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Well...I mean yeah, sure. Why not? Hey, let's throw systemd in there while we're at it. Anything to procrastinate on adding a good editor to it, right?
by rnd0 4y ago
Well...I mean yeah, sure. Why not?
Hey, let's throw systemd in there while we're at it.
Anything to procrastinate on adding a good editor to it, right?
- nequo 4y agoIt already has a good editor. It’s called evil mode: https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil
- gnull 4y agoIs Kakoune mode anywhere in sight?
- yw3410 4y agoThere's meow-mode and others.
- LanternLight83 4y agoChecking this out, thanks!
- sping 4y agoAre there any good Emacs jokes that aren't based on ignorance of Emacs?
- donio 4y agoEight Megabytes and Constantly Swapping is pretty funny now that everything else needs several GB of memory. (But to be fair even a minimal Emacs is about 20MB RSS these days).
- mftb 4y agoHmm, I can't get an RSS that small even with -nw (to use the client TUI), but leaving that aside, on my box just running GNU Emacs normally I get 88MB RSS, so maybe we just need to update the acronym. ;)
- Gordonjcp 4y agoI think it's nuts that the Linux machine I run DaVinci Resolve on today has considerably more RAM than the Windows NT machine I used to use Premiere for editing on 22 years ago had hard disk space. Back then mine was the "scary" machine in the workshop with its AMD Duron 700 and a whopping 512MB of RAM... and Emacs was just about usable on it!
- ninjha01 4y agoI could come up with one, but I’m too busy rewriting my config to use a better package manager again.
- andreareina 4y agoOh no have we moved away from straight and use-package already?
- imaltont 4y agoEmacs 29 can download packages straight from their source too, so time to move back I guess.
- bloopernova 4y agoYou need to install yak-shave-mode to make that more efficient.
- rnd0 4y agoYes. https://xkcd.com/378/ https://xkcd.com/378/
- rnd0 4y agoThough technically it's a alpha nerd joke with an emacs punchline.
- donio 4y agoAnd it gets the keybinding wrong so it falls into the ignorance category. But at least we got M-x butterfly thanks to it.
- benj111 4y agoCan you get a keybinding wrong for a command that doesn't exist?
- Jorengarenar 4y agoWhat made you think it does not exist?
- andreareina 4y agoI'm partial to escape-meta-alt-control-shift
- funsevenshirt 4y ago> Are there any good Emacs jokes No, there aren't.
- distantsounds 4y agothe only ignorance is from you, not realizing how much better literally any other text editor is
- nequo 4y ago> literally any other text editor Have you tried literally every other text editor? I switched from Vim. In Emacs, I can inline previews of LaTeX formulas in the same buffer as the one that I am editing. This is possible because Emacs has a GUI. Vim cannot do this because it runs in the terminal, and it also doesn’t seem possible to do this in gVim. Meanwhile Emacs implements Vim’s modal editing through evil mode. So for this use case, Emacs seems to be strictly better than Vim.
- pvaldes 4y agoYup, those days of Joe and roses...
- jmclnx 4y agoWell I an sure it would be better that all the other existing Wayland Window Managers or Desktops :)
- donio 4y agoIf done right then yes, it will be. EXWM is the best X11 WM after all. Being able to treat X11 windows as Emacs buffers with the same buffer management mechanisms and keybindings is amazing.
- snickerer 4y agoEXWM sounds very cool. Thanks for the hint — I never heard about it. I use swayWM and Emacs (with frames instead of windows) and configured sway to have Emacs-style key bindings. So I mimicked EXWM behavior without knowing about EXWM.
- donio 4y agoIt's definitely worth a try. I used StumpWM for 10 years before switching to EXWM about 5 years ago. One great thing about merging the concepts of Emacs buffers and X11 windows is that there is only one set of keybindings you need to worry about (the Emacs ones).
- snickerer 4y agoI would immediately switch to EXWM if it would be Wayland-based.
- tmtvl 4y agoThe default editor in Emacs is entirely fine, at the very least it isn't a modal editor which is a really outdated paradigm which also doesn't make any sense when most of what you do with a text editor is typing in text. I used Vim for 5 years, tried various different editors (Atom, Geany, Kate,...), and now for the past 4 years I've been using Emacs. And I'm liking it a lot more than Vim (though that may have something to do with my switching from typing QWERTY to Dvorak).
- opan 4y agoI've been perfectly happy with vim binds using both dvorak and workman layouts. Sticking with it from the start when you're slowly relearning to type at all makes it feel normal in a week or two at most. The only meaningful change is hjkl since it's positional in qwerty. The other stuff was all over and based on mnemonics like d for delete. If you can get used to C-n, C-p, C-f, and C-b for emacs movement, hjkl shifting around is not at all harder. There's also the fact that in many cases you probably move around with something like e or w or the search rather than smaller hjkl movements. Modal editing has ergonomic benefits similar to Sticky Keys, I don't see anything dated about it. I'm not sure I agree writing is done the most either. Moving around is probably pretty high up there. It does depend on the file of course, but for config files or [video] playlist files you probably do more small edits and movements than writing of pure text. Writing email would be the other extreme.
- marcosdumay 4y ago> at the very least it isn't a modal editor which is a really outdated paradigm which also doesn't make any sense when most of what you do with a text editor is typing in text Hum... As an emacs user, I'm quite comfortable to disagree here. When in an editor, you want to both type text and run code. Vi only messes up on the emphasis for both cases (due to the legacy of descending from ed), but even emacs has a "run code" mode.