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Really cool. Will this new? info be able to help Apple fans in any way? Still wondering when they will go USB-C.

ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
> Still wondering when they will go USB-C. The EU is forcing them to do so by mid-2024, so it is widely believed that the iPhone 15 will be USB-C. The Siri Remote and AirPods charging cases already are.
- ehhthing 4y ago
  iPad Pros also use USB C, so they already have the requite support on the portable electronics side. Right now it seems mostly a transition for the phone accessories. Personally, I think apple has wanted to switch to USB-C for a while on iPhone. They waited until the EU actually passed legislation so they could find a person to point fingers at when their customers complained about accessories breaking compatibility.
  - Hamuko 4y ago
    All iPad models use USB-C now. The only caveat to that is that when they introduced the new iPad model with USB-C, they kept the old model as part of the line-up and that old model still has Lightning.
    - youngtaff 4y ago
      There’s some variation between them when it comes to software though - with custom USB drivers only being available for the M1 based iPads that are supported via USBDriverKit I’ve got an iPad mini and what I really want is a USB oscilloscope that works with it
  - masklinn 4y ago
    > iPad Pros also use USB C, so they already have the requite support on the portable electronics side. It's always been there, lightning is just a connector, the physical protocol is USB. > Personally, I think apple has wanted to switch to USB-C for a while on iPhone. Yes, but also after the DC -> Lightning transition they kinda promised there would be no new transition for a while, which was pretty safe at the time, but USB-C landed a few years later. I actually expected the iPhone 14 to switch, as 2022 is the 10 years anniversary of Lightning, and about how long the Dock Connector lasted (although technically it survived until this year and the discontinuation of the iPod Touch).
    - realityking 4y ago
      > although technically it survived until this year and the discontinuation of the iPod Touch The iPod Touch has been using Lightning since the 5th generation released in 2012.
      - diroussel 4y ago
        When it was announced by apple they said the 30-pin connector has lasted a decade, and lightning was the connector for the next decade. That was September 2012. The decade is up. Personally I would be happy to keep lightning. It’s simple, it works. I have many lightning cables. If I see I lightning cable I know exactly what it’s for. With USB-C you can’t know the capability of the cable by looking at it. But I suppose lightning has had it’s term in office and it’s time to move on.
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- dymk 4y ago
  They’ll just go wireless and remove the port entirely
  - nolok 4y ago
    If Apple answer to that regulation is to go wireless and use a system that's compatible with other brands, that is a massive victory for the EU and the planet in terms of reduced waste. The goal was to reduce waste and they already included in the same regulation that if companies don't agree on a common tech for wireless (like it is now) but go their own way to sell exclusive ones that can't be used with other brands then they would regulate that too.
    - threeseed 4y ago
      iPhones are compatible with the Qi standard which is limited to 7.5 watts. MagSafe however can charge up to 15 watts. So in some respects it is still a proprietary connector.
      - sofixa 4y ago
        The Qi 1.2 standard is up to 15 watts.
        threeseed 4y ago
        Which was released in 2015 and Apple still does not support. I doubt they will let anything compete with MagSafe short of more EU regulation.
      - krzyk 4y ago
        Qi supports at least Baseline Power Profile (which is 5 W) and the Extended Power Profile (which is 15W). I'm not sure what and why Apple did to introduce 7.5W which is proprietary Apple extension.
    - dymk 4y ago
      Charging cables contribute such a minuscule amount to landfills it’s laughable. It’s feel good legislation that distracts from real environmentally conscious efforts.
- terramex 4y ago
  > AirPods charging cases already are They are not. Even latest models from September still use Lightning and wireless only.
  - gorbypark 4y ago
    Sadly true. I was planning on buying the new AirPods Pro’s as the rumor mill was saying they’d be USB-C, but alas they are still lightning. Weirdly enough the new AppleTV 4K remote is USB-C (both were released at the same time). I guess it makes sense to keep the AirPods on lightning as long as the iPhone is. Hopefully if the iPhone 15 is USB-C they will release a new version of the AirPods with USB-C, too. Until then I’m sticking with my 8 euro Xiaomi Bluetooth earbuds.
    - SSLy 4y ago
      The usb-c apple TV remote was shown about a month later than the stoll lighting airpods pro 2.
      - gorbypark 4y ago
        Ah yes, you are correct. I'm not sure why I thought that as I clearly remember them being two events now that you've made me think about it!
    - addaon 4y ago
      The Beats Fit Pro are USB-C, use the same chipset as the AirPods Pro, and are (for my particular ears) much more comfortable.
      - diebeforei485 4y ago
        For the avoidance of doubt: they use the same chipset as the old AirPods Pro (H1), not the new H2 that's used in the latest AirPods Pro.
- saiya-jin 4y ago
  > The Siri Remote and AirPods charging cases already are. that's patently not true, bought latest airpods pro last week to my wife and it still has that obsolete lightning port
  - ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
    My bad, I saw a headline about it, but it was a one-off retrofit: https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/10/usb-c-airpods/ https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/10/usb-c-airpods/ It is in the works, though: https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/9/23298151/apple-usb-c-airpods-charging-case https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/9/23298151/apple-usb-c-airpo...
whalesalad 4y ago
I have a usb-c iPad. I do prefer the lightning connector but usb-c is a close second and leaps and bounds better than the previous usb phone interfaces.

