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If you die in the game, you die in real life
- 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 4y agoAs always, Silicon Valley techbro CEOs only deliver the boring and shitty part of SciFi dystopia without any of the cool and exciting advantages.
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- oa335 4y agoThis made me chuckle, especially as the first comment.
- aerovistae 4y agoNormally I would downvote a comment like this on HN, but...
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- dang 4y agoPlease don't do this here.
- texaslonghorn5 4y agoAllamaraine, count to four
- EarlKing 4y agoFirst shap.
- m3kw9 4y agoLike an exploding headset triggered from the server
- anigbrowl 4y agoBookmarking to forestall the inevitable future protestations that 'nobody could have seen this coming.'
- taylorhou 4y agowhy not just kill the metaverse/in game user/account? it is just as impactful, possibly more impactful and you get the same finality without being deemed an illegal device? i'm thinking back to my mmorpg days playing ragnarok on a private US server where i spent easily 2 years of my teenage life leveling a blacksmith to lvl 99 while also becoming the richest and most powerful guild leader on the server. if i had the consequence of losing that account due to in game death, i'd play completely differently too...
- charcircuit 4y agoIt wouldn't work. After 10 minutes 95% of people will have taken off the headset getting their account banned. The playerbase of the game would quickly decine. If taking the headset off kills you, people will be stuck in the game and there will be a lot more at stake in the actions they take.
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- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y agoThere is something that makes me deeply uncomfortable about how casual he is about making a killing machine, and how there is no acknowledgment that it's a horrible invention. There is seemingly no forethought or justification, he saw it in an anime and made it then brushes it off as art in one line at the end. It's not technologically challenging nor does it have beautiful craftsmanship, like some homemade guns. I really don't get it. It reminds me of the suicide helmet, made of iron surrounded by shotgun shells. But that was something chilling and impressive both in intent and form.
- easygenes 4y agoThis is "A Modest Proposal" style satire.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y agoI considered it but, as others have commented, the author works in Defense. You don't usually satirize a system or culture you're actively and willingly building.
- kelseyfrog 4y agoYou usually don't, but the system doesn't care either way. The system packages up critique and commodifies it into benign impotence regardless.
- jongjong 4y agoYeah, this is as low-brow as joking about war horrors. This has potential to be truly horrific. Imagine political and war prisoners and their entire families being strapped to this thing and then enslaved for their entire lives on the threat of having their brains blown to bits at any second. Surely this is worse than any form of torture imaginable and worse than death. It's difficult to see the funny part.
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- imgabe 4y agoYou can always tell great satire by how many people take it seriously.
- HWR_14 4y agoI have no idea what great satire risked anyone taking it seriously. Was anyone convinced that Irish babies were really being eaten?
- netr0ute 4y ago> Was anyone convinced that Irish babies were really being eaten I think so, considering that one of The Onion's top YouTube videos is one of its most disliked because so many people were fooled (about the euthanization of a 12 year old)
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- tschwimmer 4y agoAt risk of sounding obtuse, what is being satirized here? Or he’s just proposing an absurd scenario?
- netr0ute 4y agoI don't know, but it sounds a lot like A Modest Proposal.
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- godelski 4y agoA modest proposal was about the English's treatment of the Irish and how their conversations come off as barbaric while mascaraing as intellectualism. So he presents a solution to the Irish problem. This in tern is making fun of weebs that want SAO but forgot the premise of the show.
- javajosh 4y agoNot funny, not good, and not satire. In fact I bet this does enough damage to Palmer's brand he takes it down and apologizes.
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- Juicyy 4y agoRemember when Palmer turned out to be the person funding alt-right internet trolls spread memes supporting Trump's propaganda all over the internet for months? Palmer gets shit on a lot for a reason.
- WillPostForFood 4y agoThe death of fun on display.
- Apocryphon 4y agoWhen you can’t pick on Gruber anymore, then that is truly the death of fun.
- systemvoltage 4y agoGruber was picking on Apple which was apparently too rude and not acceptable.
- socialismisok 4y agoYou can do comedy and satire, but if you do it badly (like Palmer did here), expect some ridicule.
- amusedcyclist 4y agoAre we supposed to find every forced attempt at satire funny ?
