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Taiga: A free and open-source project management tool

238 points by gjvc 4y ago

estevaoam 4y ago
Interesting, we used Taiga long time ago (5 years?) and honestly it was too simple to what we needed. The UI was poor and the whole application was slow in general. Glad to see they’re still pushing the project forward though, every competition is healthy.
pmontra 4y ago
It looks similar to Kanbanize, which is the project management tool that I liked the most in the last 30 years.
- dotancohen 4y ago
  I'd love to know what you like about Kanbanize. I've tried everything, keep going back to Redmine again and again. Simple _just works_.
  - pmontra 4y ago
    I self host my own projects on Redmine but among all the tools that I had to use with my customers I like Kanbanize because the team could see the activities, open the cards, comment, move them to different columns. For one hundred open cards I prefer that to the list in Redmine. However we had many hundreds of open cards in a large backlog and a person spending a significant amount of time on keeping the project in a reasonable shape.
    - dotancohen 4y ago
      I see, thanks.
- tormeh 4y ago
  Somebody likes Kanbanize? Even Jira is better. Linear is where it's at, imo.
  - darkteflon 4y ago
    How does Linear compare to Jira, if you don’t mind?
    - tormeh 4y ago
      As a user the biggest difference is that Linear is really fast. Don't know the difference for admins.
dotancohen 4y ago
Why don't PageUp and PageDown work on this website? And why would I consider a tool that breaks a UI tenet in the first second of interaction with its marketing materials?
- tommiegannert 4y ago
  I'm on Linux Chrome and PgUp/Dn work well right after entering the site.
- petargyurov 4y ago
  Why is 1 small UI mistake is enough to put you off an entire product? Also, it works for me...
  - lelanthran 4y ago
    It works for me too, but to answer your question, if it was actually not working: > Why is 1 small UI mistake is enough to put you off an entire product? Because removing the page-up/down functionality requires extra work. If the developer is performing extra work in order to make the UI worse, then their UI decisions in general are likely to be equally crap. In this particular case, however, it works ...
    - Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
      > Because removing the page-up/down functionality requires extra work. 100% this Can someone PLEASE explain to me why front-end devs go out of their way to DISABLE features? Scrolling works fine. Having multiple ways to scroll is user-friendly and adds accessibility. Someone please explain to me why a dev is going to go "You know, I don't use Page Down/Page Up to scroll, so I'm going to spend time hooking into the Page Down/Page Up key presses so they can be thrown out and disable scrolling through those keys". EDIT: Page Up/Down work fine for me on that page btw. Using Chrome on a MacBook Pro.
  - dotancohen 4y ago
    > Why is 1 small UI mistake is enough to put you off an entire product? Because that tool is accessed via a web browser, same as the landing page.
KronisLV 4y ago
For my own needs, I still self-host and use OpenProject which appears to be this slightly clunky and slow but overall usable Rails app (used Kanboard for more lightweight organizational tasks before that). Haven't personally used Taiga, so can anyone comment on their impressions, maybe also compared to something like Redmine or Jira? What's good? What's annoying? What's missing?
- stayux 4y ago
  Still using Kanboard. It is sufficient for my team needs. For the rest is Slack.
  - anthropodie 4y ago
    If anyone is looking for boards then I recommend focalboard from mattermost
- adulion 4y ago
  i worked in a startup who where inexperienced and tried to save costs by using taiga. Once experienced people joined the team we switched to jira.
  - KronisLV 4y ago
    > Once experienced people joined the team we switched to jira. What was the benefit and the positive outcome from doing so, outside of familiarity with Jira? Conversely, what was problematic about the idea of sticking with Taiga or another solution, what would you miss out on? I think that every software has some shortcomings, like some people swear by Jira, others hate it, personally I can see both sides: it works, but at the same time the REST API has stuff like createmeta which you need to use for getting issue field types programmatically, except that there were breakages in the REST library between versions 8 and 9 of Jira as no data is returned even when you run those two versions with same config in parallel, though that's only applicable to their self-hostable solution which is different from their cloud solution, without getting into the licensing changes in the following years. I'm interested what you think about exact features or qualities that each has and how they compare.
