue, and see if they follow up later. Don't go nuts about this, people's interest is everything. Remember, the purpose of online dating is to MEET IN REAL LIFE, not message for weeks until someone CRACKS. (this is how I formalized it, if you find a new meme friend, idgaf what you do with your life :D ) My findings: - App signal to noise ratio is: hinge, bumble, tinder, ok cupid, plenty of fish. Hinge was the highest quality matches both in terms of chatting up, and general partner coolness(?). My guess is because the messaging in Hinge forces you to interact meaningfully . Bumble was good, most women I met said they didn't like it because it forced them to engage. Tinder was fine, got picked up a couple of times on that one. Didn't bother with the other two after week one, quality was terrible. - THE BAR IS INCREDIBLY LOW FOR MEN. If you are employed, and can speak to other people without being an asshole, you are ahead of the game. Don't believe me? Ask your next date what their worst experience is. I assure you it will be 10x worse than yours. Anecdote from my partner: guy: "oh you like dogs? let's go drink in a dog park!". He shows up already drunk, and then BLACKS OUT at the park. She ends up dumping him into a lyft and she goes home. 0/10. Same guy tries to match her 6m later. - Men think paying for apps is a scam? I paid for the top three, and kept my queue full as long as possible until I found someone I kept around for 3w, then deactivate. - Aggressively tune your profile. Less is probably more. Details are for the date. No negative things. This is not build-a-bear. You want your profile to INCLUDE, use your swipes to EXCLUDE. You choose who you go on a date with! This means you can exclude people that won't work for you. - Guys get very uptight about "the algorithm" and will swipe right on everything. Let it work for you, and swipe left on anyone you wouldn't meet up with. Remember, the point is to MEET IN REAL LIFE. - Dating can be expensive, but it doesn't have to be. You set the budget by where you go. Scale accordingly. You will mess this up once, and then not again. I had a a total over 60ish dates, three longer term partners (>1m), picked up maybe five times, was a boy toy for a couple people. Overall, fun adventure, happily paired up for 3y now as a result of online dating. Online dating is different things for different people, but those are my findings and how I approached it. This software sounds cool, I probably would have used it. :) Sorry for the info dump, but I love hearing stories and helping people with their online profile. I used to be a kind of lightning rod for single dudes at bars and help them sort their profile out while also making friends with them. Two of the four of them got married to people from online dating, one is in a long term still, so I count that as a massive success!
  • bradlys 4y ago
    While I appreciate the long write out. The bar isn’t low for men. The bar is high. Swiping data alone shows this, man. I’m paying $250+/session for a dating coach just for online dating because the bar is so high - even though I’ve done all the usual advice from dating advice places. At this point, I have to spend another $5k on a pro photographer following me around for a few days and taking photos/videos of me at various events/hobbies with friends/animals/etc because that’s the level it is for men who aren’t naturally photogenic/good looking. Same for having the coach actually write out the profile, write comments, etc. I can’t even do it because it requires someone who does this as their full time job in order for an average looking guy to be remotely successful. I wish just liking a person with an average profile that isn’t holding any dead fish was enough but it isn’t. Women want more. Not even joking. It’s bad for most men - you’re part of an exceptional few because you’re naturally good looking and won’t have to put in anywhere near the effort the rest of us do.
• kube-system 4y ago
  > Too many requests, please try again after an hour Wow, you even have it running on NA14?
• harshaw 4y ago
  This post is probably way past the front page. As a dude who had to do the dating scene in his 40s after a divorce - this would have been pretty cool. On the other hand, despite personally having a pretty concerted effort here it's not like my set of leads was... large. I ended up winning the internet dating game and am very happy. My somewhat sad memory of this time was lots of cold calls via OKCupid and working every lead I got. hard work.
• msie 4y ago
  If only I had a need for this!
• tus666 4y ago
  Sorry I cringed. Hoping this is a joke.
  • nickthegreek 4y ago
    Agreed. Do people actually have a good feeling when they hear "Salesforce". I wouldn't want my app associated with it at all.
  • lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
    What tipped me off is how similar the logos are. What confirmed it is the text at the bottom of the home page: > P.S. Marc Benioff, please don't sue us. Remember that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
  • tgv 4y ago
    Don't you have a pipeline with girls you're going to cold-call, and a dating life manager that breathes down your neck when you haven't taken at least 10 girls out this month?
    • actually_a_dog 4y ago
      I don't date girls. I only date women.
      • kbelder 4y ago
        Well, if you're actually a male dog, you would mean you only date...
      • whateveracct 4y ago
        hah I love this comment - when I hear mid-30s men calling women "girls" I always cringe. Even worse when they actually call mid-20s women "girls" since they've never dated a women in her 30s..
    • grantc 4y ago
      Can there be endless meetings about whether your issues are top or bottom of funnel?
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• prettyStandard 4y ago
  I was thinking about something similar, but less cringy. More like: hey you haven't messaged your friend in 6 months, maybe you should ask them how they are doing. A priority queue but to help keep friendships alive.
  • itsthejb 4y ago
    https://github.com/monicahq/monica https://github.com/monicahq/monica
  • umeshunni 4y ago
    A personal CRM
  • rsstack 4y ago
    Not 100% what you describe, but functionally the same: https://github.com/monicahq/monica https://github.com/monicahq/monica
    • scrollaway 4y ago
      Monica is an excellent "Personal CRM" as people are describing. It strives to achieve exactly the goals GP describes. Personally, I would just like to see a contacts app that doesn't suck, and actually supports having both "companies" AND "people" as contact without treating them exactly the same. If I want to call some hotel or something, why does it have to be "First name: Holiday Inn" in order to even show up correctly...
      • count 4y ago
        MacOS/iOS Contacts supports this, for what it's worth. You can enter a 'Company Name' and leave fname/lname blank, and it'll give it a different default icon, as well as show it as the company name in lists/sorts.
        • zvr 4y ago
          The same in Android Contacts and GMail Contacts.
• partiallypro 4y ago
  Do you have to hire engineers for $500k+ to get it to work, in the spirit of Salesforce?
  • lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
    I imagine that would depend largely upon how much data you needed to transfer to the new system.
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• ZephyrOhm 4y ago
  P.S. Marc Benioff, please don't sue us. Remember that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
  • kypro 4y ago
    Thing is it has nothing to do with how some exec feel about the product. Corporations don't like stuff like because they don't want to deal with clients who don't understand the joke being playing with their brand. OP isn't going to be the one who has to do damage control when this blows up and some percentage of people start to to believe it's actual Salesforce behind this product.
• TechBro8615 4y ago
  Designed to be deleted, just like Salesforce
• ddmma 4y ago
  Should target the sex selling market. Business model guaranteed.
  • fknorangesite 4y ago
    You'll have to repeal FOSTA-SESTA first. And you'll even save some lives as a nice side effect.
• PanosJee 4y ago
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  • dang 4y ago
    If you continue to post attacks like this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33879609 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33879609, were going to have to ban you. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
• ugh123 4y ago
  Might be a good opportunity here to integrate events, restaurant bookings, and other paid "experiences" for some upside. Does this integrate directly with the dating services/apps themselves? Seems like a lot of work to plumb in and keep up-to-date the status and latest information on each profile. Also, if this is a legit service you should be extremely careful how you store all this data. Exposing a bunch of dating profile data via a security breach will land you into hotter water than anything Marc Benioff could throw at you :)
  • stronglikedan 4y ago
    When I was dating, I kept track of all this manually, in a notes app. I wouldn't mind inputting the same data here, manually, since this has the added benefit of organizing it for me in a way I couldn't do with mere notes.
  • pcthrowaway 4y ago
    Would also be a good to manage a date funnel. Then for dates in the funnel who told you things like "too busy", "not ready for dating" etc. you could schedule automated messages for things like reminding them to circle back when they're ready, checking if they're available to get on a call to show them new features you've added (as a person), etc.
