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IKEA asks horror game to change so people stop comparing it to IKEA [update]
- gw98 4y agoI get the feeling they don't like their dystopian hell holes compared to dystopian hell holes.
- TeMPOraL 4y agoIt could be more about the risk the game will reveal to the players the way to exit the maze.
- Malic 4y agoSeems the case the developers were inspired by SCP-3008 - https://the-scp.foundation/object/scp-3008 https://the-scp.foundation/object/scp-3008 IKEA's actions concern me a little. The sub-genre of Urban Fantasy will call in lots of real world elements and then blend in something supernatural. This might have chilling effects for certain kinds of story telling.
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- gpderetta 4y agowhat's the relation between the-scp.fundation and scp-wiki? are they owned by the same organization or is it a fork?
- weberer 4y agoIt appears to be a third-party, ad-free mirror. The original site is also hosted on wikidot, which has been getting DDOS'd intermittently over the past year.
- actually_a_dog 4y agoI'm not saying IKEA is at all in the right here, but you do have to admit that this: > Your game uses a blue and yellow sign with a Scandinavian name on the store, a blue box-like building, yellow vertical striped shirts identical to those worn by IKEA personnel, a gray path on the floor, furniture that looks like IKEA furniture, and product signage that looks like IKEA signage. is truly, unmistakenly supposed to be a fictional totally-not-IKEA-but-yeah-its-IKEA store. If, instead of furniture, the store had been filled with TVs, large appliances, laptops, cell phones, and related merchandise, while the staff wore blue shirts with yellow name tags, I'm sure you'd have no trouble picking out which store I was describing, in spite of not saying the name, right? I haven't read the full letter, but this smells like they might be going after a trademark infringement theory. If that's the case, corporations are obligated to do shit like bully video game developers, if they believe that the game's use of their branding would cause confusion or harm the identity of their mark. So, those who condemn IKEA here might just literally be condemning them for being vigorous participants in the capitalist marketplace.
- skocznymroczny 4y agoWell, it's tricky, but many games do that and get away with it. In many games you have cars or guns which are obvious lookalikes of real life cars and weapons but have their names changed to avoid copyright infringements. Look at GTA. They can pretend it's taking place in Los Santos, Las Venturas and San Fierro, but we know what real life locations they are meant to represent. We know what that VINEWOOD letters on the hills are meant to represent, we know what "Area 69" military base is meant to represent.
- Cthulhu_ 4y agoIt's probably the fine line between parody and copying; the ikea game was ruled too much like a copy, GTA was ruled a parody.
- Karliss 4y agoNothing was ruled so far. IKEA lawyers just looked at it said they don't like it, doesn't matter whether it's valid parody or not. And in many cases it works, because the potential cost of defending in court is too much.
- vitiral 4y agoCouldn't the dev lean in and claim it's a parody? Instead of making it LESS like Ikea, use Ikea brands directly. I'm pretty sure parody law permits this. Disclaimer: I am not, nor will ever be, a lawyer
- spywaregorilla 4y agoProbably. Even in it's current form it could probably pass as parody. But that still means you have to fight a corp in court.
- tialaramex 4y agoParody requires that your work be a commentary on the protected work you have repurposed specifically. Weird Al actually secures permission and never relies on parody protection, but if he didn't then "Fat" would fail, Michael Jackson was many things but notably fat was not one of them, whereas his "Smells Like Nirvana" is a parody because it's about Cobain's incomprehensible singing and other aspects of the Nirvana song. So what's the commentary here for IKEA?
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- ohgodplsno 4y agoThat IKEA organises its stores in a hard to understand mess for mere mortals, seemingly unending and leading to any trip for an unenlightened visitor taking multiple hours, and this is taking the idea to the extreme, making you almost forever stuck. In fact, the only people exiting SCP-3008 are those with the knowledge of the shortcuts. Saying that something is a parody isn't exactly hard.
- xdfgh1112 4y agoI never understood the IKEA is a maze argument. There is literally a single straight line running from entrance to exit, with signage. You can walk the entire route in about 5-10 minutes.
