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I do something similar, and in my case it is apparently a result of ADHD/ASD, but that's not why I'm here. I installed the OneTab browser plugin fairly recently

I do something similar, and in my case it is apparently a result of ADHD/ASD, but that's not why I'm here. I installed the OneTab browser plugin fairly recently because I tended to keep open "too many" tabs across multiple devices for various reasons. And I'd use it, and all my tabs are "closed and bookmarked and filed away", and then a short while later I've got dozens of tabs open again. In most cases, I've actually read these and I'm expecting to continue using the content in some manner. So, anyway, counting what's open right now and what I've filed away, I'm at nearly 700 tabs. Some of them will be reused but the vast majority of essentially junk food for the brain. That doesn't include the untracked but presumably insane number of things I actually did read but didn't keep open in a tab or file for later (just as it ignores the several hundred unread books on my Kindle while not counting the vast number of digital and physical books I do read). I could handwave and spout unfounded theories about dopamine or "conditions" or anything you like, but ultimately, after decades of this, in my case it's what happens when my focus is on consuming rather than producing (ex: when I'm not engaged in something like a zettelkasten process), while allowing my insatiable curiosity and love of learning to remain undirected. In short, you've got to manage that stuff. Or, at least, I do,

conceptualspace 4y ago
to help manage this i created a "speed dial" extension and use it basically as a visual bookmark manager. the advantage to tabs in a list is that they are easy to reference visually, and like any bookmark can be sorted and arranged into folders. for example i have one for technical references, various research topics, etc that i plan to come back to. and its easy to pop one off the list to maintain them. check it out if youre curious, its open source! https://github.com/conceptualspace/yet-another-speed-dial https://github.com/conceptualspace/yet-another-speed-dial
phkahler 4y ago
Those of you trying to curate large amounts of link should get together and create a public index of all that content. You could call the site yoohoo or something ;-)
- sanderjd 4y ago
  I unironically think social bookmarking is a missing product. Not because it doesn't exist, but because nothing has gained enough mindshare and momentum to be dominant and widely used.
  - Moissanite 4y ago
    StumbleUpon used to be a kind of answer to this. I'd love to have it back, particularly if the contents could be curated (eg "show me a random link which has been featured on the front page of HN or lobste.rs in the last month")
    - worldsayshi 4y ago
      If somebody can figure out a note/link app that becomes as easy to manage when you're adding your first note as when you're adding your thousandth note then such services will stop dying out.
    - sanderjd 4y ago
      Yes, I loved that era of the web!
  - krazydad 4y ago
    delicio.us was pretty great in it’s day
    - sanderjd 4y ago
      Yes! One of the other comments got to the crux of this: nobody ever figured out a sustainable business model for this. I think it's a shame.
      - fsckboy 4y ago
        i don't think any of the things I've liked that found a sustainable business model remained the way I liked them either
stavros_ 4y ago
Fellow ADHDr here, also living the many tabs life. I highly recommend the Sidebery addon (Firefox). Not just tree style tabs, but tree style tabs with customizable panels so you can sort everything out quite tidily. I'm able to manage hundreds of tabs without mess, and prune through them on a weekly basis seeing what needs to be bookmarked or can be safely forgotten.
- INeedMoreRam 4y ago
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jwmoz 4y ago
Delete all the tabs now and watch the world continue.
pessimizer 4y ago
I don't know if you use firefox and tree-style tabs (unlikely, but far more likely here than anywhere else.) If you do, there's an extension for tree-style tabs (an extension for the extension) called "Fade Old Tabs." It allows you to color tabs based on how long it's been since they were accessed. You do this by setting a age range for tabs to be painted gray. Tabs not accessed since the beginning of that range are panted dark gray, and tabs accessed after the range are not colored at all. So if you have 700 tabs and 600 of them you haven't opened in a month, you'll see them and it might make a difference in your habits. It also makes it easier to surf your open tabs when you're bored, rather than surfing randomly and adding new tabs.
- krackpot 4y ago
  Thank you for sharing "Fade Old Tabs". I have the same problem with OP and have 1200+ tabs open across 4 firefox windows. That is after a big purge I did earlier this year where it was 2000+. Tree Style Tabs crashed a lot before but it has been quite good in recent memory. I have a hard time closing out what is essentially my thought process to finding a solution or doing research. Along the way I close out dead branches. What remains is either a solution or where I have left off. I think my mental barrier is what it represents: my time capital sunk. The issue is working around this many tabs and managing it; a time sink in itself to fix. Started documenting completed solutions in Obsidian and I've found that if I can't get over my lazy barrier to even enter it in, it's probably not important. Just have to keep working on improving and refining the way I think and approach this.
