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Why aren't they on this? They should be at the forefront. I'm sure in some corner of Google they have a plan... but that plan hasn't penetrated my sphere of awa

by djmips 4y ago

Why aren't they on this? They should be at the forefront. I'm sure in some corner of Google they have a plan... but that plan hasn't penetrated my sphere of awareness yet.

amelius 4y ago
It's probably because they don't have the compute resources for this yet. I guess it would require a huge investment in hardware to release this to the masses. Perhaps it is even prohibitively expensive.
- adamckay 4y ago
  You're talking about the same Google that runs Google Cloud Platform? If OpenAI have (the budget for) the hardware, then Google certainly do.
  - amelius 4y ago
    > If OpenAI have (the budget for) the hardware, then Google certainly do. The number of people using Google Search is easily 1000x larger than the number of people using OpenAI, if not more.
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    - layla5alive 4y ago
      Add a few zeros...
kolinko 4y ago
They tackle different things - alphafold, dall-e, etc
derangedHorse 4y ago
OpenAI has been making the most noise online because of how open they've made their recent chatbot, but Google has been on this for a while. Earlier this year they had a blog post [1] about LaMDA which doesn't seem too far off in capability from OpenAI's projects. They've also made a lot of other strides in their research [2] that kind of goes under the radar because they haven't been synthesized into products yet (at least not in the ways we'd expect them to). [1] https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/01/lamda-towards-safe-grounded-and-high.html https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/01/lamda-towards-safe-grounde... [2] https://ai.googleblog.com/ https://ai.googleblog.com/
- amelius 4y ago
  Even if Google has been on it their search engine dominance won't last long if the research is out in the open.
  - machiaweliczny 4y ago
    They have data moat, from Analytics and history of searches
baq 4y ago
Or… they do work on it and haven’t published their results. Either because they’re not good enough - out because they’re better than expected. I’ll leave it for you to decide which is the pessimistic option. (Google project pitchfork.)

by djmips 4y ago

Why aren't they on this? They should be at the forefront. I'm sure in some corner of Google they have a plan... but that plan hasn't penetrated my sphere of awareness yet.

amelius 4y ago

It's probably because they don't have the compute resources for this yet. I guess it would require a huge investment in hardware to release this to the masses. Perhaps it is even prohibitively expensive.

adamckay 4y ago
You're talking about the same Google that runs Google Cloud Platform? If OpenAI have (the budget for) the hardware, then Google certainly do.
- amelius 4y ago
  > If OpenAI have (the budget for) the hardware, then Google certainly do. The number of people using Google Search is easily 1000x larger than the number of people using OpenAI, if not more.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - layla5alive 4y ago
    Add a few zeros...

kolinko 4y ago

They tackle different things - alphafold, dall-e, etc

derangedHorse 4y ago

OpenAI has been making the most noise online because of how open they've made their recent chatbot, but Google has been on this for a while. Earlier this year they had a blog post [1] about LaMDA which doesn't seem too far off in capability from OpenAI's projects. They've also made a lot of other strides in their research [2] that kind of goes under the radar because they haven't been synthesized into products yet (at least not in the ways we'd expect them to). [1] https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/01/lamda-towards-safe-grounded-and-high.html https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/01/lamda-towards-safe-grounde... [2] https://ai.googleblog.com/ https://ai.googleblog.com/

amelius 4y ago
Even if Google has been on it their search engine dominance won't last long if the research is out in the open.
- machiaweliczny 4y ago
  They have data moat, from Analytics and history of searches

baq 4y ago

Or… they do work on it and haven’t published their results. Either because they’re not good enough - out because they’re better than expected. I’ll leave it for you to decide which is the pessimistic option. (Google project pitchfork.)