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I mean just call it as it is: totally that. He’s so thin skinned and petty. He spent 44bil of various people’s money to do what, exactly? Apart from own the lib

I mean just call it as it is: totally that. He’s so thin skinned and petty. He spent 44bil of various people’s money to do what, exactly? Apart from own the libs, that is

Forgeties79 4y ago
It’s only taken what? Weeks? For him to show that the moderation policy wasn’t the problem. He just cared about whose finger was on the button.
Teever 4y ago
Elon is a cokehead who just bought the biggest cartel. We're watching a horrible social media addiction rage out of control in a person who has too many resources and power for anyone to tell him 'no'. Elon was probably always a POS but on some level I feel bad for him like I feel bad for Notch. all that money, power, and opportunity and they can't help but to spend it all terminally online bickering with other terminally online people. People don't choose to be like this.
- api 4y ago
  I remember forum mod wars in the 2000s. Never thought there'd be billion dollar mod wars.
- Firmwarrior 4y ago
  I don't feel too bad for him If I got that first huge multimillion dollar payout he hit early in his career, I would've stopped there. I'd still just be quietly living in a modest house in a small town decades later His twisted, broken personality is what enabled him to become a billionaire in the first place
  - SauciestGNU 4y ago
    Don't forget the birth lottery! I've lived in South Africa, and I've seen first-hand the human consequences of the policies that built his family wealth.
- wkat4242 4y ago
  I see a lot of parallels with Freenode. That was also running totally fine before a rich guy claimed ownership and started changing everything to his will, though the users were perfectly satisfied with how things were running till then. People started to leave which annoyed him and he started to make ever more rules and eventually deleted all the channels. Which means that reputable channels for open-source projects were now owned by randos who just happened to be the first to join after the reboot. Chaos ensued. The Twitter drama feels very similar. And that's not a good sign if we look at how Freenode played out. Freenode is now a fringe network. The previous management simply started a new network called Libera and two weeks later it was like the whole thing had never happened, just under a different name. Twitter is a lot bigger sure but big things can fall too. And they have for lesser reasons. Think Yahoo or MySpace. A lot of these owners seem to forget that the users are on their platform by free will. There is nothing tieing them down and it's only the tiny hassle of creating a new account that's a barrier to move.
georgeg23 4y ago
>> to do what, exactly? Elon's primary motivation, his 'Roko's Basilisk', is a massive DoD program, which requires Republicans to fund. Twitter helps him curry favors to earn these (potentially ~$1-2T) Republican-backed contracts. Mike Griffin is the ringleader but he's only useful when Republicans are in power (see parts about Elon and Space Development Agency / SDI). https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Griffin#Career https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Griffin#Career The DoD program is a space constellation of ballistic missile defense satellites for tracking and targeting nuclear ballistic missiles, including HGVs and hypersonic cruise missiles".[110] " However, (UCS) warns developments could escalate tensions with Russia and China and called the project "fundamentally destabilizing".[111] They later called for a treaty halting development to prevent an arms race in space.[112] Starlink's military satellite development is overseen internally at SpaceX by retired four-star general Terrence J. O'Shaughnessy.[113][114] O'Shaughnessy advocated before the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services for a layered space capability with lethal follow-on that incorporates machine learning and artificial intelligence to gather and act upon sensor data quickly.[115] More info / references: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  > O'Shaughnessy advocated before the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services for a layered space capability with lethal follow-on that incorporates machine learning and artificial intelligence to gather and act upon sensor data quickly So basically a doomsday machine. I understand the need for quick reaction but I really really would like to see a human in the chain to push the button. We've come way too close before like the Cuban crisis and Able Archer more specifically where all the data was screaming war but cool heads prevailed. Trust the world in the hands of an AI? Please no.
  - Finnucane 4y ago
    >So basically a doomsday machine. The whole point of a doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret!
mikrotikker 4y ago
Did you hear about the twitter files? It shows some pretty serious election interference and also shows how various staff either lied directly to congress.
- alphabettsy 4y ago
  Pretty serious, huh? I don’t think we read the same thing. Excusing the selective leaking and the motivated journalists who have access to the documents to present a narrative through their view, the conversations to me revealed careful consideration and discussion rather than the vast conspiracy it’s presented as.
- orwin 4y ago
  As long as we only get one carefully currated version, i call bullshit. Don't you agree that the taibbi posts are extremely suspect? I thought the V2 would add context but its more of the same. I know plenty of accounts (and people) attacking the libs and advocating for action, one in particular active in RedneckRevolt, who were banned on way less hateful things (one helped find gunrange and explained how to make AP rounds). Reading about the internal mails of people at Twitter who chose to ban educational, pro-BPP accounts explaining to soft lefties why guns are good, and letting Proud boys and libsofticktocks who did the same without bans... Heh. If it was both side (right and left) against the libs, why not, but this feel like propping up one side only.