dagi3d 4y ago
This is from the same company that is building Penpot, an open source design and prototyping tool ala Figma and others.
- taylorpalmer 4y ago
  Good eye!
college_physics 4y ago
one of these day I might have to upgrade from projectlibre :-)
atomicnature 4y ago
Is there any plan to support mobile devices? (or are there any mobile options already). I've noticed that for many personal software (note-taking, todo, etc), phone apps work better than their desktop counterparts.
unixhero 4y ago
I use Taiga, it works really well. I also used it to make money and it delivered.
- andruby 4y ago
  You "used it to make money". Would you care to elaborate? Do you just mean that you've used it in a profession setting, or do you mean something else?
  - unixhero 4y ago
    I used it in a professional setting with several team members. Taiga was a good choice and we were able to be productive and deliver the project. As such it was used to make money. As opposed to hobby purposes such as self host it and organize a road trip. It was also stable, we encountered no bugs and the solution did not get in our way in terms of user interface. It strikes a very good balance between features and simplicity.
    - unixhero 4y ago
      The fortune500 I worked at had Jira, but I couldnt be bothered with it.
ripdog 4y ago
Nice name collision with Taiga, the anime tracking client for Anilist and other sites.
- hackerman123469 4y ago
  The anime tracker came AFTER this project management tool. Taiga.io is from 2014, Taiga.moe is from 2015. At least those are the earliest presence of the two I could find.
- Karawebnetwork 4y ago
  Taiga is a category of boreal forests. Common words are bound to create collision, unless they share an industry there's not really any issue with that.
xrayarx 4y ago
The product is free for up to 15 users. There is a self hosting option. But the recommended option is self hosted but managed by Taiga. So to me it seems that this is more freemium. Also, there seems to be version 7 just around the corner. Technology used seem to include python, coffee script, postgres, django, redis among others
- projektfu 4y ago
  As long as all the features are available open source, I would say it’s free. Freemium would be like Odoo, where important parts of the software, such as accounting, are missing from the open source version.
- pabs3 4y ago
  So the SaaS is limited but the open source version isn't? That seems reasonable to me, as long as they don't deliberately make it harder to self-host.
- emsixteen 4y ago
  > The product is free for up to 15 users. Is that including if you self-host?
  - Jiocus 4y ago
    No limitations if self-hosted
- myfonj 4y ago
  Thanks for noting the tech stack, was the first think I was curious about. As for "freemium": as others pointed out, I'd also put it that as long as you can self-host full-fledged instance it's "free". Having possibility to use their "cloud" instance without charge with sole limitation of maximum 15 users is "more than free" from my point of view: they are basically paying your costs for running that. Sure, it might be negligible for them in scale, but still, as long as it saves you time and hosting costs (install and maintenance), it is a value *you* receive for free.
- rglullis 4y ago
Joel_Mckay 4y ago
I liked dotProject for internal use, and never exposed installs to the public/web: https://github.com/dotproject/dotProject https://github.com/dotproject/dotProject It is certainly legacy... Yet the small footprint works well for standalone ticket resolution databases, task assignment, and budget tracking. Practically speaking, one needs to consider how many staff will be on the interface at a time. A support database to cover user issue resolutions is part of product development. Having something you know will persist for a decade gets trickier.
holler 4y ago
10 years ago when Taiga was relatively new, I used to browse their source code to help learn how to build a solid api using django / django-rest-framework. They built a quality piece of software from the start and it was really helpful to learn patterns by looking at their code. Eventually they slowly replaced drf with their own implementation, cool to see it worked out.
- diacritica 4y ago
  Taiga was lunched as alpha in 2014. TaigaNext codebase comes from mid 2021 and will again be used by many devs around the world as best-practices reference, for sure!
  - holler 4y ago
    Ah ok had my timelines a bit off, so it was the year they launched in 2014 :D I just remember I somehow heard about it, maybe on HN(?), then started looking through their backend codebase and was impressed by it. One feature in particular I learned a lot from was their permission system, which I had never built before. It helped me reason about how to build permissions into an api.