  - deafpolygon 4y ago
    > have 1200+ tabs open across 4 firefox windows does research get you to have so many open? How do you manage it all? I've only just started using Sidebery but I try to keep my tabs at a reasonable 100-200 open.
    - Arrath 4y ago
      If OP is anything like me, they 'manage' the old tabs by thinking "Oh that's neat I'll leave it open so I can come back to it' and...never do that.
numbasys 4y ago
This is a valuable reply because it describes my own experience so well. Thank you.
SpencerOMG 4y ago
lol a OneTab newbie, eh? I've used OneTab (and then switched to BetterOneTab). Been using it for about 5 years or so. I have dozens of exported "backup" files, because after a certain amount of saved tabs, the extension stops working. You can't save any new ones. I've lost maybe 100 tabs so far by adding them to OneTab only to discover I was at my limit and nothing got saved. It then stops allowing deletions (they come back after refreshing the extension page). So I have to export my hundreds or even thousands of tabs, uninstall the extension, and then reinstall it. And then I keep hoarding. I have a real bad case of digital tsundoku. Even as I type this, I have roughly 80 links from HN opened, two dozen or so Twitter tabs, probably 30 YouTube tabs, and then a healthy heap of other miscellaneous sites. I know I will never get through this infinite backlog. Even if I were to squirrel myself away and do nothing but open each tab, digest its contents, and move on to the next, it would probably take me years. And I would be so burnt out I wouldn't be digesting well enough. Plus, most of that information is probably, at least slightly, outdated. ...Oh well, time to open up another dozen 3-hour long YouTube "mini" docs about niche subjects I have no engagement in.
arcticfox 4y ago
In case anyone else is looking into browser options, I can't recommend https://arc.net/ https://arc.net/ more highly. I never thought I'd move away from Chrome, but then again, I never considered that they'd gather so much users that they can't make fundamental UX improvements any more without massive friction. Arc is just better for me in terms of staying organized. Everyone seems to have their own favorite feature, but "Spaces" are the killer feature for me.
- codethief 4y ago
  Am I seeing this correctly that arc.net doesn't provide any information about this supposed super browser at all and instead just links to a sign-up form where I need to provide my email address? Yeah, no, not doing that.
  - arcticfox 4y ago
    It hasn't been released officially yet, only as an invite-only preview so I don't think they mind if they turn away users at this point that don't know what they're getting into (an alpha). There are plenty of youtube videos if you're curious about the actual features.
- bollos 4y ago
  Arc definitely has some features that I really like. Wish they would've released it on other platforms too as I'm not always using my Mac for everything that I do day-to-day.
lannisterstark 4y ago
I have over 24000 frickign tabs on OneTab saved lol https://tabula.civitat.es/images/2023/01/06/8krQ.png https://tabula.civitat.es/images/2023/01/06/8krQ.png I may have a problem.
- johnchristopher 4y ago
  Re... restore all !
- yawboakye 4y ago
  i'd be interested in how many are dead links now. i'm nowhere near (hovering around 500 at the moment) and when i frequently do a healthcheck i see that most are already dead. are you archiving (using archive's wayback machine or something?) to ensure they're alive when you need them? for some definition of need lol
  - lannisterstark 4y ago
    Most of these tabs are "Oh these are interesting, I'll save it and read it later this evening by restoring them." Repeat next morning. ...the restoring part doesn't happen.
- user_7832 4y ago
  Please export the tabs, before one tab crashes on you. I’m amazed you made it till 24k without it crashing, low-k tabs are enough on my laptop to crash it. (Though my laptop is from 2015 so that might also factor in.)
- jovi909 4y ago
  Isn't that 24000 bookmarks and not "tabs" - a tab (to me) means an open tab in the browser.
  - lannisterstark 4y ago
    I mean sure. a "tab" that you've hibernated in the background (on browsers that support it) is just a bookmark as well, realistically speaking. Also they were tabs at one point. Except I can hit restore all...
grugagag 4y ago
I got over tab hoarding by adding a shortcut to onetab to archive the current tab. Now I freely archive the tabs knowing it’s recoverable, problem solved for me.
- aryehof 4y ago
  > adding a shortcut to onetab to archive the current tab How do you achieve that?
Ghoyome 4y ago
Windows > Tabs every single time. What helped me most was a good window manager: • A single floating window acting as an opener* • windows are always arranged in the case of tiling wms. • In the case of Firefox user.css can help u remove the tab bar entirely. And opening in windows rather than tabs can be configured. • I built my own window fuzzy searcher for finding windows. The effect is compulsory need to close windows asap but keep a couple of windows forever that are actually for doing work. In my case : • newsboat > firefox. • Cmus > firefox. • Aerc > firefox. • Irssi > firefox. The list goes on and on. The benefit is this: every job has it’s own window. Note that still it is 100% the case that when not in “production/building” mode the default is consuming. This setup merely helps heighten awareness to the fact. Hope it helps! * lf, ranger, nnn are all good choices.
