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Have you considered that most people really do not give a shit? I would much rather drive a "deathtrap" that doesn't break in 5 years than a "safe eco friendly
by alexb_ 4y ago
Have you considered that most people really do not give a shit? I would much rather drive a "deathtrap" that doesn't break in 5 years than a "safe eco friendly :)" car that charges me 12 grand a year to accelerate.
- dalyons 4y agoUntil you get in an accident, and then you’ll care (or be dead so you won’t). Safety has come an awful long way in 35 years. And I actually think “most people” do give a shit about their families not dying preventably
- HeyLaughingBoy 4y agoDunno. I'll take my chances in a 35 year-old Suburban in a collision with most other vehicles on the road.
- ivanbakel 4y agoThe vehicle would fare better, and you would fare much worse. Modern cars wreck to preserve their passengers, rather than vice versa.
- HeyLaughingBoy 4y agoIt's 35 years old, not 65 years old!
- Karellen 4y ago1959 Chevrolet Bel Air vs. 2009 Chevrolet Malibu IIHS crash test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_r5UJrxcck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_r5UJrxcck Sure, a lot of advances in safety were made in the 28 years between 1959 and 1987, so your car won't fare as badly as the Bel Air, but there were plenty of other advances in the 22 years between then and when that Malibu was made in 2009, and likely quite a few in the 13 years since. It's a free country, so you can take your chances if you want. I wouldn't rate them that highly though, FWIW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- robocat 4y agoGreat video. It is impressive how long the windscreen of the Malibu stays intact.
- loudmax 4y agoThe weight of the 1988 Suburban ensures that in a collision, the risk of being killed is transferred to the people in the vehicle struck by the Suburban, rather than the occupants of the Suburban.
- HeyLaughingBoy 4y agoYes. That's the point of the comment.
- 0xfeba 4y agoThat only works if most other vehicles weigh substantially less, which they don't. Suburban vs Smart Car, sure, you "just" kill all the occupants of the smart car, and get some whiplash since you don't have headrest and possibly head injuries, since you might not have a shoulder belt. Suburban vs modern sedan, truck, SUV, semi -- you're dead.
- nine_k 4y agoThose who die in a crash could say otherwise, had they lived due to more modern safety features, but are not given a chance.
- chickenpotpie 4y agoPicking a Mercedes Benz as the example of a "safe eco friendly" car is a strawman.
- alexb_ 4y agoI highly doubt this bullshit is going to stop at one brand. Tesla paved the way for car companies to be more interested in screwing you over and trying to milk money out of everything while dazzling with "technology" instead of creating a good vehicle that just works.
- ezfe 4y agoMy family has owned a 2013 Prius (50-60 MPG) and driven it over 100k miles in 9 years. It's needed a single 12V battery replacement a couple years ago, and nothing else besides regular oil changes/brakes/etc. (excluding body work, of course). I own a 2020 Subaru Crosstrek (30-40 MPG, auto braking, blind spot monitoring, etc.) that has been driven ~50k miles in 3 years, and nothing else besides regular oil changes so far. Hasn't even needed new brakes yet. Just because old cars are reliable doesn't make new cars unreliable.
- serf 4y ago>Just because old cars are reliable doesn't make new cars unreliable. no, but the additional complexity necessarily does when making a relative comparison between new and old. The backup ultrasonic sensors won't fail on a 1978 Cadillac deVille -- they don't have them.
- ezfe 4y agoFor most (not all!) of that complexity, if it fails you're left with an inoperable part of the car, not an inoperable car. I've got a 2011 Hyundai that's...well, it's got all sorts of problems, most likely caused by the chipmunks that call it home . The backup camera doesn't work and stereo system is silent. But the car still drives just fine, those systems don't cause a full failure of the vehicle. The screen goes black when backing up of course, but I can still back up.
- dsfyu404ed 4y agoThis is all find and dandy until your local predatory BHPH car lots and safety sallies join forces and lobby to have your backup camera make it onto the list of stuff that gets checked as part of annual safety inspection in your state.
- phpisthebest 4y agoMove to a state with no Inspections.... (hint they are all colored Red on the Electoral map ;) )
- johanvts 4y agoDidn't you just say it requires lots of maintenance? It's not like most modern cars require a subscription, although we might be headed there.
- rob 4y agoPersonally, I just want to take my dog safely to parks, hike, and drive long distances. Much rather have a newish car every X years with a full warranty and not worry instead of something that requires 'basic maintenance' I have to deal with, like my brake booster leaking.
- mattpallissard 4y agoThis. I too have an old suburban. I stuck a 5 speed manual transmission in it. Whenever someone is surprised it's a stick I ask "You want to take it for a spin?" Everyone says yes. Nobody asks about safety features.
- tehwebguy 4y agoSounds awesome. Still kicking myself for no buying the dirt cheap 5 speed gen 1 Discovery on Craigslist last year...
- geocrasher 4y agoMine has the 700R4 in it, and I have to say, I'm spoiled. I do hope to get another squarebody with a stick in it, but I'm going to turn it into a tractor: 292 I6 with a SM465/205. Very reminiscent of a Toyota LC actually, especially since their original I6 was derived from the Chevy I6.
- mattpallissard 4y agoThat 700r4/4l60 and the nv1500 ought to have the same length and bellhousing pattern. Should bolt right up as long as it has the same spline count on the output shaft.
- lmm 4y agoThe level of acceptable risk for a one-off bit of fun on your own is a lot higher than what you'd want to accept for an everyday commute, or put your kids in.
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- mrguyorama 4y agoOur family had a 2004 camry(kinda) that went 160k miles on ZERO maintenance. Of course, once I took over it, it took about $3500 but it would have gone another 50k miles (and still is under a new owner) no problem. Your average mid market car doesn't cost that much to maintain, unless you buy a CVT vehicle out of warranty, or are truly terrible on your vehicle somehow.
- akiselev 4y agoThey drove a car 160,000 miles without changing the oil?
- jreese 4y agoI had a friend in high school who literally drove his (used) Civic every day for five years and never once changed the oil. You'd be amazed how well synthetic oil holds up in an engine designed for long term reliability.