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https://deadbird.singlepane.io https://deadbird.singlepane.io shows the API up but a trace of iOS Twitterific, Tweetbot, and Birdie shows an EoF response when a

by iFred 4y ago

https://deadbird.singlepane.io https://deadbird.singlepane.io shows the API up but a trace of iOS Twitterific, Tweetbot, and Birdie shows an EoF response when api.twitter.com is called. I’d wager a backend issue over a policy change as a 403/401 isn’t returned.

minimaxir 4y ago
The hard part for Twitter is figuring out who's left that can fix it.
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  I disagree, the day he took over twitter people were saying "it wont be up this weekend" "it will be down in a week" "it will be offline in 2 weeks"... yet the reality is, its up and running well. The system is running as good as before. The only thing I've noticed is theres more ad's than usual. ---- Edit: Currently there isn't any outage of Twitter as far as anyone knows. It looks like 3rd party apps have been kicked to the curb. A ~16hr regional outage in AU/NZ is not indicitive of anything. In 2021 Facebook had a global ~7hr outage. Since Musk took over we haven't had all the downtime and disruption everyone kept claiming we would have. Big companies haven outages too, but so far the death of Twitter isn't in sight. Also: I hate Musk since his comments on Ukraine and Taiwan. So don't take my comments as trying to stick up with Musk. I'm not, I hope he loses all his money and becomes broke.
  - KyeRussell 4y ago
    If you’re going to argue against what “people” say, you’re always going to look like you’re the smart one and the person you’re disagreeing with is the stupid one.
  - notimetorelax 4y ago
    Consider the quality of engineer of the departed team that allowed Twitter to run without incidents for so long. Also, change is the most frequent cause of incidents, as no one was pushing new changes there were fewer chances of an incident.
    - vntok 4y ago
      Surely you're writing this in jest? https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jul/14/twitter-experiences-longest-global-outage-in-years https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jul/14/twitter-e...
      - pcdoyle 4y ago
        Reading that article, I am actually impressed that after that 45-minute outage in 2022, the next major outage was all the way back in 2016. I would say that is actually quite an endorsement for the quality of engineers they had.
  - mikkom 4y ago
    It's not like the employees are some gnomes running the system by pulling levers so it is not surprising that rhe system seems to be running ok. The problem arises at the point when there are bugs or other incidents and there is nobody who can fix them.
  - input_sh 4y ago
    Australia and NZ experienced a 16h outage last week. Was there someone to fix it eventually? Sure. Is 16h of downtime acceptable for a $44b business? I'm going with no. https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2023/01/twitter-down-australia/ https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2023/01/twitter-down-australia/
    - snvzz 4y ago
      They've likely learned a lot from that incident already. No, Twitter isn't gonna "blow up" overnight. That's nonsense.
      - fortyseven 4y ago
        [flagged]
      - jmcgough 4y ago
        If they hadn't purged the entire staff they wouldn't need to relearn the same lessons
      - nitwit005 4y ago
        > No, Twitter isn't gonna "blow up" overnight. That's nonsense. It's also not something any of the parent comments claimed.
    - recuter 4y ago
      I take it no such outages occurred in the prior history of twitter?
      - input_sh 4y ago
        16h is an awful lot for a social media site, even if region-specific. Single digit number of hours happen from time to time, but double digits are not really a thing anymore. Maybe in early days of social media, not in the past decade.
        recuter 4y ago
  - FranzFerdiNaN 4y ago
    It’s running well because the old guard built it so well. Musk threw them all out, so it will slowly but surely degrade. There was a reason Twitter had such a large workforce.
    - ipaddr 4y ago
      Is this the same twitter who almost died trying to scale when they started? They have been in worse spots. They will be fine and much of the old guard still works there.
    - drstewart 4y ago
      So under what conditions would you consider a company overstaffed?
      - Lutger 4y ago
        I would say you are overstaffed if A) you can't afford them and / or B) you've grown so fast, you don't know how to make use of the staff you have. Perhaps there is a C) which is a variant of B) the business model you are running only requires so much staff and you hit a ceiling in growth.
        kohlerm 4y ago