I mean just call it as it is: totally that. He’s so thin skinned and petty. He spent 44bil of various people’s money to do what, exactly? Apart from own the libs, that is

Forgeties79 4y ago

It’s only taken what? Weeks? For him to show that the moderation policy wasn’t the problem. He just cared about whose finger was on the button.

Teever 4y ago

Elon is a cokehead who just bought the biggest cartel. We're watching a horrible social media addiction rage out of control in a person who has too many resources and power for anyone to tell him 'no'. Elon was probably always a POS but on some level I feel bad for him like I feel bad for Notch. all that money, power, and opportunity and they can't help but to spend it all terminally online bickering with other terminally online people. People don't choose to be like this.

api 4y ago
I remember forum mod wars in the 2000s. Never thought there'd be billion dollar mod wars.
Firmwarrior 4y ago
I don't feel too bad for him If I got that first huge multimillion dollar payout he hit early in his career, I would've stopped there. I'd still just be quietly living in a modest house in a small town decades later His twisted, broken personality is what enabled him to become a billionaire in the first place
- SauciestGNU 4y ago
  Don't forget the birth lottery! I've lived in South Africa, and I've seen first-hand the human consequences of the policies that built his family wealth.
wkat4242 4y ago
I see a lot of parallels with Freenode. That was also running totally fine before a rich guy claimed ownership and started changing everything to his will, though the users were perfectly satisfied with how things were running till then. People started to leave which annoyed him and he started to make ever more rules and eventually deleted all the channels. Which means that reputable channels for open-source projects were now owned by randos who just happened to be the first to join after the reboot. Chaos ensued. The Twitter drama feels very similar. And that's not a good sign if we look at how Freenode played out. Freenode is now a fringe network. The previous management simply started a new network called Libera and two weeks later it was like the whole thing had never happened, just under a different name. Twitter is a lot bigger sure but big things can fall too. And they have for lesser reasons. Think Yahoo or MySpace. A lot of these owners seem to forget that the users are on their platform by free will. There is nothing tieing them down and it's only the tiny hassle of creating a new account that's a barrier to move.

georgeg23 4y ago

>> to do what, exactly? Elon's primary motivation, his 'Roko's Basilisk', is a massive DoD program, which requires Republicans to fund. Twitter helps him curry favors to earn these (potentially ~$1-2T) Republican-backed contracts. Mike Griffin is the ringleader but he's only useful when Republicans are in power (see parts about Elon and Space Development Agency / SDI). https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Griffin#Career https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Griffin#Career The DoD program is a space constellation of ballistic missile defense satellites for tracking and targeting nuclear ballistic missiles, including HGVs and hypersonic cruise missiles".[110] " However, (UCS) warns developments could escalate tensions with Russia and China and called the project "fundamentally destabilizing".[111] They later called for a treaty halting development to prevent an arms race in space.[112] Starlink's military satellite development is overseen internally at SpaceX by retired four-star general Terrence J. O'Shaughnessy.[113][114] O'Shaughnessy advocated before the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services for a layered space capability with lethal follow-on that incorporates machine learning and artificial intelligence to gather and act upon sensor data quickly.[115] More info / references: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities

GekkePrutser 4y ago
> O'Shaughnessy advocated before the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services for a layered space capability with lethal follow-on that incorporates machine learning and artificial intelligence to gather and act upon sensor data quickly So basically a doomsday machine. I understand the need for quick reaction but I really really would like to see a human in the chain to push the button. We've come way too close before like the Cuban crisis and Able Archer more specifically where all the data was screaming war but cool heads prevailed. Trust the world in the hands of an AI? Please no.
- Finnucane 4y ago
  >So basically a doomsday machine. The whole point of a doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret!

mikrotikker 4y ago

Did you hear about the twitter files? It shows some pretty serious election interference and also shows how various staff either lied directly to congress.

alphabettsy 4y ago
Pretty serious, huh? I don’t think we read the same thing. Excusing the selective leaking and the motivated journalists who have access to the documents to present a narrative through their view, the conversations to me revealed careful consideration and discussion rather than the vast conspiracy it’s presented as.
orwin 4y ago
As long as we only get one carefully currated version, i call bullshit. Don't you agree that the taibbi posts are extremely suspect? I thought the V2 would add context but its more of the same. I know plenty of accounts (and people) attacking the libs and advocating for action, one in particular active in RedneckRevolt, who were banned on way less hateful things (one helped find gunrange and explained how to make AP rounds). Reading about the internal mails of people at Twitter who chose to ban educational, pro-BPP accounts explaining to soft lefties why guns are good, and letting Proud boys and libsofticktocks who did the same without bans... Heh. If it was both side (right and left) against the libs, why not, but this feel like propping up one side only.