    - hackerman123469 4y ago
      2014 is almost a decade ago anyway, only off by a little under 2 years.
      - holler 4y ago
        true! time starts to blur the older I get...
solarkraft 4y ago
It may be great if you look past this, but that it BLOCKS AND FLASHES THE WHOLE SCREEN while loading ANYTHING makes it impossible for me to use or recommend to anyone until this is resolved, it's so irritating. No other software does this for very good reasons. What were they thinking?!
Brajeshwar 4y ago
I have tried Taiga, and I love Penpot. Here is my take on tools such as Project Management, Sales CRM that are likely to be used by lot more people once you grow. Many Startups start with lot of other nicely designed, new, and good Sales CRM. Once they grow enough and becomes big (and successful), they all go to Salesforce. So, why not just start with it. I'm not against the other tools, they are good and they do their job. I personally love Hubspot for its UX amongst others. For Project Management, it becomes extremely difficult to convince people to move and change to another provider once people began to settle in. This is extremely hard in larger companies. I have used Jira when it was pretty bad. Recently, I checked it and it has improved a lot. It is free for unto 10-people. If your company grows, you will need to upgrade. You should always ask, "How much am I paying when I'm paying?" This is rather personal but I would start with the idea in mind that you will one day grow to 100+ people. And thus, which one will you use and work backwards and see if it has a cheap/free version to start with. So, why not start with something like Jira, or Basecamp (single pricing for n-users), etc. etc. Why? Last time I tried Taiga, it was pretty limiting. Everyone else have used Jira somehow, and I remember I could make Jira sing with its SQL-ish script.
solarkraft 4y ago
It looks to me like the former government of Afghanistan may have used Taiga and it was pretty important for their workflow: https://youtu.be/DWgCbUWHxMc?t=42m46s https://youtu.be/DWgCbUWHxMc?t=42m46s
pritambarhate 4y ago
Just looked into the code. Frontend is stuck on Angular 1.5. How unfortunate that long lasting projects like this are stuck on a unmaintained framework because the original maintainer changed their own course of action. This is one problem of building on top of frameworks. Someone else decides when your product needs to change.
- joseakel 4y ago
  I think that the problem affects a lot more the choice of front-end framewoks, specifically. Their creators don't really valuate at all backward compatibility, so it's very easy to get stuck in an older version.
  - 411111111111111 4y ago
    They're taking about angular here, it had basically one big upgrade from angularJS(1) to angularIO(2+) and that was 6 years ago. Your argument might be true, but angular would be an exception as it's is pretty backward compatible and even provides you with automated upgrade scripts (ng upgrade)
    - beart 4y ago
      Version 15 of Angular was recently released. I never worked with Angular 1.x., but try running `npm install` on an Angular 9 project and watch the deprecation and security warnings scroll by. I'm in the process of upgrading a complex mono-repo from Angular 9 to 15. The biggest issues are not Angular itself, but all of the other tooling built around it.
      - 411111111111111 4y ago
        I recently upgraded multiple repositories from 11 to 14 (all with ngrx/store) with no issues to speak of. Are you sure you used the upgrade scripts or did you just yolo style increase the angular version in the package.json to latest?
cguess 4y ago
I would never describe any university as the "most agile companies in the world" (they list ASU and UW as clients). I say that as someone who is and has been a researcher at numerous fairly prestigious ones over the year.
- martopix 4y ago
  Seconded. Actually after doing a couple of internships I learned soo much about how to do meetings, keep tracks of projects, etc. compared to academia.
  - jksmith 4y ago
    Interestingly, arguably THE most agile company in the world (Spacex) probably doesn't use any ALM tools as supported by the agile industry. Maybe a backlog tool in there somewhere, but I bet their bullshit footprint is pretty light.
  - laniakean 4y ago
    As someone who has only done internships in academia, is it possible to share some tips or point me to some good resources? Thank you
synergy20 4y ago
used redmine for a few years,will use again
LeSaucy 4y ago
I went to evaluate this vs leantime but it is quite involved requiring frontend/backend/load balancer/proxy/db containers.
- TomK32 4y ago
