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Honest question: Why would anyone willingly stay at Twitter? He seems extremely employee unfriendly, and it’s not like working at Twitter is some noble cause. W
by seattle_spring 4y ago
Honest question: Why would anyone willingly stay at Twitter? He seems extremely employee unfriendly, and it’s not like working at Twitter is some noble cause. Why wouldn’t you immediately go work somewhere else, assuming you’re reasonably employable?
- afavour 4y agoBecause you'll get severance if they fire you.
- halfmatthalfcat 4y agoAll Tesla employees (some who had worked there for 10+ years) who were laid off this year got 1 week severance. You think he's gonna let Twitter employees get anything of value out the door?
- fooey 4y agoAnd Tesla is being sued for WARN Act violations, which mandates 60 days severance, but it remains to be seen if they can enforce it > An employer who violates the WARN Act notice requirement is liable to each affected employee for an amount equal to back pay and benefits for the period of violation up to 60 days. An employer who fails to provide notice as required to a unit of local government is subject to a civil penalty not to exceed $500 for each day of violation. The penalty may be avoided if the employer satisfies the liability to each affected employee within three weeks after the closing. In any suit, the court, in its discretion, may allow the prevailing party a reasonable attorney’s fee as part of the costs. These are the only remedies that WARN provides. That fine might not be large enough to discourage bad actors
- Aeolun 4y agoMaybe it counts per day of violation per employee? As in, they’re all separate offences, not one offence against 1000 employees.
- fooey 4y agoAt $500 per day at a max of 60 days, you're capping out at $30,000 per employee When you're talking about thousands of employees, it gets up in the millions, but that's not much compared to the pile of cash already on fire
- Aeolun 4y agoTrue, it’s just more expensive than just paying them. There is no logical reason to not do so.
- VHRanger 4y agoIsnt Twitter in California where the WARN act applies?
- coredog64 4y agoWARN is Federal, but states can have their own stricter versions.
- tyingq 4y agoCould also be opportunity. Tumultuous times are sometimes the best environment to advance quickly. Not my cup of tea, but some ambitious folks thrive in that.
- dmak 4y agoHow could you judge what it can become before it has became? Seems premature to leave if I was an employee not getting laid off. It really depends though, if I was an employee there then I would know who was lacking and who was performing, so it would be easier to judge the merit of the layoff.
- smt88 4y agoNo Musk company has a reputation for being a good place to work. He has a business philosophy that seems to be opposed to treating employees well.
- rootusrootus 4y agoIt's a strategy. SpaceX has a reputation for mediocre pay, but if you point that out you get a whole bunch of people telling you that it's okay because it's such a privilege to work there. He wants his employees to come from his fanbase, because they're cheaper.
- shaburn 4y agoPurpose in life often comes with a price.
- ClumsyPilot 4y agoIf only there was a name for organisations whos purpose is spesifically to ensure all their resources go to a worthy cause....A charity!
- lmm 4y agoIf only charities were effective in their use of resources.
- teg4n_ 4y agoThe privilege is shooting rockets into space, not working for Musk. I hardly doubt anyone thinks it would worth it to get treated like shit _and_ work on Twitter, but I guess we'll see!
- YetAnotherNick 4y agoI have heard nothing but exceptionally good things from top performers for him. So maybe it's not so black and white after all.
- smt88 4y agoSounds like confirmation bias.
- nonethewiser 4y agoMeh. Just anecdotal evidence. Not inherently bad, just limited in what it can tell you.
- shuckles 4y agoCounter point: I am personal friends with two big name Tesla employees whose hiring and quitting were both in the press. They both despise the guy.
- jeffbee 4y agoWhy were there still thousands of engineers working at Yahoo! years after they'd done anything even slightly interesting, at the moment they got bought by a fading regional telephone company?
- shaburn 4y agoFinancial Engineering.
- toast0 4y agoI didn't last until Verizon, but Yahoo!, for better or worse, was a lot of different products with a shared user database, adsystem, package repo, and mediocre corporate management. If you were happy with your product, and corporate management wasn't involved, eh, it's fine. I might have stayed at YTravel longer if corporate meddling didn't get to me; although going to an actual small team rather than a small team in a big corp was a much better fit for me and it turned out really well.
- oaththrowaway 4y agoI know lots of really talented people still there after they got sold to PE as well.
- noelsusman 4y agoSeverance. Otherwise yeah, I'd be out of there on Monday if I was unlucky enough to survive the layoffs tomorrow.