    • MikeTheGreat 4y ago
      I assume this is humor, since a lot of people will use these responses to say "No" without having to come out an say it (the "Nonconfrontational No", if you will - "I don't want to date you" invites a direct conflict, but "too busy" can't really be argued with). So, building on your humor, I'd like to suggest a feature/service we can sell to the victcoughother person. When they respond with "too busy" they can also set a flag in the system indicating whether they'd actually like to _not_ hear from the person operating the funnel. We get paid, the vict^H^H^H^Hdate doesn't get hassled in the future, and the person running the dating funnel is none the wiser because our software never notifies them again. I think I'm ready for an MBA now :)
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• calt 4y ago
  The little black book’s next iteration. It really is inevitable.
• kimoz 4y ago
  Will help me in my plate spinning process ;)
• someweirdperson 4y ago
  That "force" in the name implies that it is a tool for a group of persons working together on all those dates?
  • marcosdumay 4y ago
    Sure. That's way better than the alternative.
• verst 4y ago
  People have been shamed for using spreadsheets to track their dates, this is even worse.
• dpierce9 4y ago
  Concept and parallel aside, you might not want the word ‘force’ in the name of your dating app. Just a thought.
  • scrumper 4y ago
    Totally agree. Call it "Funnel". Which is gross and puerile on one level but not, like, violent.
• random3 4y ago
  Can someone chime in why this hasn't worked in the past? It seems a personal/portable CRM could be highly useful. The second aspect is the vertical aspect (professional or "personal") One thing I keep hearing from people that have sold companies, exited etc. is that they are having a hard time operating within their networks without the CRM.
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  • nlh 4y ago
    Yes. Having been in this space for a bit, there are a few reasons why it hasn't worked (yet): 1. The problem of deduplicating contacts is tough (but solvable). If you don't solve it well, then the utility of personal CRM goes wayyyyy down and you're getting notifications about the same people with different email / WhatsApp / Instagram addresses and that gets annoying. 2. People haven't shown a big willingness to pay very much for this (so far), despite everyone saying they want it. So we're left with the open source solutions that don't solve the problems very well. 3. People are SUPER concerned about privacy. See a comment above about someone who wants the system to automatically scan email, etc. and extract contacts, but that it must be 100% local and privacy-centric. You can't have both of those - to intelligently extract contacts without duplicates (and figure out that @mybestie on Instagram == mybestie@gmail.com == my.c.bestie@corporate.com) you need a big database of who's who to match against. Everything is solvable I think - we're not talking cold fusion here. But it's tougher than it might seem on the surface.
    • BeefySwain 4y ago
      Could you expand on what options exist currently? You say you are in the space, does that mean you have been keeping an eye on it, that you are working on something, or ?
      • nlh 4y ago
        I'm in the space in that I co-founded a company called Connect The Dots (ctd.ai) that certainly has the potential to solve this problem, but we're not focused on the PRM space right now (see point above re: unwillingness to pay). Perhaps down the road. The two commercial tools that come to mind are: * Dex (https://getdex.com/ https://getdex.com/) * Clay (https://clay.earth/ https://clay.earth/) Although neither have really nailed it (yet). Clay is more like a Superhuman-for-Contacts, whereas Dex is really going hard at being a true PRM. The big open source tool out there is: * Monica (https://www.monicahq.com/ https://www.monicahq.com/)
• NickC25 4y ago
  Dunno if this was intended as a joke, but I find the whole presentation of the site to be hilarious. Well done! As others have said, if you were able to find if Hinge, Bumble, Tinder, Grindr, etc... have open APIs that you could connect to your app? Same goes for things like Eventbrite or Meetup. "I met so-and-so through (dating app) on (date/time) and we hit it off well. We then met up again via (event app) and continued meeting up regularly, and I was able to keep notes about so-and-so on the app - their favorite bars, foods, music, etc... as they revealed it to me, and the app was able to provide me with info as to when I was last in touch with them, when there's availability at their favorite restaurant, a music act at their favorite bar, etc..." I'd love to have an app like that in my life.
  • lordfrito 4y ago
    As much as I love this idea, part of me read this and thought "Great, one more reason for women who aren't interested in me to feign even more interest, because big event xyz is coming up and it's 'revealed' to them I can afford it so it's 'revealed' to me they want to go." SMH
• ssalka 4y ago
  Add a ChatGPT integration to suggest openers and you've got yourself a killer app /s
• mmaunder 4y ago
  Lol! Imagine a date with someone who’s hobby is dating.