  Haven't tried Taiga or this docker helper, but it should speed up your setup.
diacritica 4y ago
Hey! (Taiga CEO) Wonderful to see taiga getting some exposure on HN. We're working on a completely new Taiga codebase, codenamed TaigaNext (we'll eventually decide on a proper name). We'll open up repos and stuff very soon for those who want to mess around with code and experimental features. Of course, TaigaNext and Penpot will have a tight integration so that both the lean and design process become more fluid for teams. We are being a bit silent on the Taiga front simply because we have a ton happening on Penpot's front atm! But expect great things from Taiga in 2023!
- rbanffy 4y ago
  I'm impressed Taiga was in FLOSS Weekly in 2015! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3BD-2ejE4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3BD-2ejE4 I guess it's time to do it again.
- jamal-kumar 4y ago
  We've been using it for about a year and it covers our needs (We don't like to rely too hard on stuff like a Kanban board but it's nice to have). Is TaigaNext self-hostable? Thanks for the cool free software!
_DON_ 4y ago
Confused this with taiga ui (https://github.com/Tinkoff/taiga-ui https://github.com/Tinkoff/taiga-ui) :P
quesera 4y ago
My team tested Taiga on a small project. It did not work for us, with a half dozen users of mixed sophistication. Those of us who know our way around these kinds of tools could make it work, but also felt the problems that newer users could not resolve. - The "Save" icon is tiny and hard to find in some layouts (right hand gutter, near the top and far away from your linear text entry flow). It's a floppy disk! Navigating away does not warn you that you have unsaved edits. - Issues can be converted to Stories after review. Great. But there is no indication that the Issue has been converted, and reporters can continue to edit Issues, and the changes are not synced to the new Story item. This was very confusing for some people, and created way more friction than could be reasoned away. - Information density was OK with a small quantity of items/comments/etc, but too sparse for a confident view with large quantities. We moved this project over to test GitHub Projects, which is an improvement but also lacking in some important (different) areas. ... All of these tools have always sucked on some or several dimensions. It's probably impossible to not suck. JIRA can be made to work, though I will never do so again. Pivotal Tracker is solid but overwhelming for reporters/casual users, and requires custom code to integrate with GitHub (but API is decent). Sometimes I miss Trac and Redmine, if only because anything that bothered me enough could be fixed in our self-hosted instance.
- satvikpendem 4y ago
  The problem is developers, especially open source ones, discount the value of design and user interfaces. There are often no OSS designers, because the same culture around OSS development is not there in those designer circles, so this is why you see most OSS be terrible from a user interface and experience standpoint.
  - quesera 4y ago
    I don't think it's true that OSS devs don't value design. Maybe 20 years ago there was a bit of vestigial dismissiveness. Before that, more so. However I definitely agree that the OSS culture is not as prevalent in the design world. But I think the real issue is that UX is more work than most developers expect, and especially to iterate over time. UX mistakes (or imperfections) are visible for all to see, and correctness is sometimes subjective. Imagine if all of our users were able, qualified, and effectively required to evaluate source code! We do some lazy/misguided/opinionated stuff too, sometimes! :) I didn't mean to dis Taiga above. It's thoroughly functional, if not quite right for the users I was testing with. I tried Taiga because I know the other options mostly suck, and my next-step-test is not definitively better!
_jal 4y ago
So many web bugs on the landing page I thought I was hitting CNet.
Karawebnetwork 4y ago
I recently started using Taiga for small projects. I love it for what it is, which is a project management tool that is intuitive for a developer to use. It doesn't rely on timesheets, but on task progress, which I love. I don't care how much time people spend working on a project, I just want to see a picture of where the project is at. When I first tested Taiga, I put my own personal schedule into it. With epics for things like Christmas, tasks for chores, going out for coffee with my mom, etc. It works amazingly well, so well that I still use this test project and prefer it to my regular schedule.
gregoriol 4y ago
How is it free if there is a pricing page?
thatgerhard 4y ago
Once you start using it with a real team and external users etc it costs the same as trello