- Havelock 4y ago
  I do the same, but right now I just keep tabmanager.io on my right screen to show a grid of all my windows. Some which I save for later, e.g. switching between projects.
soulofmischief 4y ago
700 open tabs... Try 7000.... I have tabs all the way back from 2014 open right now on one of my firefox instances (probably have ~15 Firefox windows open across devices rn) which I have migrated between multiple machines along with my user profile, and I'm telling you I'm gonna get to them any day now.
- Luc 4y ago
  I have 272x tabs open, 170x in my main window. I have been using Tab Session Manager to save and then close windows. Try it, you can always restore the window later. (the x in the numbers is because the display overflows haha)
  - aborsy 4y ago
    How much ram does that take? I find Firefox problematic after around 10 tabs.
    - Luc 4y ago
      Don't know, not enough to cause trouble on my 16GB Mac Mini m1, with 10 other apps open as well.
    - kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
      Firefox doesn't load inactive tabs after a restart. They're just low overhead database entries.
  - soulofmischief 4y ago
    Tab Session Manager is essential, as all of us Firefox users know how bad Firefox is at randomly trashing your tab sessions. I've nearly given myself a heart attack a few times over the years.
- alx__ 4y ago
  > and I'm telling you I'm gonna get to them any day now I feel this deeply The compromise I found was just to dump them into my bookmarking service. If I really really need to find that thing again, it's saved somewhere. 99% of the time it's just digital ephemera and I try to let it go and close the tab.
theshrike79 4y ago
I started offloading my "I'm SURE I'll read this tab at one point" to pinboard.in I can not read them from there too and they won't take up resources from my computer =)
agentwiggles 4y ago
> it's what happens when my focus is on consuming rather than producing ... while allowing my insatiable curiosity and love of learning to remain undirected. This really spoke to me - I find it to be a really positive way of framing the frustration I often feel with myself when I just can't get focused on work. Because at the end of the day, the clicking through links or reading up on something tangential to the result I want is driven by the same things that make me want to be creative in the first place. I recently read The Millionaire Fastlane - which is a book I have seriously mixed feelings about - but one of the things that I thought was good in it was the advice to focus on being a producer rather than a consumer. I like this framing of the dichotomy, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
- hoc 4y ago
  I would be easy if it was that easy. Being productive is important, though. The Billionaire Fastlane, however, will tell you that you need a broader view to come up with a great idea. After all the (healthy) idea behind learning and information aggregation in the first place would be that you learn all that stuff to be better prepared towards taking the right (intelligent and educated) actions. So there might be an individual balance that you have to find/develop and keep up. The trivial solutions at the edges never seem to satisfy.
  - agentwiggles 4y ago
    That's a good point! I didn't mean to imply that the book says that dedication to learning or producing is enough in and of itself. Just to say that one of the things I agreed with in the book is that it's better to be a producer than a consumer. Overall, I enjoyed the book, and thought some of the advice in there was really good. One thing I thought was valuable was something I think you're getting at in your post - which is that ideas that have the potential to make big money quickly have a combination of scale and reach and magnitude. As a younger guy, I thought that the way people got rich was to get a good job and save lots of money (think doctor, lawyer, engineer). But as I entered the workforce I started to understand that actual rich people I encountered almost exclusively got wealthy through owning or being pretty high up in a business. One thing that reading Millionaire Fastlane helped me crystallize is that serious wealth creation isn't an inherent property of all businesses, and that plenty of self owned businesses don't pay as well as a regular job, and even create more work for their owners than a job would. And that businesses that can create real wealth (read: "can make someone rich") have to have that scale and reach. Overall I felt the read was worth my time, even if there are some things about it that I didn't love.
prankbudgetio 4y ago
Guilty as charged, closed 2022 w/ 6k+ on 2 [onetab]s. Jon Blow said "often if you just keep observing the pattern, it will naturally give you the ability to break out of it" so let's find out. Good case study though.
cxqtheresh 4y ago
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agumonkey 4y ago
I'm regularly starting a custom firefox extension to manage them ~700..800 tabs (my average) but then I choke and the cycle repeat :) Happy to know other have this problem. ps: to Mozilla Firefox team, kudos on handling that much .. I've used firefox with 1200 open tabs (all kinds of complexity) and it still work ok on my old machine. That said one can notice a clear change in lag after 300-400 but well I won't complain :)
appel 4y ago
It's mildly ironic that it is now 9 days later and I still have this thread open in a tab so I can 'get to it later'. Sigh.
- refset 4y ago
  Well, at least we're getting through them eventually :)

