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Saw a great toot yesterday. Startups and media business are looking to make a windfall on AI generated art, music, code, writing, and other services. The pay
by zzzeek 4y ago
Saw a great toot yesterday.
Startups and media business are looking to make a windfall on AI generated art, music, code, writing, and other services. The payment models will be subscriptions, pay per use, and other models that make more money the more content is produced.
But there's still no AI (with associated mechanics) that can fold laundry.
(I think the latter would be really useful.)
- kache_ 4y ago>There's still no AI that can fold laundry We're actually really close to general robot agents that operate in your home. Check out googleAI's saycan & RT-1 systems https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/12/rt-1-robotics-transformer-for-real.html#:~:text=The%20following%20video%20shows%20a%20few%20example%20PaLM%2DSayCan%2DRT1%20executions%20of%20long%2Dhorizon%20tasks%20in%20multiple%20real%20kitchens https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/12/rt-1-robotics-transformer-....
- mnutt 4y agoAlso: https://kottke.org/10/04/the-robot-who-considers-towels https://kottke.org/10/04/the-robot-who-considers-towels
- causality0 4y agoThat's gonna be great until someone hacks it and has it stab me to death in my sleep.
- seanw444 4y agoMore worried about government backdoors.
- danielheath 4y agoMuch like my fears about bluetooth connected cars being hacked to crash on the highway, it turns out that - by and large - nobody wants to kill me (or at least, not badly enough to do anything about it).
- brookst 4y agoTruly the most evil hacker is the one that leaves you to live out your life until old age and decrepitude catch up with you.
- notart666 4y agoAh yes the nobody wants to do it to me excuse. Until you piss off the wrong person and you suddenly crash into the railing and die in an 'accident'. In a more Orwellian world. It can be used to assassinate dissidents or individuals who speak out against authoritarian regimes. It's just a tool in a box, but it's one that's simple, easy to use, and leaves no evidence.
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- burnished 4y agoOh, Ada Palmer’s ‘Too Like The Lightning’ has this as an element.
- codetrotter 4y ago> leaves no evidence For a “car crash” I agree. But if my laundry folding robot stabs me to death in my sleep, I hope that at the very least it raises some eyebrows :^)
- ROTMetro 4y agoI always felt like the HL7 interface is a huge vector for this. Change someone's medicine allergies, blood type, etc.
- tylervigen 4y agoBut that’s true with or without the AI. Anyone could decide they want to kill you. Most of the time we rely on “not everyone wanting to kill everyone else” to get by.
- qbrass 4y agoThey can't get bluetooth to connect.
- tryauuum 4y agojust unplug the robot before you go to sleep, an easy solution
- kache_ 4y agocars are great until someone deliberately runs into me
- autoexec 4y agoNo way would I bring some company's robot into my house, especially not one that has anything to do with Google. Maybe it does your laundry and dishes for you, but you can bet that it'll be recording everything that it sees and hears and sending all that data back to the people it actually works for so that they can use that data against you or sell it to someone else who will. Unless I can find a model I can verify has zero networking ability and isn't gathering and storing data for somebody else, no thanks!
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- danwee 4y agoI just want some AI that can cut my hair, exactly the way I want it.
- amelius 4y agoOr cook a meal. Much more useful than driving a car, because in a car you're mostly idling anyway so you might as well drive.
- codeyperson 4y agoBut if the car drove itself, we could cook meals in the car...
- amelius 4y agoUnfortunately, doing stuff while being subjected to random accelerating forces makes many people feel nauseous, and physical tasks become more difficult.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y agowhy? in what world are you so busy that you dont have "enough time" to go to your home, take time to unwind, clean up after a day's work, cook a meal for you and your family and enjoy a family dinner/lunch/breakfast?" replace cooking with laundry/cleaning/bathing/repairing/small fixes around the home? is life REALLY SO FAST AND TOUGH that you have to do multi-tasking basic human social/personal proceses?
- coffeebeqn 4y agoThese are much more robotics problems. The “AI” is probably sufficient as long as it has the correct sensors and dexterity
- amelius 4y agoIf this were true, restaurants would already have these robots. Also, I'm talking about real cooking, not some mechanized approximation that produces meals akin to fast food, or the microwave stuff you can already buy in the supermarket.
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- jmmcd 4y agoFrom what I see, most people are just calling it "posting" now. So, time to identify another reason not to use Mastodon!
- listenallyall 4y agoTo avoid the smugness of Mastodon advocates
- zzzeek 4y agoWell. You will be missed
- uptown 4y agoTootles!
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- taneq 4y agoThat’s because folding laundry is way, way harder. I think it’ll be a long time before automated laundry folding is commercially viable at household scale (factory scale is another matter) simply because as other, easier, more lucrative activities are automated, the cost of “unskilled” human labour will be driven down faster than the cost of the equipment required to fold laundry.
- throwaway6734 4y agoOne interesting idea I saw somewhere on the internet was that we might see a return to more mechanical/hands on professions while low level white collar jobs get destroyed in the same way old factory jobs did.
- taikahessu 4y agoYou put AI to create some shit for you. Sell it. Hire a cleaner, lawnmover whatever. Or better yet, make AI to sell that shit and let it hire those people. We’re not very far from some Satoshi putting it all together.
- whatshisface 4y agoIf you can just tell the AI to create something, so can all of your customers, and they know exactly what they want from it.
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- dweekly 4y agoI was impressed with FoldiMate's approach here and really liked the CEO, Gal, but unfortunately the founder foundered and FoldiMate folded, mate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FoldiMate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FoldiMate
- number6 4y agoFrom Wikipedia: FoldiMate was a California-based company developing a robotic laundry-folding machine founded in 2012. Their clothes folding machine was aimed to enter the market by the end of 2019. *In 2021, the company folded*. Emphasis is mine. Great Pun!
- happytiger 4y agoYes, but I want an AI that tells me what kind of laundry folding machine to build, or better yet designs it for me. That's where we're going.
- zzzeek 4y agothat's what I'm talking about. I think AI would approach "laundry folding" in ways we never thought of, using simpler machinery than would have been expected in novel ways. this is pretty specific to something very geometric / topological like folding things.
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- zppln 4y agoI'd be happy just to have the moving of wet clothes from the washing machine into the tumbler automated. But not even this science can provide. :(
- corobo 4y agoI've had a combo washer dryer ever since moving out of my parents place lol You gotta also buy the things science provides!
- LBJsPNS 4y agoI prefer the Unix approach - single function appliances that do a single job well.
- corobo 4y agoAye sorta like how we all use a separate PC per app :P Each to their own, I had plenty of folks saying they're bad and break often but I've never had one do a bad job assuming it's being maintained - cleaning lint traps, not overloading it, descaling the system now and then (hard water area) So damn convenient to chuck a load in before bed and come back in the morning to nicely clean and still toasty warm clothes ready to go
- mejutoco 4y agoI want AI that separates the trash into plastics, metal, etc. so we do not have to do it (or for the people that cannot be bothered to do it).
- 5amdotis 4y agoIn a big city in the Netherlands we stopped collecting plastic, metals separately. This because there are better machines now that reach higher accuracy levels.
- graphe 4y agoThere’s not much profit in hardware. Mechanics and robotics are expensive.