238 points by gjvc 4y ago

Interesting, we used Taiga long time ago (5 years?) and honestly it was too simple to what we needed. The UI was poor and the whole application was slow in general. Glad to see they’re still pushing the project forward though, every competition is healthy.

pmontra 4y ago

It looks similar to Kanbanize, which is the project management tool that I liked the most in the last 30 years.

dotancohen 4y ago
I'd love to know what you like about Kanbanize. I've tried everything, keep going back to Redmine again and again. Simple _just works_.
- pmontra 4y ago
  I self host my own projects on Redmine but among all the tools that I had to use with my customers I like Kanbanize because the team could see the activities, open the cards, comment, move them to different columns. For one hundred open cards I prefer that to the list in Redmine. However we had many hundreds of open cards in a large backlog and a person spending a significant amount of time on keeping the project in a reasonable shape.
  - dotancohen 4y ago
    I see, thanks.
tormeh 4y ago
Somebody likes Kanbanize? Even Jira is better. Linear is where it's at, imo.
- darkteflon 4y ago
  How does Linear compare to Jira, if you don’t mind?
  - tormeh 4y ago
    As a user the biggest difference is that Linear is really fast. Don't know the difference for admins.

dotancohen 4y ago

Why don't PageUp and PageDown work on this website? And why would I consider a tool that breaks a UI tenet in the first second of interaction with its marketing materials?

tommiegannert 4y ago
I'm on Linux Chrome and PgUp/Dn work well right after entering the site.
petargyurov 4y ago
Why is 1 small UI mistake is enough to put you off an entire product? Also, it works for me...
- lelanthran 4y ago
  It works for me too, but to answer your question, if it was actually not working: > Why is 1 small UI mistake is enough to put you off an entire product? Because removing the page-up/down functionality requires extra work. If the developer is performing extra work in order to make the UI worse, then their UI decisions in general are likely to be equally crap. In this particular case, however, it works ...
  - Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
    > Because removing the page-up/down functionality requires extra work. 100% this Can someone PLEASE explain to me why front-end devs go out of their way to DISABLE features? Scrolling works fine. Having multiple ways to scroll is user-friendly and adds accessibility. Someone please explain to me why a dev is going to go "You know, I don't use Page Down/Page Up to scroll, so I'm going to spend time hooking into the Page Down/Page Up key presses so they can be thrown out and disable scrolling through those keys". EDIT: Page Up/Down work fine for me on that page btw. Using Chrome on a MacBook Pro.
- dotancohen 4y ago
  > Why is 1 small UI mistake is enough to put you off an entire product? Because that tool is accessed via a web browser, same as the landing page.

KronisLV 4y ago

For my own needs, I still self-host and use OpenProject which appears to be this slightly clunky and slow but overall usable Rails app (used Kanboard for more lightweight organizational tasks before that). Haven't personally used Taiga, so can anyone comment on their impressions, maybe also compared to something like Redmine or Jira? What's good? What's annoying? What's missing?

stayux 4y ago
Still using Kanboard. It is sufficient for my team needs. For the rest is Slack.
- anthropodie 4y ago
  If anyone is looking for boards then I recommend focalboard from mattermost
adulion 4y ago
i worked in a startup who where inexperienced and tried to save costs by using taiga. Once experienced people joined the team we switched to jira.
- KronisLV 4y ago
  > Once experienced people joined the team we switched to jira. What was the benefit and the positive outcome from doing so, outside of familiarity with Jira? Conversely, what was problematic about the idea of sticking with Taiga or another solution, what would you miss out on? I think that every software has some shortcomings, like some people swear by Jira, others hate it, personally I can see both sides: it works, but at the same time the REST API has stuff like createmeta which you need to use for getting issue field types programmatically, except that there were breakages in the REST library between versions 8 and 9 of Jira as no data is returned even when you run those two versions with same config in parallel, though that's only applicable to their self-hostable solution which is different from their cloud solution, without getting into the licensing changes in the following years. I'm interested what you think about exact features or qualities that each has and how they compare.