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- mherdeg 4y agoCarver's Gate nailed the metaverse imho. In the mid-21st century, climate change has rendered the Earth desolate and uninhabitable. People spend all their free time staring at a screen, trying to earn meaningless Internet points. Our protagonist, Michael Paré on the Sci-Fi Channel six times a week, is a troubleshooter: > My name's Carver, I'm a DreamBreaker. I police the thin line between escape and addiction. > DreamCor feeds our fantasies so we don't smell the stench of our own rotting souls. > Sound confusing? > It is. > Come one, come all. Play the AfterLife. Excitement, stimulation. Arouse those primal instincts. Live because you know death is near. The problem he's investigating is pure fantasy -- scifi tech called the Transcender is letting monsters out of the VR into the real world. And no one ever considers the obvious reason why this might work (i.e. because their own crummy real-world life is also a simulation). And okay the acting, script, and effects are not good. But they definitely nailed the tone of the Metaverse.
- moomin 4y agoDon’t Create The Torment Nexus https://mobile.twitter.com/alexblechman/status/1457842724128833538?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/alexblechman/status/1457842724128...
- everyone 4y agoDid this guy just come in his time machine from the 90's?
- niedzielski 4y agoBy the founder of Oculus. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmer_Luckey https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmer_Luckey
- uri4 4y agoThis is lame, all the risk with very bad reward. There are very realistic medieval battle reenactments. And sometimes people get injured and even die!
- aaron695 4y agoCool, Markus Copper did some stuff like this. I think after his passing there was a search for some of the sculptures that were live with explosive that could kill you if you played the game - https://www.wired.com/1995/07/the-helsinki-killer-ball/ https://www.wired.com/1995/07/the-helsinki-killer-ball/
- Apocryphon 4y agoSword Art Online isn’t even that good, from what I hear. Log Horizon is a better virtual reality isekai as far as I can tell.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y agoI never really got into SAO and haven't watched Log Horizon but in the same theme "I Hate Getting Hurt, So I Put All My Skill Points Into Defense" was pretty fun.
- madmod 4y agoFor others searching for it the short name of this anime is Bofuri. It is one of my favorites and the second season is coming out Jan 2023. Really funny plot showing unintended consequences of the protag accidentally breaking the game design to become op and some fun side scenes of frustrated developers.
- panda88888 4y agoHighly recommend bofuri. It’s a fun poke at accidental exploit of game mechanics from unusual and unexpected way of playing a MMORPG.
- M4v3R 4y agoIf you didn’t watch it and anime is something you enjoy, you definitely should give it a watch. I saw all the seasons and throughoutly enjoyed it. While the premise of the show is pretty simple, they really do it justice by showing how life would look like after spending literally years in virtual reality, how people adapt to the new situation etc.
- sensitivestuff 4y agoThey touch on wildly different genres and target a different public IMO. SAO’s main point is to have people take VR seriously. The author touched on it in his previous series (Accelworld), but it didn’t resonate as much, so he kinda repackaged it to reach the same conclusion after 4+ arcs of novels/ anime. Log Horizon feels to me less about VR and more like a sheer isekai, not unlike the many “I reincarnated into this dating sim as the villainess” kind of series we are getting in troves now.
- socialismisok 4y agoThis might the cringiest post I've seen, especially those tacky cake toppers.
- jasonmp85 4y agoYes. I cringed so hard I’m wearing my endothelial layer as skin.
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- coinbasetwwa 4y agoIt would be pretty cool if duels were still legal, you could have some elaborate game living as an abstraction over a duel to settle your fued.
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- rdl 4y agoA "one life in game per player" might be fun, though (or at least, one per multi-year game reset or something like that). Would be hard to do without something like Worldcoin's infrastructure underneath, but a sufficiently expensive piece of hardware it's tied to might be enough to make it fun.
- panda88888 4y agoOne life in game where respawn takes 10 months :)
- rdl 4y agoThe 10-20 years to restore your previous stats would be the annoying part.
- Markoff 4y agoYou are better off watching Black Mirror Playtest episode than wasting time reading this article. Btw. this is nothing new, I already proposed in my high school essay 20+ years ago we could replace airbags in cars with device which would impale the driver to encourage people to drive safely in safer and safer cars each day, which discourage people from actually driving safely (I've got D from my conservative retirement age teacher).
- fomine3 4y agoNow is the 10th anniversary from 1st SAO anime. As Palmer said, it was exactly the right time for Oculus movement.