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- Macha 4y agoIs this not like the look and feel lawsuits over user interface from the initial fights over WIMP interfaces and later about slide to unlock, black rectangles and multitouch? Weren't they ultimately found not to be protectable?
- dbspin 4y agoDoesn't matter if the developers can't afford to fight it.
- actually_a_dog 4y agos/developers/people/ here and you've hit on the main fraud of most Western legal systems. Essentially no private individual can stand up to a corporation that wants to bring the full weight of millions of dollars against them in the form of legal resources. Even borderline ethical tactics like burying the opposition in paperwork are far more effective when the other side is literally 1 guy. We need some kind of real, actual tort reform here that does allow individuals to take on corporations. Corporations won't like that, of course, but this is a "too damn bad" type scenario in my mind. The big, practical question in my mind is "How do you do something like this without running up against Citizens United?". I think we may have capitalism'ed ourselves into a corner here.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago>Essentially no private individual can stand up to a corporation that wants to bring the full weight of millions of dollars against them in the form of legal resources. Even borderline ethical tactics like burying the opposition in paperwork are far more effective when the other side is literally 1 guy. So long as the state also makes frequent use of this disparity the loophole will remain open. The state would rather let corporations run over individuals then give up the power to do so themselves.
- JKCalhoun 4y agoWith this global, free advertising, perhaps they can.
- mrfinn 4y agoHi IKEA! I'm introducing you the Streisand Effect.
- rexreed 4y agoIn what way does this reference the Streisand Effect? Everyone already knows IKEA and this won't make people want to do more or less with IKEA. This looks like standard trademark / trade dress complaint.
- EarthIsHome 4y agoIt makes more people aware of the game.
- rexreed 4y agoMost likely the game designer will change the design, and then everyone wins. IKEA wins and the game developer wins from the attention. Which is what they all want, unlike Babs.
- Sebb767 4y ago> Most likely the game designer will change the design, and then everyone wins. This is most likely based on SCP-3008 , which parodies the hard-to-navigate nature of Ikea (and adds some horror elements based on it). A generic store will not have the same impact. [0] https://the-scp.foundation/object/scp-3008 https://the-scp.foundation/object/scp-3008
- prmoustache 4y agoIf the game designer is smart, he will change all colors, branding, everything and allow the players to install mods. Good luck to IKEA for shutting down every single IKEA mod archive in the WWW.
- IncRnd 4y agoThat's the opposite of the Streisand effect, which here brings attention to the game.
- pvg 4y agothreads last week, 16,13 and 7 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33424587 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33424587 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33407015 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33407015 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33405541 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33405541
- dang 4y agoThanks! Macroexpanded: IKEA sues indie game developer over survival horror game set in furniture store - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33424587 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33424587 - Nov 2022 (16 comments) IKEA Asks Horror Game to Change So Folks Stop IKEA Comparisons - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33407015 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33407015 - Oct 2022 (13 comments) IKEA issues cease and desist against indie developer - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33405541 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33405541 - Oct 2022 (7 comments)
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- DarthNebo 4y agoCould've been handled better
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- iepathos 4y agoOh this wouldn't hold a hope of winning a copyright lawsuit. They are just hoping to bully the indie developer with their corporate lawyer team. Parodies are protected.
- klodolph 4y ago1. The game is not parodying Ikea (it’s not protected) 2. This is not a copyright issue (trademark dilution)
- jwilk 4y agoThe article talks about "copyright infringement", but maybe that's just bad reporting.
- klodolph 4y agoIt’s almost certainly bad reporting—there are a lot of copies of this article around.
- 0xcde4c3db 4y agoThis appears to just be the CBR article being sloppy in summarizing Kotaku's reporting. The original article makes multiple mentions of trademark infringement, but doesn't mention copyright at all [1]. [1] https://kotaku.com/ikea-furniture-horror-game-store-is-closed-kickstarter-1849715848 https://kotaku.com/ikea-furniture-horror-game-store-is-close...
- dang 4y agoWe've changed to that URL from https://www.cbr.com/ikea-the-store-is-closed-cease-and-desist-horror-game/ https://www.cbr.com/ikea-the-store-is-closed-cease-and-desis... now (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33508853 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33508853).