dagi3d 4y ago

This is from the same company that is building Penpot, an open source design and prototyping tool ala Figma and others.

taylorpalmer 4y ago
Good eye!

college_physics 4y ago

one of these day I might have to upgrade from projectlibre :-)

atomicnature 4y ago

Is there any plan to support mobile devices? (or are there any mobile options already). I've noticed that for many personal software (note-taking, todo, etc), phone apps work better than their desktop counterparts.

unixhero 4y ago

I use Taiga, it works really well. I also used it to make money and it delivered.

andruby 4y ago
You "used it to make money". Would you care to elaborate? Do you just mean that you've used it in a profession setting, or do you mean something else?
- unixhero 4y ago
  I used it in a professional setting with several team members. Taiga was a good choice and we were able to be productive and deliver the project. As such it was used to make money. As opposed to hobby purposes such as self host it and organize a road trip. It was also stable, we encountered no bugs and the solution did not get in our way in terms of user interface. It strikes a very good balance between features and simplicity.
  - unixhero 4y ago
    The fortune500 I worked at had Jira, but I couldnt be bothered with it.

ripdog 4y ago

Nice name collision with Taiga, the anime tracking client for Anilist and other sites.

hackerman123469 4y ago
The anime tracker came AFTER this project management tool. Taiga.io is from 2014, Taiga.moe is from 2015. At least those are the earliest presence of the two I could find.
Karawebnetwork 4y ago
Taiga is a category of boreal forests. Common words are bound to create collision, unless they share an industry there's not really any issue with that.

xrayarx 4y ago

The product is free for up to 15 users. There is a self hosting option. But the recommended option is self hosted but managed by Taiga. So to me it seems that this is more freemium. Also, there seems to be version 7 just around the corner. Technology used seem to include python, coffee script, postgres, django, redis among others

projektfu 4y ago
As long as all the features are available open source, I would say it’s free. Freemium would be like Odoo, where important parts of the software, such as accounting, are missing from the open source version.
pabs3 4y ago
So the SaaS is limited but the open source version isn't? That seems reasonable to me, as long as they don't deliberately make it harder to self-host.
emsixteen 4y ago
> The product is free for up to 15 users. Is that including if you self-host?
- Jiocus 4y ago
  No limitations if self-hosted
myfonj 4y ago
Thanks for noting the tech stack, was the first think I was curious about. As for "freemium": as others pointed out, I'd also put it that as long as you can self-host full-fledged instance it's "free". Having possibility to use their "cloud" instance without charge with sole limitation of maximum 15 users is "more than free" from my point of view: they are basically paying your costs for running that. Sure, it might be negligible for them in scale, but still, as long as it saves you time and hosting costs (install and maintenance), it is a value *you* receive for free.
rglullis 4y ago

Joel_Mckay 4y ago

I liked dotProject for internal use, and never exposed installs to the public/web: https://github.com/dotproject/dotProject https://github.com/dotproject/dotProject It is certainly legacy... Yet the small footprint works well for standalone ticket resolution databases, task assignment, and budget tracking. Practically speaking, one needs to consider how many staff will be on the interface at a time. A support database to cover user issue resolutions is part of product development. Having something you know will persist for a decade gets trickier.

holler 4y ago

10 years ago when Taiga was relatively new, I used to browse their source code to help learn how to build a solid api using django / django-rest-framework. They built a quality piece of software from the start and it was really helpful to learn patterns by looking at their code. Eventually they slowly replaced drf with their own implementation, cool to see it worked out.

diacritica 4y ago
Taiga was lunched as alpha in 2014. TaigaNext codebase comes from mid 2021 and will again be used by many devs around the world as best-practices reference, for sure!
- holler 4y ago
  Ah ok had my timelines a bit off, so it was the year they launched in 2014 :D I just remember I somehow heard about it, maybe on HN(?), then started looking through their backend codebase and was impressed by it. One feature in particular I learned a lot from was their permission system, which I had never built before. It helped me reason about how to build permissions into an api.
  - hackerman123469 4y ago
    2014 is almost a decade ago anyway, only off by a little under 2 years.
    - holler 4y ago
      true! time starts to blur the older I get...

solarkraft 4y ago

It may be great if you look past this, but that it BLOCKS AND FLASHES THE WHOLE SCREEN while loading ANYTHING makes it impossible for me to use or recommend to anyone until this is resolved, it's so irritating. No other software does this for very good reasons. What were they thinking?!