        I would not claim to have enough information about twitter being overstaffed? They might have a lot of technical debt, which can cause the need for more people to run it. But that is not "overstaffing".
        hnbad 4y ago
        The question is also how overstaffing is measured. If adding another person reduces the average productivity, you might define that as the cut-off due to the declining ROI for every other person added. But you probably also want some level of redundancy (aka reducing the bus factor) in order to account for the ongoing global health situation and general churn. Of course repeated waves of mass layoffs, demanding a pledge of allegiance to the company and revocation of all employee privileges at the threat of being fired and publicly throwing your employees repeatedly under the bus are also ways to reduce churn, so the bar for "overstaffing" might have actually lowered.
  - lexandstuff 4y ago
    This comment feels a bit out of place on a post about part of Twitter being down.
    - philliphaydon 4y ago
      Currently it looks like 3rd party apps have been cut off, not the Twitter or the API being down. So I don't consider it out of place.
  - Scharkenberg 4y ago
    He haphazardly ordered turning off "bloated" microservices, including the one responsible for sending auth codes via SMS for 2FA... Learning through mistakes is a thing particularly for newbies, but a CEO should absolutely have a clue about not micromanaging, especially in areas he practically doesn't understand and after firing most people who do.
  - suction 4y ago
    [dead]
  - susrev 4y ago
    I'm unsure if it is running as good as before. I have noticed more issues over the past week than I ever have using Twit. Particularly, a nasty bug that keeps the timeline refreshing while scrolling and is constantly moving content around on the screen. Curious if anyone else has run into something similar.
  - hbarka 4y ago
    If you buy a house and move into it does it suddenly break apart? If not, does the new owner get credit for it not breaking apart? It’s working _in spite of_ the new owner, not because of.
  - omnibrain 4y ago
    > its up and running well I would from personal experience disagree on the "well" part. I'm suddenly following accounts I recently unfollowed again. Previously blocked accounts show up. The search doesn't find stuff it used to find anymore - posts that are definitely not deleted because I can usually find them via other references.
    - pcdoyle 4y ago
      I have noticed that the explore page, and my timeline are way staler than they used to be. Tweets I have seen or even interacted with keep popping to the top all day, and trends on the explore page can be there for days at a time. It can take hours for major world events don't show up on the explore page for me sometimes.
  - rvz 4y ago
    Really don't know why this is downvoted. We had relentless articles like this [0] expecting the complete and total shutdown of Twitter, globally. That never happened and everyone knows that it was pure hysteria. > Since Musk took over we haven't had all the downtime and disruption everyone kept claiming we would have. Big companies haven outages too, but so far the death of Twitter isn't in sight. So because [0] did not happen most of the critics are setting a new standard for Twitter uptime to be 1000% globally 24/7, absolutely zero outages of any kind and never down for one person. If one outage somewhere happens, it is immediately the end of the world. It wasn't the end of the world when Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat or TikTok had worldwide outages, but 1 regional outage on Twitter and it is somehow the end of times? Please. The fact is, You are getting downvoted because Twitter is still up and running and many of the replies here cannot stand that predictions like this [0] did not come true and will point at any intermittent issue to show the 'Twitter is dying' narrative. The death of Twitter has been greatly exaggerated. If you really wanted it to die, just ignore it. Simple. [0] https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/08/1062886/heres-how-a-twitter-engineer-says-it-will-break-in-the-coming-weeks/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/08/1062886/heres-ho...
  - mlindner 4y ago
    His comments on Taiwan were prompted comments in request to a question buried in some interview. He didn't rant about it. He hasn't ever mentioned it on Twitter. And how he was quoted was very different from what he actually said.
    - philliphaydon 4y ago
      I said his comments. Not his tweets. I’m fully aware of what he said. It was all over the news in Taiwan. He pissed off a lot of people here. He showed everyone how in bed he is with the CCP.
      - mlindner 4y ago
        I think he showed he doesn't really care about Taiwan that much. It was an off-hand remark, not a seriously stated position.
tptacek 4y ago
In addition to Tweetbot not working, it's been removed from my list of connected apps.