> Still wondering when they will go USB-C. The EU is forcing them to do so by mid-2024, so it is widely believed that the iPhone 15 will be USB-C. The Siri Remote and AirPods charging cases already are.

ehhthing 4y ago
iPad Pros also use USB C, so they already have the requite support on the portable electronics side. Right now it seems mostly a transition for the phone accessories. Personally, I think apple has wanted to switch to USB-C for a while on iPhone. They waited until the EU actually passed legislation so they could find a person to point fingers at when their customers complained about accessories breaking compatibility.
- Hamuko 4y ago
  All iPad models use USB-C now. The only caveat to that is that when they introduced the new iPad model with USB-C, they kept the old model as part of the line-up and that old model still has Lightning.
  - youngtaff 4y ago
    There’s some variation between them when it comes to software though - with custom USB drivers only being available for the M1 based iPads that are supported via USBDriverKit I’ve got an iPad mini and what I really want is a USB oscilloscope that works with it
- masklinn 4y ago
  > iPad Pros also use USB C, so they already have the requite support on the portable electronics side. It's always been there, lightning is just a connector, the physical protocol is USB. > Personally, I think apple has wanted to switch to USB-C for a while on iPhone. Yes, but also after the DC -> Lightning transition they kinda promised there would be no new transition for a while, which was pretty safe at the time, but USB-C landed a few years later. I actually expected the iPhone 14 to switch, as 2022 is the 10 years anniversary of Lightning, and about how long the Dock Connector lasted (although technically it survived until this year and the discontinuation of the iPod Touch).
  - realityking 4y ago
    > although technically it survived until this year and the discontinuation of the iPod Touch The iPod Touch has been using Lightning since the 5th generation released in 2012.
    - diroussel 4y ago
      When it was announced by apple they said the 30-pin connector has lasted a decade, and lightning was the connector for the next decade. That was September 2012. The decade is up. Personally I would be happy to keep lightning. It’s simple, it works. I have many lightning cables. If I see I lightning cable I know exactly what it’s for. With USB-C you can’t know the capability of the cable by looking at it. But I suppose lightning has had it’s term in office and it’s time to move on.
- deleted 4y ago
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dymk 4y ago
They’ll just go wireless and remove the port entirely
- nolok 4y ago
  If Apple answer to that regulation is to go wireless and use a system that's compatible with other brands, that is a massive victory for the EU and the planet in terms of reduced waste. The goal was to reduce waste and they already included in the same regulation that if companies don't agree on a common tech for wireless (like it is now) but go their own way to sell exclusive ones that can't be used with other brands then they would regulate that too.
  - threeseed 4y ago
    iPhones are compatible with the Qi standard which is limited to 7.5 watts. MagSafe however can charge up to 15 watts. So in some respects it is still a proprietary connector.
    - sofixa 4y ago
      The Qi 1.2 standard is up to 15 watts.
      - threeseed 4y ago
        Which was released in 2015 and Apple still does not support. I doubt they will let anything compete with MagSafe short of more EU regulation.
    - krzyk 4y ago
      Qi supports at least Baseline Power Profile (which is 5 W) and the Extended Power Profile (which is 15W). I'm not sure what and why Apple did to introduce 7.5W which is proprietary Apple extension.
  - dymk 4y ago
    Charging cables contribute such a minuscule amount to landfills it’s laughable. It’s feel good legislation that distracts from real environmentally conscious efforts.
terramex 4y ago
> AirPods charging cases already are They are not. Even latest models from September still use Lightning and wireless only.
- gorbypark 4y ago
  Sadly true. I was planning on buying the new AirPods Pro’s as the rumor mill was saying they’d be USB-C, but alas they are still lightning. Weirdly enough the new AppleTV 4K remote is USB-C (both were released at the same time). I guess it makes sense to keep the AirPods on lightning as long as the iPhone is. Hopefully if the iPhone 15 is USB-C they will release a new version of the AirPods with USB-C, too. Until then I’m sticking with my 8 euro Xiaomi Bluetooth earbuds.
  - SSLy 4y ago
    The usb-c apple TV remote was shown about a month later than the stoll lighting airpods pro 2.
    - gorbypark 4y ago
      Ah yes, you are correct. I'm not sure why I thought that as I clearly remember them being two events now that you've made me think about it!
  - addaon 4y ago
    The Beats Fit Pro are USB-C, use the same chipset as the AirPods Pro, and are (for my particular ears) much more comfortable.
    - diebeforei485 4y ago
      For the avoidance of doubt: they use the same chipset as the old AirPods Pro (H1), not the new H2 that's used in the latest AirPods Pro.
saiya-jin 4y ago
> The Siri Remote and AirPods charging cases already are. that's patently not true, bought latest airpods pro last week to my wife and it still has that obsolete lightning port
- ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
  My bad, I saw a headline about it, but it was a one-off retrofit: https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/10/usb-c-airpods/ https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/10/usb-c-airpods/ It is in the works, though: https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/9/23298151/apple-usb-c-airpods-charging-case https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/9/23298151/apple-usb-c-airpo...

whalesalad 4y ago

I have a usb-c iPad. I do prefer the lightning connector but usb-c is a close second and leaps and bounds better than the previous usb phone interfaces.