  • scrumper 4y ago
    I laughed when I read this but then I thought more and... wouldn't that be fun? Like, if it's their hobby and they're good at it, why would the date be bad? Gardeners like their plants to grow big and healthy. Fishkeepers obsess over the health of their tanks. Musicians want to play more challenging music with better bandmates for bigger audiences on higher profile stages. So if you were on the receiving end of a date orchestrated by a dating hobbyist, it'd be fun, probably unusual, definitely well organized. There are worse things to experience while dating. And, just maybe, you make a connection and form a relationship. But even the base case isn't _bad_ per se.
    • tennisflyi 4y ago
      Lol No. It'd be min/maxed to fuck and then dump. How naive are you. > dating hobbyist Also, your use of hobbyist is so close to being on par (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hobbyist https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hobbyist).
      • scrumper 4y ago
        Gah, I'm glad I don't live in your head. I have never heard that definition of "hobbyist" before. I don't see how it's even remotely related to what I wrote. But whatever. Get some rest, maybe tomorrow will be a better day for you.
        • tennisflyi 4y ago
          It's a "little black book" on steroids...
• nick0garvey 4y ago
  Dating has a large emotional aspect. Using heavyweight management software for this kind of thing is ridiculous. If you need CRM to remind yourself of the emotional impact you had on a date, then some part of this process has gone horribly wrong.
  • that_guy_iain 4y ago
    Like you should know by the end of the date if you want another one or not.
  • t-writescode 4y ago
    Honestly, this sounds like the gulf between men’s experience dating and women’s, and neurotypical vs neurodivergent. Some ND people like helpers like this; and, women get so many suitors that a system to help them may be actually beneficial. Also, journaling is a powerful tool.
• seandoe 4y ago
  Met her on Polk street did ya.
• conductr 4y ago
  I clicked the Signup button thinking surely it’s a joke and they would have some witty page > Too many requests, please try again after an hour I’m really out of touch
  • usbfingers 4y ago
    How do you know that's not a part of the joke?
    • conductr 4y ago
      Good point, I don't. But sure was a missed opportunity if true :)
• robofanatic 4y ago
  Cool! wonder if it is created by 1 of the 8,000 ex-salesforce.
• emrah 4y ago
  Wow, managing one's dating life with a crm app has got to be the most distopian thing I've seen in a while. I probably need to point out that I'm not dissing the app. If it succeeds, the creators are obviously filling a need in the market, but confirmation of such a need would indicate dating as I define it is horribly broken
  • InitialLastName 4y ago
    > dating as I define it is horribly broken Socializing as a whole is broken, triggered by the disappearance of third places, the dissolution of communities at the altar of the nuclear dual-income family, live-at-work jobs and "hustle culture" (Veblen entrepreneurship), and the unlimited streaming doom-scroll. With nowhere to go but work and home, good luck finding anyone to date or befriend via a nonexistent organic social network.
    • emrah 4y ago
      Very true! While what you are saying is very true, dating so many people at once, plus having dated so many in the past that you need an app to keep track of them all is a whole other level of broken
      • InitialLastName 4y ago
        The issue is that whereas in the past you could use "knowing somebody as an acquaintance and/or by association with an acquaintance" as the first stage of your "should I date somebody" funnel, you now get "here's a list of all the people in your who have signed up for a dating service, the marketing blurb they wrote about themselves, and some broad demographic filters; Have at it" as your initial filter.
      • fleddr 4y ago
        Recently an article described an extreme case, a woman in her thirties wasting 10 years "swiping" and dating "at scale". She'd check over a 100 profiles every single day for 10 years straight without even an attempt at forming a relationship. Pure addiction, like a slot machine. The original purpose all but forgotten.
• SuperNinKenDo 4y ago
  Pretty sure this is meant as a joke, but dating has become so twisted now that I'm not actually 100% sure. Which makes this perfect satire.
  • MattGaiser 4y ago
    I have had a few people I know go on piles of dates, so I could see someone having a use for it if they are rapidly iterating through individuals.
