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I would prefer to use RedHat based distros but their lack of official non free repos annoy me - I don’t want to add a community repo, I want packages maintained

I would prefer to use RedHat based distros but their lack of official non free repos annoy me - I don’t want to add a community repo, I want packages maintained by trusted core engineers. Sure the community repos probably have that, but I last I checked I couldn’t find any assurance on the security of the community repos. SBOMs don’t mean shit if you’re installing stuff from random no-assurance locations.

ilyt 4y ago
Then you want Debian. We've had FAR less problems with Debians than anything from Red Hat stable
- MisterTea 4y ago
  I've used a bunch of Linux distros over the years and always find myself installing Debian when I just want a desktop.
  - hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
    I’m currently on Ubuntu and have considered Debian. I like the concept of containerisation (snap, flatpack, etc) but the overly pushy snap integration has broken my workflows in multiple situations without much redemption so maybe I will give it a try.
    - throw_a_grenade 4y ago
      If you want "just desktop" like grandparent, you can try https://linuxmint.com/ https://linuxmint.com/, it's downstream from Ubuntu LTS, but with bad stuff (snap) removed: https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/snap.html https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/snap.h...
      - hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
        Yeah I’m all for those distros, but as I work in security industry i kind of feel like a ‘nobody ever got fired for buying an ibm approach’ is good. If I’m hacked it’s not a good look at all, if im hacked and use an esoteric distro like gentoo, it would certainly look much, much worse. My key pain point is trust within repos, Ubuntu audit their repos as best they can (sast/sanity check) so at least there’s some security there. Im otherwise very supportive of mint/arch/gentoo and similar systems.
        fsflover 4y ago
        Perhaps if you care about not being hacked, you could try Qubes OS, which is secirity-oriented.
  - krylon 4y ago
    I won't yell at people who prefer something else after giving it a try. But I do like it a lot. On occasions, I had trouble with very new hardware, but all in all, it works very well for me. Does the job, and without drama.
GrinningFool 4y ago
Aren't those assurances what you get by paying red hat?
- hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
  No, paying RedHat gets you support, not an official proprietary blob repo

ilyt 4y ago

Then you want Debian. We've had FAR less problems with Debians than anything from Red Hat stable

MisterTea 4y ago
I've used a bunch of Linux distros over the years and always find myself installing Debian when I just want a desktop.
- hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
  I’m currently on Ubuntu and have considered Debian. I like the concept of containerisation (snap, flatpack, etc) but the overly pushy snap integration has broken my workflows in multiple situations without much redemption so maybe I will give it a try.
  - throw_a_grenade 4y ago
    If you want "just desktop" like grandparent, you can try https://linuxmint.com/ https://linuxmint.com/, it's downstream from Ubuntu LTS, but with bad stuff (snap) removed: https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/snap.html https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/snap.h...
    - hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
      Yeah I’m all for those distros, but as I work in security industry i kind of feel like a ‘nobody ever got fired for buying an ibm approach’ is good. If I’m hacked it’s not a good look at all, if im hacked and use an esoteric distro like gentoo, it would certainly look much, much worse. My key pain point is trust within repos, Ubuntu audit their repos as best they can (sast/sanity check) so at least there’s some security there. Im otherwise very supportive of mint/arch/gentoo and similar systems.
      - fsflover 4y ago
        Perhaps if you care about not being hacked, you could try Qubes OS, which is secirity-oriented.
- krylon 4y ago
  I won't yell at people who prefer something else after giving it a try. But I do like it a lot. On occasions, I had trouble with very new hardware, but all in all, it works very well for me. Does the job, and without drama.

GrinningFool 4y ago

Aren't those assurances what you get by paying red hat?

hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
No, paying RedHat gets you support, not an official proprietary blob repo