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Well fortunately Tesla has a laser-focused CEO that is devoting his time to making sure a feature which he clearly stated was absolutely critical is being respo

Well fortunately Tesla has a laser-focused CEO that is devoting his time to making sure a feature which he clearly stated was absolutely critical is being responsibly developed and marketed. Really grateful for that—I’d hate to think this publicly traded company that had a sky-high valuation that was, in part, based off this promise was being led by somebody who is off in the weeds worried about social media or something.

ncr100 4y ago
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chillbill 4y ago
People have attributed a lot of overinflated image to Musk and his effects and skills over the years, regarding Tesla, SpaceX, and other companies of his. They still are doing so about this Twitter thing. It’s all a nothing burger.
jeffbee 4y ago
It must take a lot of time and attention to manage Elon. Perhaps Tesla will succeed a bit more while he is distracted.
- justapassenger 4y ago
  Tesla can. But TSLA won’t, and Elon spent last 10 years making sure that their stock market value and success as a company are deeply interconnected.
coolbreezetft22 4y ago
At this point I'd imagine Tesla is better off with Musk being distracted by his shiny new toy. Though I'd be concerned about the effect he is having on their brand image. Even two years ago I was on the verge of buying a Tesla but ended up cancelling my order in large part because I just couldn't stand the obnoxiousness of Elon and he has gotten orders of magnitude worse since then. His new "demographic"/cult also seem to be climate change / green energy skeptics, not convinced they will be gobbling up Teslas at quite the same rate as my demographic would.
- gitfan86 4y ago
  It is totally fine if you don't like Elon, but in the real world there isn't an EV that is cheap and available and has a good charging network. The ID4 is decent but that company was started by actual Hitler and Nazis, so if you are interested in not buying from companies that have a history of evil leadership that one isn't a good option. And gas cars are not good for CO2 emissions, so sometimes you have to accept that you sometime buy products made by companies that have executives you don't like. And realistically I find it very unlikely that every product you buy on a regular basis today is run by people who have much better morals and politics than Elon.
  - slg 4y ago
    > The ID4 is decent but that company was started by actual Hitler and Nazis, so if you are interested in not buying from companies that have a history of evil leadership that one isn't a good option. This is a wild comment. The current leadership is slightly more important than the leadership 80 years ago. It is especially strange considering you could have made moral arguments against that company based off much more recent misdeeds.
    - coolbreezetft22 4y ago
      Yep, there was 'diesel-gate' back in the early-mid 2010s and even today the way the company overlooks the behavior of the Chinese government is also very unsavory (a problem Elon has as well)
    - sgt101 4y ago
      Also I don't wear Hugo Boss because they made the uniforms for the SS. And... Hugo Boss suits make me look like a wardrobe on legs... and are too expensive... but for sure the SS thing.
  - ryantgtg 4y ago
    Shell/Chevron/Exxon/etc vs Elon. Hmm, let me think…
  - coolbreezetft22 4y ago
fnordpiglet 4y ago
Fired.
demarq 4y ago
> responsibly developed and marketed It is not being developed It has been irresponsibly marketed as this is the entire premise of the class action. It sounds like he is laser focused on impressive promises to lure investments into his money making empire.
- alexcosan 4y ago
  I'm very confident the whole comment by OP is of sarcastic nature
  - demarq 4y ago
    Poe's Law striketh
slg 4y ago
Good thing that this publicly traded company hasn’t loaned out employees to other unrelated businesses which happen to be owned by their CEO. I’d that happened, I would worry about the distraction being more widespread than just the CEO.
- electrondood 4y ago
  Employees at Musk companies have the freedom to moonlight, or even transfer entirely. Tesla benefits from SpaceX materials engineering, for example. Tesla now effectively has access to a massive comms/PR engine, with far more reach than traditional advertising, without paying gatekeepers. Ford spends $2B a year on advertising. Elon can reply directly to Tesla owners.
  - fundad 4y ago
    Their more I interested in DMs and inside info on ad buys
  - michaelbuckbee 4y ago
    The issues are the mixing of company and personal funds. If you're an investor in Tesla and Musk pulls 50 engineers from the Autopilot team to come work at Twitter [1]. How exactly are you benefitting from that? Autopilot development just pauses for the team to go work on blue check implementations? 1 - https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-than-50-tesla-engineers-into-twitter.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-th...
option 4y ago
his duty as CEO is to deliver value for shareholders. He has been doing OK so far ;)
watwut 4y ago
I am genuinely convinced Tesla is better off when Musk is focusing on something else instead of managing it. Tesla need Musks public charizma, his money, his connections and him bullying everyone who stands in a way. Sure, especially his ability to convince public about dreams is super key aspect. But, his management style and the way he runs things seems to be something company needs to protect itself from.