    • miguelazo 4y ago
      "rapidly iterating through individuals" What a dystopian nightmare. So glad I missed out on this era of dating.
      • MattGaiser 4y ago
        In a world of increased diversity and expectations (you can't assume the 2.5 kids in the suburbs of your local city anymore or that marriage is even a goal) of what a relationship looks like, I am not sure of the alternative. I am happy that I am happy single though, as it does sound exhausting.
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  • humanistbot 4y ago
    Poe's law: any sufficiently advanced parody is indistinguishable from sincerity
  • throwaway29812 4y ago
    HBO's Silicon Valley was ok, but didn't go nearly far enough on the absurdity. I promise you this is real.
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• trekkie1024 4y ago
  This reminds me of the main character in Along Came Polly who puts his new girlfriend and ex-wife into a Risk Assessment tool to decide who he should stay with :D. Naturally, it doesn’t go well once the girlfriend discovers it!
• Darioros 4y ago
  Most people here don't need a software to manahe their 1 date per year
• mosselman 4y ago
  Is it the 1st of April already? Is there AI-powered communication as well? The profiles can let AI communicate and receive a message when GPT-3 has determined that an actual date should occur.
• personjerry 4y ago
  Isn't this just a spreadsheet? You could probably build and deploy the entire thing in a day in Notion
  • pgwhalen 4y ago
    Aren’t most apps just spreadsheets?
  • layer8 4y ago
    That wouldn’t scale though. ;)
• aqme28 4y ago
  I’ve been very actively dating and single for ages now. This is unequivocally a good idea if executed well. Is there a “notes” section so I can jot down details from dates to remember? That part is currently occupying my phone’s notes app.
  • tennisflyi 4y ago
    Plethora of dates but can't add an "other" section in the contact in the contacts app. Of course.
    • aqme28 4y ago
      Of which contacts app? Instagram doesn't have that feature, for example.
      • tennisflyi 4y ago
        The default on that is always there regardless of OS.
        • aqme28 4y ago
          There's no notes field for contacts on the Instagram app.
• monkeynotes 4y ago
  I hate modern life.
• kareemm 4y ago
  A good left-brained friend of mine was dating heavily in the late 2000s as he was in "wife finding mode". He had a spreadsheet -- called girls.xls -- where he kept track of important details about each woman he went on a date with. We were sitting around musing about how hard it must be to keep track of the key details given all the dates he was going on, and he let drop that he had a spreadsheet. He never showed it to anybody and it didn't sound creepy - it was genuinely a tool he used in good faith given the volume of info he was trying to keep track of. And, he ended up marrying #42.
  • lr4444lr 4y ago
    Of course he did.
  • phowat 4y ago
    So that's why the answer is 42 !
    • phoenixreader 4y ago
      Even better, in the original novel, the mice's guess for the ultimate question of life, universe, and everything is "how many roads must a man walk down?"
  • breck 4y ago
    After the divorce he discovered a bug in his VLOOKUP.
    • wrldos 4y ago
      Narcissist flag was missing in my original dataset.
  • dvt 4y ago
    I don't really consider myself left-brained, but I've always had a hard time remembering names. Partially because I'm not great at empathizing with folks I just meet, and partially because I genuinely don't care that much. Around college, I discovered this is absolutely not a great trait to have (incidentally, also most applicable when meeting women), so I started a Names file in my phone. I have hundreds of names in there now in the format "First Name - small salient description." People are amazed at how great I am at remembering names and details. It's become almost a super-power, it's weird how writing things down can completely change how people perceive you. It's really cool to scroll through the names and see people I met years ago: the cute barista that moved away right after COVID, an old neighbor's boyfriend, a coworker's dog (I extended the list to also include pets). Brings back good memories and often makes me smile.
• swyx 4y ago
  the video demo seems to use "archived" for old dates, but there's a missed opportunity here to mark them CLOSED/LOST
  • Ultimatt 4y ago
    also need STALE and STILL-WARM
    • scrumper 4y ago
      Smaller market (hopefully), but then it'd serve as CRM for serial cannibals.