- antiterra 4y agoI don’t think you can so easily state it’s not parodying Ikea and there’s an argument for fair-use without that, However, at least in the US (this is maybe in the UK?) arguing fair-use for a trademark can cost a lot of money and is a bit fraught. Also re the ‘our hands are tied, we must protect our mark’ claims, it’s always an option to license the use. https://www.kirkland.com/publications/article/2020/11/trademarks-and-the-first-amendment https://www.kirkland.com/publications/article/2020/11/tradem...
- jeisc 4y agoIkea should be honored to be chosen it will boost sales. I cannot do a horror movie that passes in a public place of sales? Please this should be thrown out in a second in court and damages paid to the author for his sufferings and worrying
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- joxel 4y agoYou're getting downvoted here, but it seems like a common sense position like this just isn't reality. Quite sad. I wish life could be this simple.
- mattbrewsbytes 4y agoI saw some info about the latest Call of Duty game having to remove some maps from its multi-player mode because they resemble actual in life buildings like a hotel. Video games are artwork, playable artwork, but still I thought art was protected in a way. How will VR worlds that resemble real structures be treated?
- the_only_law 4y agoI’m actually kinda curious what the “legal” definition of art includes. The word already seems to be ambiguous enough. I’ve gotten into multiple arguments here about whether things like music are art.
- Cthulhu_ 4y agoTBH a lot of hotels look similar, and they likely went out to take pictures; resemblances may be unintentional, but easy to do. > How will VR worlds that resemble real structures be treated? Probably just like anything else that falls under these laws; copyright laws and licenses. I can imagine a hotel would be OK to be in a virtual world, just as long as no people get virtually shot in there.
- hutzlibu 4y ago"TBH a lot of hotels look similar, and they likely went out to take pictures; resemblances may be unintentional, but easy to do." Not in that case. The game takes place in a amsterdam and they intentionally tried to make it as realistic as possible(just changing names). And in that map, you play inside that particular hotel and then part of the hotel gets destroyed. https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/amsterdam-hotel-call-of-duty/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/amsterdam-hotel-call-of... So it is not really coincidence. But is it worth doing a legal battle over it? I don't think so, but the hotel owners surely got attention.
- mywittyname 4y agoI've always wondered why it is companies can sue game developers for using their buildings, but not Google or Microsoft. I'm certain that same building is in Google Maps. And it might be in Flight Simulator, give that it's built from satellite images.
- dt3ft 4y agoHere is some footage of the gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPT6GlMWEjU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPT6GlMWEjU
- iambateman 4y agoat 1:12 the narrator says "in this IKEA." https://youtu.be/cPT6GlMWEjU?t=69 https://youtu.be/cPT6GlMWEjU?t=69 So...
- atdrummond 4y agoThat’s a 3rd party YT channel, not the studio/game’s creator.
- Finnucane 4y agoWhich is actually to IKEA's point. They can say, look, everyone seeing the game thinks it's supposed to be IKEA.
- cma 4y agoEven then, can a store be copyrighted? Trademark-wise is a horror game in one of their markets and likely to confuse customers?
- Finnucane 4y agoThat would presumably be part of the defense's argument. That even though the game looks similar to IKEA, no one actually thinks it _is_ IKEA. I'm not saying IKEA has a fool-proof case, or even is really worth the effort, but if people are looking at a thing that looks like IKEA and saying, hey, that's an IKEA, then that's probably enough to get it heard in court.
- hunter2_ 4y agoIt's pretty obviously not an IKEA, because you can buy IKEA's products in an IKEA but you can't here. But maybe it's not obvious enough whether or not it's an IKEA ad (think product placement) so if the game incorporates something distasteful then it could get consumers thinking that the real IKEA is running a distasteful ad? If someone tried to run an ad on TV for a company without their permission, I think it would generate similar concern. Consumers of Weird Al and SNL know that the original artist isn't advertising. Consumers of games might not know that the original company isn't advertising?
- kleiba 4y agoHonestly, the store in the kickstarter footage does not even look like an IKEA to me - the floors in the game are much more open and less claustrophobic than an actual IKEA. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ziggygamedev/the-store-is-closed-infinite-furniture-store-survival-game https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ziggygamedev/the-store-...