conceptualspace 4y ago

to help manage this i created a "speed dial" extension and use it basically as a visual bookmark manager. the advantage to tabs in a list is that they are easy to reference visually, and like any bookmark can be sorted and arranged into folders. for example i have one for technical references, various research topics, etc that i plan to come back to. and its easy to pop one off the list to maintain them. check it out if youre curious, its open source! https://github.com/conceptualspace/yet-another-speed-dial https://github.com/conceptualspace/yet-another-speed-dial

phkahler 4y ago

Those of you trying to curate large amounts of link should get together and create a public index of all that content. You could call the site yoohoo or something ;-)

sanderjd 4y ago
I unironically think social bookmarking is a missing product. Not because it doesn't exist, but because nothing has gained enough mindshare and momentum to be dominant and widely used.
- Moissanite 4y ago
  StumbleUpon used to be a kind of answer to this. I'd love to have it back, particularly if the contents could be curated (eg "show me a random link which has been featured on the front page of HN or lobste.rs in the last month")
  - worldsayshi 4y ago
    If somebody can figure out a note/link app that becomes as easy to manage when you're adding your first note as when you're adding your thousandth note then such services will stop dying out.
  - sanderjd 4y ago
    Yes, I loved that era of the web!
- krazydad 4y ago
  delicio.us was pretty great in it’s day
  - sanderjd 4y ago
    Yes! One of the other comments got to the crux of this: nobody ever figured out a sustainable business model for this. I think it's a shame.
    - fsckboy 4y ago
      i don't think any of the things I've liked that found a sustainable business model remained the way I liked them either