Brajeshwar 4y ago

I have tried Taiga, and I love Penpot. Here is my take on tools such as Project Management, Sales CRM that are likely to be used by lot more people once you grow. Many Startups start with lot of other nicely designed, new, and good Sales CRM. Once they grow enough and becomes big (and successful), they all go to Salesforce. So, why not just start with it. I'm not against the other tools, they are good and they do their job. I personally love Hubspot for its UX amongst others. For Project Management, it becomes extremely difficult to convince people to move and change to another provider once people began to settle in. This is extremely hard in larger companies. I have used Jira when it was pretty bad. Recently, I checked it and it has improved a lot. It is free for unto 10-people. If your company grows, you will need to upgrade. You should always ask, "How much am I paying when I'm paying?" This is rather personal but I would start with the idea in mind that you will one day grow to 100+ people. And thus, which one will you use and work backwards and see if it has a cheap/free version to start with. So, why not start with something like Jira, or Basecamp (single pricing for n-users), etc. etc. Why? Last time I tried Taiga, it was pretty limiting. Everyone else have used Jira somehow, and I remember I could make Jira sing with its SQL-ish script.

solarkraft 4y ago

It looks to me like the former government of Afghanistan may have used Taiga and it was pretty important for their workflow: https://youtu.be/DWgCbUWHxMc?t=42m46s https://youtu.be/DWgCbUWHxMc?t=42m46s

pritambarhate 4y ago

Just looked into the code. Frontend is stuck on Angular 1.5. How unfortunate that long lasting projects like this are stuck on a unmaintained framework because the original maintainer changed their own course of action. This is one problem of building on top of frameworks. Someone else decides when your product needs to change.

joseakel 4y ago
I think that the problem affects a lot more the choice of front-end framewoks, specifically. Their creators don't really valuate at all backward compatibility, so it's very easy to get stuck in an older version.
- 411111111111111 4y ago
  They're taking about angular here, it had basically one big upgrade from angularJS(1) to angularIO(2+) and that was 6 years ago. Your argument might be true, but angular would be an exception as it's is pretty backward compatible and even provides you with automated upgrade scripts (ng upgrade)
  - beart 4y ago
    Version 15 of Angular was recently released. I never worked with Angular 1.x., but try running `npm install` on an Angular 9 project and watch the deprecation and security warnings scroll by. I'm in the process of upgrading a complex mono-repo from Angular 9 to 15. The biggest issues are not Angular itself, but all of the other tooling built around it.
    - 411111111111111 4y ago
      I recently upgraded multiple repositories from 11 to 14 (all with ngrx/store) with no issues to speak of. Are you sure you used the upgrade scripts or did you just yolo style increase the angular version in the package.json to latest?

cguess 4y ago

I would never describe any university as the "most agile companies in the world" (they list ASU and UW as clients). I say that as someone who is and has been a researcher at numerous fairly prestigious ones over the year.

martopix 4y ago
Seconded. Actually after doing a couple of internships I learned soo much about how to do meetings, keep tracks of projects, etc. compared to academia.
- jksmith 4y ago
  Interestingly, arguably THE most agile company in the world (Spacex) probably doesn't use any ALM tools as supported by the agile industry. Maybe a backlog tool in there somewhere, but I bet their bullshit footprint is pretty light.
- laniakean 4y ago
  As someone who has only done internships in academia, is it possible to share some tips or point me to some good resources? Thank you

synergy20 4y ago

used redmine for a few years,will use again

LeSaucy 4y ago

I went to evaluate this vs leantime but it is quite involved requiring frontend/backend/load balancer/proxy/db containers.