- macspoofing 4y agoCome on, it's an obvious IKEA parody ... but so what, it (should) fall under free-speech protections.
- groovybits 4y agoWould such protections still apply if money is intended to be made? That is clearly the case, since its on Kickstarter.
- bombcar 4y agoParody for money is protected BUT you have to be parodying the thing iirc. So Weird Al could have made all his songs without permission (but he gets it to be polite) - though he’d still have to pay licensing to use the music iirc. There’s case law about it. Barbie Girl may be involved. Snoopy vs the Red Baron also.
- georgeecollins 4y agoMaybe. Both cases you mention are songs, not video games. From a modern perspective you would think the laws about intellectual property for video games would be the same as for film and music. I think the long run that will be true. But some of the early precedent has treated video games more like "toys" with less speech protection. If you are really doing this check with a lawyer who works in the area (admittedly few).
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- mdtrooper 4y agoIn 2014 IKEA backtracks on legal take down of fan site for furniture hackers : https://www.dezeen.com/2014/06/19/ikea-backs-down-in-legal-kerfuffle-with-biggest-fan-site-ikeahackers/ https://www.dezeen.com/2014/06/19/ikea-backs-down-in-legal-k...
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- theGnuMe 4y agoThey should ride it out. Great publicity. You can't buy this kind of marketing.
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- tpmx 4y agoFrom the Kotaku article this article is a (bad) rewrite of: https://kotaku.com/ikea-furniture-horror-game-store-is-closed-kickstarter-1849715848 https://kotaku.com/ikea-furniture-horror-game-store-is-close... Updated: 10/31/22, 12.00a.m. ET: Ikea UK got back to us this morning, providing the following statement: While we think it’s flattering that others are inspired by the IKEA brand, we must be diligent to ensure that the IKEA trademarks and trade dress are not misapplied. Various elements of the video game currently correspond in appearance with the IKEA brand features. We’ve reached out to the creator of the video and asked them to make changes to those elements to ensure that this is no longer the case. They expressed that they understand our request and agreed to make those changes. This should all be well in time for the expected 2024 launch of the game.
- kfarr 4y agoThis should be at the top. Kudos to IKEA comms team for transparency and clarity in this statement
- dang 4y agoThanks! We've changed to that URL from https://www.cbr.com/ikea-the-store-is-closed-cease-and-desist-horror-game/ https://www.cbr.com/ikea-the-store-is-closed-cease-and-desis... now. (Submitted title was "IKEA Sends Cease and Desist to Horror Game over Its Lookalike Setting"). From the site guidelines: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- stonemetal12 4y agoKind of reminds me of the book Horrorstor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horrorst%C3%B6r https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horrorst%C3%B6r
- helloooooooo 4y agoI was about to comment this. I’m surprised IKEA never went after that, but I guess it falls within the realm of parody.
- geenew 4y agoThe book goes to great pains to say that the store in question is a knockoff brand of Ikea. To be honest, those parts of the book felt a bit stilted; I had imagined them being added at the request/requirement of the publisher to avoid lawsuits.
- MDGeist 4y agoI read that recently and when I saw this headline I wondered if the author had gotten similar treatment from Ikea...
- wkdneidbwf 4y agoi only skimmed the article but this is clearly based on the SCP story—-which does take place in an ikea.
- Gh0stRAT 4y agoLink for those who haven't read it yet: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3008 https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3008
- giancarlostoro 4y agoI actually have been a little excited for this game, its goofy but looks fun with friends and its a fun spin on a place I visit every few months or so. The uniform definitely screams Ikea and the outside of the building. Shame I think its a really cool concept and doesnt ruin Ikea for me if it went live as-is.