stavros_ 4y ago

Fellow ADHDr here, also living the many tabs life. I highly recommend the Sidebery addon (Firefox). Not just tree style tabs, but tree style tabs with customizable panels so you can sort everything out quite tidily. I'm able to manage hundreds of tabs without mess, and prune through them on a weekly basis seeing what needs to be bookmarked or can be safely forgotten.

INeedMoreRam 4y ago
[dead]

jwmoz 4y ago

Delete all the tabs now and watch the world continue.

pessimizer 4y ago

I don't know if you use firefox and tree-style tabs (unlikely, but far more likely here than anywhere else.) If you do, there's an extension for tree-style tabs (an extension for the extension) called "Fade Old Tabs." It allows you to color tabs based on how long it's been since they were accessed. You do this by setting a age range for tabs to be painted gray. Tabs not accessed since the beginning of that range are panted dark gray, and tabs accessed after the range are not colored at all. So if you have 700 tabs and 600 of them you haven't opened in a month, you'll see them and it might make a difference in your habits. It also makes it easier to surf your open tabs when you're bored, rather than surfing randomly and adding new tabs.

krackpot 4y ago
Thank you for sharing "Fade Old Tabs". I have the same problem with OP and have 1200+ tabs open across 4 firefox windows. That is after a big purge I did earlier this year where it was 2000+. Tree Style Tabs crashed a lot before but it has been quite good in recent memory. I have a hard time closing out what is essentially my thought process to finding a solution or doing research. Along the way I close out dead branches. What remains is either a solution or where I have left off. I think my mental barrier is what it represents: my time capital sunk. The issue is working around this many tabs and managing it; a time sink in itself to fix. Started documenting completed solutions in Obsidian and I've found that if I can't get over my lazy barrier to even enter it in, it's probably not important. Just have to keep working on improving and refining the way I think and approach this.
- deafpolygon 4y ago
  > have 1200+ tabs open across 4 firefox windows does research get you to have so many open? How do you manage it all? I've only just started using Sidebery but I try to keep my tabs at a reasonable 100-200 open.
  - Arrath 4y ago
    If OP is anything like me, they 'manage' the old tabs by thinking "Oh that's neat I'll leave it open so I can come back to it' and...never do that.

numbasys 4y ago

This is a valuable reply because it describes my own experience so well. Thank you.

SpencerOMG 4y ago

lol a OneTab newbie, eh? I've used OneTab (and then switched to BetterOneTab). Been using it for about 5 years or so. I have dozens of exported "backup" files, because after a certain amount of saved tabs, the extension stops working. You can't save any new ones. I've lost maybe 100 tabs so far by adding them to OneTab only to discover I was at my limit and nothing got saved. It then stops allowing deletions (they come back after refreshing the extension page). So I have to export my hundreds or even thousands of tabs, uninstall the extension, and then reinstall it. And then I keep hoarding. I have a real bad case of digital tsundoku. Even as I type this, I have roughly 80 links from HN opened, two dozen or so Twitter tabs, probably 30 YouTube tabs, and then a healthy heap of other miscellaneous sites. I know I will never get through this infinite backlog. Even if I were to squirrel myself away and do nothing but open each tab, digest its contents, and move on to the next, it would probably take me years. And I would be so burnt out I wouldn't be digesting well enough. Plus, most of that information is probably, at least slightly, outdated. ...Oh well, time to open up another dozen 3-hour long YouTube "mini" docs about niche subjects I have no engagement in.