TomK32 4y ago
Haven't tried Taiga or this docker helper, but it should speed up your setup.

diacritica 4y ago

Hey! (Taiga CEO) Wonderful to see taiga getting some exposure on HN. We're working on a completely new Taiga codebase, codenamed TaigaNext (we'll eventually decide on a proper name). We'll open up repos and stuff very soon for those who want to mess around with code and experimental features. Of course, TaigaNext and Penpot will have a tight integration so that both the lean and design process become more fluid for teams. We are being a bit silent on the Taiga front simply because we have a ton happening on Penpot's front atm! But expect great things from Taiga in 2023!

rbanffy 4y ago
I'm impressed Taiga was in FLOSS Weekly in 2015! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3BD-2ejE4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3BD-2ejE4 I guess it's time to do it again.
jamal-kumar 4y ago
We've been using it for about a year and it covers our needs (We don't like to rely too hard on stuff like a Kanban board but it's nice to have). Is TaigaNext self-hostable? Thanks for the cool free software!

_DON_ 4y ago

Confused this with taiga ui (https://github.com/Tinkoff/taiga-ui https://github.com/Tinkoff/taiga-ui) :P

quesera 4y ago

My team tested Taiga on a small project. It did not work for us, with a half dozen users of mixed sophistication. Those of us who know our way around these kinds of tools could make it work, but also felt the problems that newer users could not resolve. - The "Save" icon is tiny and hard to find in some layouts (right hand gutter, near the top and far away from your linear text entry flow). It's a floppy disk! Navigating away does not warn you that you have unsaved edits. - Issues can be converted to Stories after review. Great. But there is no indication that the Issue has been converted, and reporters can continue to edit Issues, and the changes are not synced to the new Story item. This was very confusing for some people, and created way more friction than could be reasoned away. - Information density was OK with a small quantity of items/comments/etc, but too sparse for a confident view with large quantities. We moved this project over to test GitHub Projects, which is an improvement but also lacking in some important (different) areas. ... All of these tools have always sucked on some or several dimensions. It's probably impossible to not suck. JIRA can be made to work, though I will never do so again. Pivotal Tracker is solid but overwhelming for reporters/casual users, and requires custom code to integrate with GitHub (but API is decent). Sometimes I miss Trac and Redmine, if only because anything that bothered me enough could be fixed in our self-hosted instance.

satvikpendem 4y ago
The problem is developers, especially open source ones, discount the value of design and user interfaces. There are often no OSS designers, because the same culture around OSS development is not there in those designer circles, so this is why you see most OSS be terrible from a user interface and experience standpoint.
- quesera 4y ago
  I don't think it's true that OSS devs don't value design. Maybe 20 years ago there was a bit of vestigial dismissiveness. Before that, more so. However I definitely agree that the OSS culture is not as prevalent in the design world. But I think the real issue is that UX is more work than most developers expect, and especially to iterate over time. UX mistakes (or imperfections) are visible for all to see, and correctness is sometimes subjective. Imagine if all of our users were able, qualified, and effectively required to evaluate source code! We do some lazy/misguided/opinionated stuff too, sometimes! :) I didn't mean to dis Taiga above. It's thoroughly functional, if not quite right for the users I was testing with. I tried Taiga because I know the other options mostly suck, and my next-step-test is not definitively better!

_jal 4y ago

So many web bugs on the landing page I thought I was hitting CNet.

Karawebnetwork 4y ago

I recently started using Taiga for small projects. I love it for what it is, which is a project management tool that is intuitive for a developer to use. It doesn't rely on timesheets, but on task progress, which I love. I don't care how much time people spend working on a project, I just want to see a picture of where the project is at. When I first tested Taiga, I put my own personal schedule into it. With epics for things like Christmas, tasks for chores, going out for coffee with my mom, etc. It works amazingly well, so well that I still use this test project and prefer it to my regular schedule.

gregoriol 4y ago

How is it free if there is a pricing page?

thatgerhard 4y ago

Once you start using it with a real team and external users etc it costs the same as trello