ncr100 4y ago

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chillbill 4y ago

People have attributed a lot of overinflated image to Musk and his effects and skills over the years, regarding Tesla, SpaceX, and other companies of his. They still are doing so about this Twitter thing. It’s all a nothing burger.

jeffbee 4y ago

It must take a lot of time and attention to manage Elon. Perhaps Tesla will succeed a bit more while he is distracted.

justapassenger 4y ago
Tesla can. But TSLA won’t, and Elon spent last 10 years making sure that their stock market value and success as a company are deeply interconnected.

coolbreezetft22 4y ago

At this point I'd imagine Tesla is better off with Musk being distracted by his shiny new toy. Though I'd be concerned about the effect he is having on their brand image. Even two years ago I was on the verge of buying a Tesla but ended up cancelling my order in large part because I just couldn't stand the obnoxiousness of Elon and he has gotten orders of magnitude worse since then. His new "demographic"/cult also seem to be climate change / green energy skeptics, not convinced they will be gobbling up Teslas at quite the same rate as my demographic would.

gitfan86 4y ago
It is totally fine if you don't like Elon, but in the real world there isn't an EV that is cheap and available and has a good charging network. The ID4 is decent but that company was started by actual Hitler and Nazis, so if you are interested in not buying from companies that have a history of evil leadership that one isn't a good option. And gas cars are not good for CO2 emissions, so sometimes you have to accept that you sometime buy products made by companies that have executives you don't like. And realistically I find it very unlikely that every product you buy on a regular basis today is run by people who have much better morals and politics than Elon.
- slg 4y ago
  > The ID4 is decent but that company was started by actual Hitler and Nazis, so if you are interested in not buying from companies that have a history of evil leadership that one isn't a good option. This is a wild comment. The current leadership is slightly more important than the leadership 80 years ago. It is especially strange considering you could have made moral arguments against that company based off much more recent misdeeds.
  - coolbreezetft22 4y ago
    Yep, there was 'diesel-gate' back in the early-mid 2010s and even today the way the company overlooks the behavior of the Chinese government is also very unsavory (a problem Elon has as well)
  - sgt101 4y ago
    Also I don't wear Hugo Boss because they made the uniforms for the SS. And... Hugo Boss suits make me look like a wardrobe on legs... and are too expensive... but for sure the SS thing.
- ryantgtg 4y ago
  Shell/Chevron/Exxon/etc vs Elon. Hmm, let me think…
- coolbreezetft22 4y ago

fnordpiglet 4y ago

Fired.

demarq 4y ago

> responsibly developed and marketed It is not being developed It has been irresponsibly marketed as this is the entire premise of the class action. It sounds like he is laser focused on impressive promises to lure investments into his money making empire.

alexcosan 4y ago
I'm very confident the whole comment by OP is of sarcastic nature
- demarq 4y ago
  Poe's Law striketh

slg 4y ago

Good thing that this publicly traded company hasn’t loaned out employees to other unrelated businesses which happen to be owned by their CEO. I’d that happened, I would worry about the distraction being more widespread than just the CEO.

electrondood 4y ago
Employees at Musk companies have the freedom to moonlight, or even transfer entirely. Tesla benefits from SpaceX materials engineering, for example. Tesla now effectively has access to a massive comms/PR engine, with far more reach than traditional advertising, without paying gatekeepers. Ford spends $2B a year on advertising. Elon can reply directly to Tesla owners.
- fundad 4y ago
  Their more I interested in DMs and inside info on ad buys
- michaelbuckbee 4y ago
  The issues are the mixing of company and personal funds. If you're an investor in Tesla and Musk pulls 50 engineers from the Autopilot team to come work at Twitter [1]. How exactly are you benefitting from that? Autopilot development just pauses for the team to go work on blue check implementations? 1 - https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-than-50-tesla-engineers-into-twitter.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/elon-musk-has-pulled-more-th...

option 4y ago

his duty as CEO is to deliver value for shareholders. He has been doing OK so far ;)

watwut 4y ago

I am genuinely convinced Tesla is better off when Musk is focusing on something else instead of managing it. Tesla need Musks public charizma, his money, his connections and him bullying everyone who stands in a way. Sure, especially his ability to convince public about dreams is super key aspect. But, his management style and the way he runs things seems to be something company needs to protect itself from.