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Maybe you should be sickened by actual real problems that AI might be able to fix. Starvation, disease, dangerous manual labor. These are just some of the thing

• vouaobrasil 4y ago
  I seriously doubt AI will be able to fix any of these problems. In fact, it seems like it will just cause more problems. Starvation can already be fixed by today's technology. People who are starving are not starving because of a lack of technology for example, but rather because of the socio-economic situation of their country. AI might help fix disease but if it really can make progress towards disease, it certainly won't stop there and it will help us extend lifespans too, and everyone being super-healthy for hundreds of years can't be a good thing for overpopulation. I think you can easily just say "here's problem XYZ, let's use AI". Well, that's a rather lazy argument because it's hard to envision how AI will help and moreover, I think the onus should be on the inventors of AI to really demonstrate that it does anything useful at all, because it's not at all clear how it can help anyone.
  • mrits 4y ago
    "I seriously doubt AI will be able to fix any of these problems." Remind me 100 years
    • survirtual 4y ago
      I am flabbergasted that an opinion like the post you’re responding to is held by anyone. AI has the potential to eliminate all menial tasks of humanity. If use benevolently, it can free everyone from poverty, and enable an unprecedented era of human experience. True human experience. Discovery of self and our true place in the universe, without worry of material concern. No worry of disease, hunger, shelter — an age of boundless abundance. It can be endowed to embody our best traits. All the thousands of years of accumulated wisdom, distilled into an intelligence working with the whole of humanity for good. Change like this can be scary for people who are already comfortable; I get it. But most people in my generation and younger do not have a future without radical innovation. Most of us don’t have homes, don’t have families, don’t have any prospect but slaving away in servitude until we die. I prefer freedom.
      • hxugufjfjf 4y ago
        Is this a copypasta? It kind of reads like one.
        • survirtual 4y ago
          Sorry to disappoint you, but these are my real views.
      • vouaobrasil 4y ago
        I don't think it's a mere opinion. I think with enough documentation and research you can show that the costs will likely outweigh the benefits, but of course it's how you define what's a benefit. I guess you like the idea of all menial tasks being eliminated. I submit that some menial tasks are necessary to have a fulfilling life, and that a limited set of resources is actually better for society. Most people begin to feel boredom and useless if they have nothing essential to do with their lives. Moreover, an era of abundance is simply impossible without us crushing the natural world...at this point we are just throwing mud and not using actual data, but I think if we did, we would find that your Star Trek utopia is exceptionally unlikely given the way we are going.
        • survirtual 4y ago
          I think the Star Trek utopia is not only likely, but inevitable. We just have a difference of opinion and perspective. We live in a dark time, but that course can change in an instant. We should be focused on leaving Earth and designating this entire planet a national park, to be preserved and protected. When I say “menial tasks are eliminated”, I am speaking towards essentials that no one would want to do without money. We can shift to a voluntary society. What you are saying is not fair to people who have no choices. No choice but to starve. No choice but addiction. No choice but to endlessly work deadend jobs. No choice but to be battered and beaten by dictators. No choice but to live subject to the whims of narcissists. When you have the privilege of livable wages, respect in industry, wealthy social connections, none of what I’m saying would make much sense. But the vast majority of people have none of that, and are dreaming of a day when they are liberated from the rigors of tasks they never wanted to do. People can still do art, can still woodwork, can still perform amazing feats of will, can still invent, can still discover, can still do all manner of things. They just will not longer be forced to against their will to survive; and, at minimum, they won’t be forced to by the whims of other humans who have, by circumstance and tradition, appointed themselves ruler.
  • stevenhuang 4y ago
    > it's hard to envision how AI will help you should really, really read some sci-fi for inspiration
    • vouaobrasil 4y ago
      So I guess I should start with Battlestar Galactica or 2001, A Space Odyssey? I have read and watched plenty of sci-fi, as well as read many critiques of the effects of technology on humanity. I have also given it a lot of personal thought and my conclusion stands.
    • revolvingocelot 4y ago
      Consider the entire genre of cyberpunk.