arcticfox 4y ago

In case anyone else is looking into browser options, I can't recommend https://arc.net/ https://arc.net/ more highly. I never thought I'd move away from Chrome, but then again, I never considered that they'd gather so much users that they can't make fundamental UX improvements any more without massive friction. Arc is just better for me in terms of staying organized. Everyone seems to have their own favorite feature, but "Spaces" are the killer feature for me.

codethief 4y ago
Am I seeing this correctly that arc.net doesn't provide any information about this supposed super browser at all and instead just links to a sign-up form where I need to provide my email address? Yeah, no, not doing that.
- arcticfox 4y ago
  It hasn't been released officially yet, only as an invite-only preview so I don't think they mind if they turn away users at this point that don't know what they're getting into (an alpha). There are plenty of youtube videos if you're curious about the actual features.
bollos 4y ago
Arc definitely has some features that I really like. Wish they would've released it on other platforms too as I'm not always using my Mac for everything that I do day-to-day.

lannisterstark 4y ago

I have over 24000 frickign tabs on OneTab saved lol https://tabula.civitat.es/images/2023/01/06/8krQ.png https://tabula.civitat.es/images/2023/01/06/8krQ.png I may have a problem.

johnchristopher 4y ago
Re... restore all !
yawboakye 4y ago
i'd be interested in how many are dead links now. i'm nowhere near (hovering around 500 at the moment) and when i frequently do a healthcheck i see that most are already dead. are you archiving (using archive's wayback machine or something?) to ensure they're alive when you need them? for some definition of need lol
- lannisterstark 4y ago
  Most of these tabs are "Oh these are interesting, I'll save it and read it later this evening by restoring them." Repeat next morning. ...the restoring part doesn't happen.
user_7832 4y ago
Please export the tabs, before one tab crashes on you. I’m amazed you made it till 24k without it crashing, low-k tabs are enough on my laptop to crash it. (Though my laptop is from 2015 so that might also factor in.)
jovi909 4y ago
Isn't that 24000 bookmarks and not "tabs" - a tab (to me) means an open tab in the browser.
- lannisterstark 4y ago
  I mean sure. a "tab" that you've hibernated in the background (on browsers that support it) is just a bookmark as well, realistically speaking. Also they were tabs at one point. Except I can hit restore all...

grugagag 4y ago

I got over tab hoarding by adding a shortcut to onetab to archive the current tab. Now I freely archive the tabs knowing it’s recoverable, problem solved for me.

aryehof 4y ago
> adding a shortcut to onetab to archive the current tab How do you achieve that?

Ghoyome 4y ago

Windows > Tabs every single time. What helped me most was a good window manager: • A single floating window acting as an opener* • windows are always arranged in the case of tiling wms. • In the case of Firefox user.css can help u remove the tab bar entirely. And opening in windows rather than tabs can be configured. • I built my own window fuzzy searcher for finding windows. The effect is compulsory need to close windows asap but keep a couple of windows forever that are actually for doing work. In my case : • newsboat > firefox. • Cmus > firefox. • Aerc > firefox. • Irssi > firefox. The list goes on and on. The benefit is this: every job has it’s own window. Note that still it is 100% the case that when not in “production/building” mode the default is consuming. This setup merely helps heighten awareness to the fact. Hope it helps! * lf, ranger, nnn are all good choices.

Havelock 4y ago
I do the same, but right now I just keep tabmanager.io on my right screen to show a grid of all my windows. Some which I save for later, e.g. switching between projects.

soulofmischief 4y ago

700 open tabs... Try 7000.... I have tabs all the way back from 2014 open right now on one of my firefox instances (probably have ~15 Firefox windows open across devices rn) which I have migrated between multiple machines along with my user profile, and I'm telling you I'm gonna get to them any day now.