by iFred 4y ago

minimaxir 4y ago

The hard part for Twitter is figuring out who's left that can fix it.

philliphaydon 4y ago
I disagree, the day he took over twitter people were saying "it wont be up this weekend" "it will be down in a week" "it will be offline in 2 weeks"... yet the reality is, its up and running well. The system is running as good as before. The only thing I've noticed is theres more ad's than usual. ---- Edit: Currently there isn't any outage of Twitter as far as anyone knows. It looks like 3rd party apps have been kicked to the curb. A ~16hr regional outage in AU/NZ is not indicitive of anything. In 2021 Facebook had a global ~7hr outage. Since Musk took over we haven't had all the downtime and disruption everyone kept claiming we would have. Big companies haven outages too, but so far the death of Twitter isn't in sight. Also: I hate Musk since his comments on Ukraine and Taiwan. So don't take my comments as trying to stick up with Musk. I'm not, I hope he loses all his money and becomes broke.
- KyeRussell 4y ago
  If you’re going to argue against what “people” say, you’re always going to look like you’re the smart one and the person you’re disagreeing with is the stupid one.
- notimetorelax 4y ago
  Consider the quality of engineer of the departed team that allowed Twitter to run without incidents for so long. Also, change is the most frequent cause of incidents, as no one was pushing new changes there were fewer chances of an incident.
  - vntok 4y ago
    Surely you're writing this in jest? https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jul/14/twitter-experiences-longest-global-outage-in-years https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jul/14/twitter-e...
    - pcdoyle 4y ago
      Reading that article, I am actually impressed that after that 45-minute outage in 2022, the next major outage was all the way back in 2016. I would say that is actually quite an endorsement for the quality of engineers they had.
- mikkom 4y ago
  It's not like the employees are some gnomes running the system by pulling levers so it is not surprising that rhe system seems to be running ok. The problem arises at the point when there are bugs or other incidents and there is nobody who can fix them.
- input_sh 4y ago
  Australia and NZ experienced a 16h outage last week. Was there someone to fix it eventually? Sure. Is 16h of downtime acceptable for a $44b business? I'm going with no. https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2023/01/twitter-down-australia/ https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2023/01/twitter-down-australia/
  - snvzz 4y ago
    They've likely learned a lot from that incident already. No, Twitter isn't gonna "blow up" overnight. That's nonsense.
    - fortyseven 4y ago
      [flagged]
    - jmcgough 4y ago
      If they hadn't purged the entire staff they wouldn't need to relearn the same lessons
    - nitwit005 4y ago
      > No, Twitter isn't gonna "blow up" overnight. That's nonsense. It's also not something any of the parent comments claimed.
  - recuter 4y ago
    I take it no such outages occurred in the prior history of twitter?
    - input_sh 4y ago
      16h is an awful lot for a social media site, even if region-specific. Single digit number of hours happen from time to time, but double digits are not really a thing anymore. Maybe in early days of social media, not in the past decade.
      - recuter 4y ago
- FranzFerdiNaN 4y ago
  It’s running well because the old guard built it so well. Musk threw them all out, so it will slowly but surely degrade. There was a reason Twitter had such a large workforce.
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    Is this the same twitter who almost died trying to scale when they started? They have been in worse spots. They will be fine and much of the old guard still works there.
  - drstewart 4y ago
    So under what conditions would you consider a company overstaffed?
    - Lutger 4y ago
      I would say you are overstaffed if A) you can't afford them and / or B) you've grown so fast, you don't know how to make use of the staff you have. Perhaps there is a C) which is a variant of B) the business model you are running only requires so much staff and you hit a ceiling in growth.
      - kohlerm 4y ago
        I would not claim to have enough information about twitter being overstaffed? They might have a lot of technical debt, which can cause the need for more people to run it. But that is not "overstaffing".
        hnbad 4y ago