- klodolph 4y agoThis article has been copied a bit, my take here is: 1. Ikea sent a C&D to a small indie developer alleging trademark infringement or trademark dilution (NOT copyright). Seems like this has been lost a bit, and most articles are reporting on other articles. 2. If go to the Kickstarter page, the Ikea branding features prominently in the promotional materials for the game. It LOOKS like blatant trademark infringement or dilution to me. It’s not like you fire up the game and find out that it’s set in an Ikea. The game is marketed as a game set in Ikea, except for the term “Ikea” itself, which is scrubbed out. 3. I can’t see any parody angle here. It seems like it’s a horror game which is supposed to be set in an Ikea, but it’s not making any kind of commentary on Ikea. Like, how is this supposed to be some kind of protected speech? As far as I can tell, it’s “What if you were trapped inside an Ikea, and there were monsters?” People seem to like it for the David vs. Goliath angle. However, nothing about this needs to be set in Ikea. Just like how SCP-173 didn’t need to use that particular artwork. If you think it was right for SCP-173 to change artwork, but it’s wrong for this SCP-derived game to change the branding for its setting… why? Edit: For context: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14469202/announcement-regarding-the-removal-of-scp-173-s-image https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14469202/announcement-r... > However, as authors (and staff) didn't know much about licensing originally (nor did SCP have the significance at the time for it to be as big of a deal), they would often grab images from the Internet at random, including images that their creators would not allow the use of. > […] > Izumi Kato has extremely graciously allowed us to use Untitled 2004 on our site, on the condition that Untitled 2004's itself or its likeness would not be used for commercial purposes. Nonetheless, we cannot indefinitely keep the image on SCP-173's page, especially since it has become increasingly difficult for us to prevent Untitled 2004's likeness from being used for commercial purposes by others as SCP grows. > Licensing aside, Untitled 2004's usage on the Wiki is also an ethical issue. Izumi Kato did not intend nor ask for his art to be used as an SCP, and the meaning and purpose of Untitled 2004 has been, in some ways, permanently tainted by its use in the article. Kato kindly and retroactively allowed its use for SCP-173 in 2014 on condition, but it was clear he was not happy with the situation. Additionally, his art's been exploited by third parties trying to profit off of SCP, which has likely caused him much distress. > As such, we believe the most correct course of action in this situation is to remove Untitled 2004 from SCP-173. Although this process has been delayed significantly, the longer we wait, the more harm is done to Izumi Kato's creative vision and the risk of legal issues becomes greater.
- _chu1 4y agoIf IKEA wants to care so much, they should partner with the game developers and actually put IKEA in the game, hell yeah I would buy a couch from them then
- whywhywhywhy 4y agoDumb as hell, especially when Halloween was the other week. If anything should have been working with them on an official version of it using real Ikea 3D models. Like make it even more accurate if anything. Marketing wise would have been crazy good.
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- AlphaWeaver 4y agoI feel like this should be relatively fair-use under the guise of parody, right? Though I imagine the dev doesn't feel like going to court over it.
- myself248 4y agoGiven that a lot of people feel trapped in an IKEA store, I think that's pretty clear. I have no interest in the game, but I'd chip into a legal-defense fund for it.
- throwup 4y agoDefinitely. Brand name lookalikes are a longstanding tradition in media. See: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlandNameProduct https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlandNameProduct - dozens of subpages and hundreds of examples. If he took this to court he would absolutely win.
- Beldin 4y agoPerhaps, under US law. If the creator felt confident about that and only intended to sell this game in the USA, then perhaps a lawsuit could be worth it. Then again, the "parody" defense may require something more than "the setting is obviously a take on this trademark", something sufficient to label it "transformative". No clue what the legal standard for that is.
- nkozyra 4y ago> then perhaps a lawsuit could be worth it. Even in US law, no, there's no scenario wherein the lawsuit against IKEA would be worth ~$50k in revenue (not profit).
- Method-X 4y agoHe should take it to court. Great publicity for his game!
- bt3 4y agoMade me think of the game "Escape from Tarkov", which has been out for years and has a subset of a mall-setting map called "IDEA" using the same blue/yellow color pallette (1). [1] https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/IDEA_cash_register_key?file=IDEA_Register_Location.png https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/IDEA_cash_register_...
- remarkEon 4y agoThat's what I expected this article to be about, because Tarkov could certainly be classified as a horror game from a certain point of view.
- dzink 4y agoFrom rough memory, IKEA has had apps or partnerships to enable consumers to build 3D models of their place with IKEA furniture. Those 3D models might be widely available as a result, which provides a fairly quick boost to any indie developer trying to build a game.