• ablatt89 4y ago
  Probably useful for straight girls more than guys tbh: COUNT(ROWS(person.gender == Male and person.orientation == Straight)) == 0
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• godelmachine 4y ago
  What would be the tagline? "Forcible dating"? You 2, date right now!
• crtified 4y ago
  I'm not sure if a database exists that's robust enough to handle the massive, massive quantity of dates that my life entails. /extreme sarcasm (or is that a DIVIDE_BY_ZERO error?, haha) If you need something like this, then it's probably safe to say that dating is not your weak point. But, just as every multi-millionaire probably has an accountant, because they have more wealth than they can easily manage, so too must the dating conquistadors suffer, I guess.
• sunjester 4y ago
  Ridiculous.
• pmarreck 4y ago
  Amused, impressed and terrified, all at once.
• Willish42 4y ago
  Still not entirely certain this isn't just a really impressive parody, but for my sanity I am hoping it is. I think this says a lot about the "attention economy" way all the various dating and social apps take up your time to use them, and how we've digitized the process so much that people unironically see the appeal of a CRM system for managing contacts. Classic case of "new tech to solve the problems of all the other tech", where the other tech is actually the source of the problem, and probably shouldn't be relied on in this way.
  • dinkleberg 4y ago
    This has got to be a parody, right? I really hope it is!
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  • ericmcer 4y ago
    I am sure it is not a parody. I have witnessed co-workers getting professional photographs and using spreadsheets to track dates/matches, all to carefully optimize their dating app success. It reminds me of the early 2000s "pick up artist" stuff, I had a few friends who read the books and would actively hit on women anytime we went out. It was horrible haha. As for the maker of this app, if it fills a need and gets widely adopted who knows?
    • dsfyu404ed 4y ago
      >It reminds me of the early 2000s "pick up artist" stuff, I had a few friends who read the books and would actively hit on women anytime we went out. It was horrible haha. In the early 2000s only "professionals" used CAD. Now (almost) everyone with a 3d printer or a shed they want to build uses CAD. It's trickled down. The pickup artists are on the bleeding edge of the "craft" if you can call it that. It shouldn't be surprising that the stuff they do (or at least the stuff that works) filters down.
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• avaldez_ 4y ago
  This is the 21st century version of the catalogue aria in Don Giovanni https://youtu.be/qgC3GGxF1E0 https://youtu.be/qgC3GGxF1E0
• baron816 4y ago
  > I met her on Polk Street. We’ve been on a few dates so far. She seems nice! That’s probably the extent of what 90% of guys would say about any woman they’re dating.
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• mensetmanusman 4y ago
  Also, use stable diffusion to generate possible family life outcome images such as your future children around a fireplace.
• dusted 4y ago
  This strikes me as super creepy.. But I could see the use-case for stuff like dating-sims where you're kinda supposed to be the creep?
• jarek83 4y ago
  SalesForce is business - leaking business data is not that problematic. This, is about storing extremely delicate information about people. It better has top notch protection against data breach massive fines will be coming soon.
  • endisneigh 4y ago
    is this supposed to be sarcastic? it's exactly the opposite.
• technick 4y ago
  Back in my day we used notes in contact cards!
• technick 4y ago
  Back in my day we used the notes field on contact cards or in outlook.
• szundi 4y ago
  Only problem with this is you either has nothing to fill in, or just when it would start to matter the dates you are forgetting about are not really the ones who worth it. I also like the "probability" field.
• fabmilo 4y ago
  The problem with dating is that we enforce a 1:1 relationship while nature encourages 1:N. Am I the only one seeing this? or we shouldn't talk about it to not risk getting canceled?
• dietsprite 4y ago
  In before the cease and desist from Salesforce
• pkghost 4y ago
  The copy in the example entry is telling: "I met her on Polk street." If you don't know SF well, Polk street is one of two frat boy rows.