        The question is also how overstaffing is measured. If adding another person reduces the average productivity, you might define that as the cut-off due to the declining ROI for every other person added. But you probably also want some level of redundancy (aka reducing the bus factor) in order to account for the ongoing global health situation and general churn. Of course repeated waves of mass layoffs, demanding a pledge of allegiance to the company and revocation of all employee privileges at the threat of being fired and publicly throwing your employees repeatedly under the bus are also ways to reduce churn, so the bar for "overstaffing" might have actually lowered.
- lexandstuff 4y ago
  This comment feels a bit out of place on a post about part of Twitter being down.
  - philliphaydon 4y ago
    Currently it looks like 3rd party apps have been cut off, not the Twitter or the API being down. So I don't consider it out of place.
- Scharkenberg 4y ago
  He haphazardly ordered turning off "bloated" microservices, including the one responsible for sending auth codes via SMS for 2FA... Learning through mistakes is a thing particularly for newbies, but a CEO should absolutely have a clue about not micromanaging, especially in areas he practically doesn't understand and after firing most people who do.
- suction 4y ago
  [dead]
- susrev 4y ago
  I'm unsure if it is running as good as before. I have noticed more issues over the past week than I ever have using Twit. Particularly, a nasty bug that keeps the timeline refreshing while scrolling and is constantly moving content around on the screen. Curious if anyone else has run into something similar.
- hbarka 4y ago
  If you buy a house and move into it does it suddenly break apart? If not, does the new owner get credit for it not breaking apart? It’s working _in spite of_ the new owner, not because of.
- omnibrain 4y ago
  > its up and running well I would from personal experience disagree on the "well" part. I'm suddenly following accounts I recently unfollowed again. Previously blocked accounts show up. The search doesn't find stuff it used to find anymore - posts that are definitely not deleted because I can usually find them via other references.
  - pcdoyle 4y ago
    I have noticed that the explore page, and my timeline are way staler than they used to be. Tweets I have seen or even interacted with keep popping to the top all day, and trends on the explore page can be there for days at a time. It can take hours for major world events don't show up on the explore page for me sometimes.
- rvz 4y ago
  Really don't know why this is downvoted. We had relentless articles like this [0] expecting the complete and total shutdown of Twitter, globally. That never happened and everyone knows that it was pure hysteria. > Since Musk took over we haven't had all the downtime and disruption everyone kept claiming we would have. Big companies haven outages too, but so far the death of Twitter isn't in sight. So because [0] did not happen most of the critics are setting a new standard for Twitter uptime to be 1000% globally 24/7, absolutely zero outages of any kind and never down for one person. If one outage somewhere happens, it is immediately the end of the world. It wasn't the end of the world when Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat or TikTok had worldwide outages, but 1 regional outage on Twitter and it is somehow the end of times? Please. The fact is, You are getting downvoted because Twitter is still up and running and many of the replies here cannot stand that predictions like this [0] did not come true and will point at any intermittent issue to show the 'Twitter is dying' narrative. The death of Twitter has been greatly exaggerated. If you really wanted it to die, just ignore it. Simple. [0] https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/08/1062886/heres-how-a-twitter-engineer-says-it-will-break-in-the-coming-weeks/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/08/1062886/heres-ho...
- mlindner 4y ago
  His comments on Taiwan were prompted comments in request to a question buried in some interview. He didn't rant about it. He hasn't ever mentioned it on Twitter. And how he was quoted was very different from what he actually said.
  - philliphaydon 4y ago
    I said his comments. Not his tweets. I’m fully aware of what he said. It was all over the news in Taiwan. He pissed off a lot of people here. He showed everyone how in bed he is with the CCP.
    - mlindner 4y ago
      I think he showed he doesn't really care about Taiwan that much. It was an off-hand remark, not a seriously stated position.

tptacek 4y ago

In addition to Tweetbot not working, it's been removed from my list of connected apps.