- TeMPOraL 4y agoWish it was that easy to extract the 3D models from their web designer utilities. I've made almost perfect design of the flat remodel before we hired the contractors earlier this year, and one major thing that was off was the use of generic furniture - I just couldn't afford to model the stuff myself (I did copy the color patterns and textures, though).
- nomilk 4y agoAlso, Streisand Effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
- martinskou 4y agoI don’t get it. IKEA is much scarier than that game!
- rglover 4y agoThey're going to lose more brand from doing this than they would have going along with the joke. I bet good money this would have subconsciously primed a lot of the people who play it to shop at Ikea. Now it won't. Wasted opportunity.
- Overtonwindow 4y agoI want to buy this game now. Like when the city of Montreal complained because a Counter Strike map looked too much like their train station. Whenever corporations or governments say something is bad I tend to suspect the opposite.
- Hackbraten 4y agoEven though the Kickstarter campaign is over, you can buy the game (with alpha/beta access) here: https://www.patreon.com/TheStoreisClosed https://www.patreon.com/TheStoreisClosed
- imwillofficial 4y agoFuck ikea
- squarefoot 4y agoDon't mess with the IKEA brand, even in good faith, unless you either have deep pockets, therefore very good lawyers, or are very popular and can count on a lot followers on your side. Anyone remembers about ikeahackers.net? IKEA initially shut it off on bogus trademark violation claims, then backed off only after public outcry. https://www.sfgate.com/homeandgarden/article/Site-that-brought-us-Texas-Ikea-cat-playground-5576633.php https://www.sfgate.com/homeandgarden/article/Site-that-broug...
- Pigalowda 4y agoI hadn't seen this - very gross move by ikea.
- yarg 4y ago> It has of course never been our ambition to stop their webpage. On the contrary, we very much appreciate the interest in our products and the fact that there are people around the world that love our products as much as we do. Literally what they tried to do. Could've blamed it on an over-zealous employee in the legal department, but instead ran with pretending it didn't happen.
- pfdietz 4y agoI hope the game involves NPCs with the store's logo burned into their flesh. When asked about it, they'll explain it's just corporate branding.
- PHGamer 4y agoLOL. There is nothing special about Ikea furniture. its generic slop made of compressed wood like the stuff you find in office furniture at your local bank.
- hacym 4y agoWho asked? Their brand is recognizable, despite your objections to their product.
- someweirdperson 4y agoJust checked, "Styr" (name of the shop in the game) is not a rot13 or any variation (different offset or reverse order) thereof of "Ikea".
- mungoman2 4y agoYou can figure this out by observing that S and T are sequential, but none of the letters in IKEA are.
- unethical_ban 4y agoI'll skip the legal analysis and state with confidence that this game is morally in the right and Ikea and the systems supporting their claim are morally in the wrong. So long as the game does not claim to be sponsored, supported or be acting in the name of Ikea, it should be allowed to do what it wants.
- snshn 4y agoThey should do the same to the studio that released The Human Centipede. Those drawings that the German doctor made on his whiteboard look a lot like Ikea's, from their instruction booklets.
- jmugan 4y agoThis may sound weird, but if the public "experiences" something it seems like it should be partially owned by the public. For example, certain Far Side cartoons feel like they partially belong to me because they are ingrained in my web of thinking and experiences. Not saying I should be able to sell them, but we need to maintain fair use.
- wy35 4y agoThis game appears to be extremely similar to an existing Roblox game: https://www.roblox.com/games/2768379856/3008-2-71 https://www.roblox.com/games/2768379856/3008-2-71 This Roblox version doesn't have weapons, but it's pretty fun, actually. Ask your kids -- they probably played it.
- dirtyid 4y agoThe game doesn't do the setting justice, IKEA seems like a great horror setting otherwise. Many places and diagrams to hide in.
- spyder 4y agoThere is also the option of passive-agressive compliance: step 1: Change the textures and make it possible for users to add their custom texture packs. (yea, it's more work but may help to build community) step 2: Oh no some anonymous users have created texture packs with IKEA colors and sharing it with each other. They could go after the users but good luck going after all the file-sharing options.