• jaqalopes 4y ago
  A lot of dunking going on in here, and fairly so, if nothing else because there is no good business model for an app like this unless they build it into dating apps (who's going to manually enter data from Tinder into this thing?). But the dunking seems to overlook the genuine problems with modern dating that didn't exist in the past. I find that it's very easy to mindlessly swipe a thousand people on an app and suddenly end up with more matches than I have the energy and attention span to process. If there was an easy way to turn this "inbox" (which is really just one step above my Gmail spam folder) into an actionable database, that could have real value in a world where dating happens stochastically through apps. Separately, it isn't weird at all to keep some sort of track of your dating life. Past generations had the "little black book," basically a romantic rolodex. I've never used one but who's to say I couldn't benefit from a digital version that lives in my phone? Most of all, a commenter here that is since deleted said something I think is apt: "I think the number one problem with online dating is not managing all the people. It's forcing yourself to keep the number of active pursuits low enough to manage. If you don't kind of commit to seeing if someone is going to pan out, then they won't." This is of course the actual solution to the problem I experience with modern dating. The only downside is that, unlike downloading an app, it requires that I change how I think and behave.
  • awinter-py 4y ago
    different co's approach to the integration problem was via 'data grab by keyboard' https://www.thekeys.ai/product https://www.thekeys.ai/product not sure about bidirectional data flow though -- maybe you can do that via accessibility interfaces? Also possible that OSes will offer standard chat UX in the future, making it simpler to hook plugins into conversations -- ios already does this to some extent with imessage plugins, but 'tinder for imessage' is the opposite of 'imessage for tinder' so this is most useless bc of lock-in
    • robertn702 4y ago
      This is hilarious. I can imagine the person on the other side using the same app and the conversation just being the two AI talking to each other.
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• Mongoose 4y ago
  The conference has to be called Dreamyforce
• insane_dreamer 4y ago
  Interesting start, but missing the "powered by AI" element that analyses each date and computes compatibility and chances of things moving to the next level, suggests next step, auto-generates your text/voice script, etc. (Also, tried to sign up by calling support but got an endlessly looping `We are experiencing higher than usual call volumes, one of our dating expert associates will be with you "shortly" (but remember that your call _is_ important to us)`
• dannyphantom 4y ago
  Neat, this isn't the first time I've seen something like this come up so it essentially validates the use-case for them. I remember seeing a post on Reddit[1] about ~4 years ago made by the same person who made this[2] post on HN about a year ago. [1] Does anyone else use salesforce as PRM (Personal Relationship Management) System? https://archive.ph/3mB1U https://archive.ph/3mB1U [2] Show HN: Nat.app, personal CRM that knows who you're losing touch with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30836418 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30836418
• dougdonohoe 4y ago
  I'm happily married for nearly 22 years and thankful more than ever I don't have to date in today's environment. This sounds awful. Like dystopianly awful.
• efitz 4y ago
  Reminds me of the scene with Steve Gutenberg and Rosanna Arquette from Amazon Women on the Moon: https://youtu.be/HufRCqkURQ8 https://youtu.be/HufRCqkURQ8
• gourabmi 4y ago
  This needs a way to migrate master data and touch points info from a Google Sheet.
• EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
  Programmers still trying to figure out dating? Give up already)
• ChicagoBoy11 4y ago
  I fortunately found a life partner before dating apps took the foothold they have now, but from speaking with younger relatives and friends, I think virtually all of them (at least the male ones) could only dream of ever even being able to use something like this. It seems to me the far more common experience is for, at any given time, their number of active prospects through those apps to be on the order of 0. Or are all my friends/family just ugly?
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  • all2 4y ago
    > Or are all my friends/family just ugly? No. They're all probably pretty good looking. The problem with the apps is the selection bias exhibited by males and females. If you look at the selection stats for men, you'll see they swipe right for about 80% of women. If you look at the selection stats for women, you'll see they swipe right for about 0.5% of men. I've no idea why this is the case, but the results have held out over a number releases both private and public.
• tanbog5 4y ago
  Is there something wrong with me that I have never dated enough that I needed a CRM to manage my experiences...
• tonymet 4y ago
  I recommend keeping track of your encounters with friends in your notebook or notes app. After you hang out with them write down updates on their family (their spouse's & kids' names, are they starting school, playing sports?), their health updates, ventures , hobbies– anything worth remembering. Remember that person you met that was so good at remembering everything about you? most likely they are just good at journaling.
• drunkenmagician 4y ago
  Is it April 1st already?