Luc 4y ago
I have 272x tabs open, 170x in my main window. I have been using Tab Session Manager to save and then close windows. Try it, you can always restore the window later. (the x in the numbers is because the display overflows haha)
- aborsy 4y ago
  How much ram does that take? I find Firefox problematic after around 10 tabs.
  - Luc 4y ago
    Don't know, not enough to cause trouble on my 16GB Mac Mini m1, with 10 other apps open as well.
  - kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
    Firefox doesn't load inactive tabs after a restart. They're just low overhead database entries.
- soulofmischief 4y ago
  Tab Session Manager is essential, as all of us Firefox users know how bad Firefox is at randomly trashing your tab sessions. I've nearly given myself a heart attack a few times over the years.
alx__ 4y ago
> and I'm telling you I'm gonna get to them any day now I feel this deeply The compromise I found was just to dump them into my bookmarking service. If I really really need to find that thing again, it's saved somewhere. 99% of the time it's just digital ephemera and I try to let it go and close the tab.

theshrike79 4y ago

I started offloading my "I'm SURE I'll read this tab at one point" to pinboard.in I can not read them from there too and they won't take up resources from my computer =)

agentwiggles 4y ago

> it's what happens when my focus is on consuming rather than producing ... while allowing my insatiable curiosity and love of learning to remain undirected. This really spoke to me - I find it to be a really positive way of framing the frustration I often feel with myself when I just can't get focused on work. Because at the end of the day, the clicking through links or reading up on something tangential to the result I want is driven by the same things that make me want to be creative in the first place. I recently read The Millionaire Fastlane - which is a book I have seriously mixed feelings about - but one of the things that I thought was good in it was the advice to focus on being a producer rather than a consumer. I like this framing of the dichotomy, thanks for sharing your thoughts!

hoc 4y ago
I would be easy if it was that easy. Being productive is important, though. The Billionaire Fastlane, however, will tell you that you need a broader view to come up with a great idea. After all the (healthy) idea behind learning and information aggregation in the first place would be that you learn all that stuff to be better prepared towards taking the right (intelligent and educated) actions. So there might be an individual balance that you have to find/develop and keep up. The trivial solutions at the edges never seem to satisfy.
- agentwiggles 4y ago
  That's a good point! I didn't mean to imply that the book says that dedication to learning or producing is enough in and of itself. Just to say that one of the things I agreed with in the book is that it's better to be a producer than a consumer. Overall, I enjoyed the book, and thought some of the advice in there was really good. One thing I thought was valuable was something I think you're getting at in your post - which is that ideas that have the potential to make big money quickly have a combination of scale and reach and magnitude. As a younger guy, I thought that the way people got rich was to get a good job and save lots of money (think doctor, lawyer, engineer). But as I entered the workforce I started to understand that actual rich people I encountered almost exclusively got wealthy through owning or being pretty high up in a business. One thing that reading Millionaire Fastlane helped me crystallize is that serious wealth creation isn't an inherent property of all businesses, and that plenty of self owned businesses don't pay as well as a regular job, and even create more work for their owners than a job would. And that businesses that can create real wealth (read: "can make someone rich") have to have that scale and reach. Overall I felt the read was worth my time, even if there are some things about it that I didn't love.

prankbudgetio 4y ago

Guilty as charged, closed 2022 w/ 6k+ on 2 [onetab]s. Jon Blow said "often if you just keep observing the pattern, it will naturally give you the ability to break out of it" so let's find out. Good case study though.

cxqtheresh 4y ago

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agumonkey 4y ago

I'm regularly starting a custom firefox extension to manage them ~700..800 tabs (my average) but then I choke and the cycle repeat :) Happy to know other have this problem. ps: to Mozilla Firefox team, kudos on handling that much .. I've used firefox with 1200 open tabs (all kinds of complexity) and it still work ok on my old machine. That said one can notice a clear change in lag after 300-400 but well I won't complain :)

appel 4y ago

It's mildly ironic that it is now 9 days later and I still have this thread open in a tab so I can 'get to it later'. Sigh.

refset 4y ago
Well, at least we're getting through them eventually :)