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Twitter is already improved IMHO: The "sign in or sign up" nag screen is gone for me!
by skhr0680 4y ago
Twitter is already improved IMHO: The "sign in or sign up" nag screen is gone for me!
- cdchn 4y agoIt just appeared for me clicking a link in this post.
- jwlake 4y agoWow, best change in years.
- drexlspivey 4y agoThank god, I stopped clicking twitter links due to this crap
- dmix 4y agoReddit and Instagram is even worse. Besides cookie boxes (which all have different UIs and rarely a good no button) it's probably the most annoying thing on an ad-blocked internet. How do the designers who work at these tech companies not understand that repeatedly annoying non-user visitors doesn't make them want to sign up? Nor incentivize others to link to it?
- AlexandrB 4y agoI think these things come about because of A/B testing. The metric being optimized is probably "app installs" or "account creations" and the negative side effects of driving a bunch of users off are not considered/measured.
- dmix 4y agoIndeed, short term metrics vs long term hatred. I know how it happens, I've designed many a KPI. Something so fundamental and important as the default non-user first-exerpience (not just a 'signup flow') should be evaluated more holistically than just looking at numbers. But I guess when you have layers of middle managers it's safer to point to a spreadsheet than make hard choices.
- quintu5 4y agoThis is why I never touch new reddit or visit the site on mobile. It's old reddit + ublock origin on desktop and a third-party app on mobile every time.
- tmh88j 4y agoTry using i.reddit.com on mobile, it's a bit more tolerable.
- mdaEyebot 4y agoConsidering where their revenue comes from, have you considered that they may not want people who run ad-blockers to sign up? They'll tolerate you if you produce content to help keep the paying users engaged, but plenty of businesses choose not to pursue customers who are unlikely to generate profit.
- dmix 4y agoWhat do ad blockers have to do with invasive sign up modals? They show up regardless. I think you missed the point.
- DeltaCoast 4y agoAgreed. I've noticed instagram and reddit over the last year have really tried to squeeze the last bit of growth it can by blocking non registered visitors from using the site past a couple of clicks. I get that it's their server resources I'm using up but for some reason the way they do it just aggravates me.
- delecti 4y agoNon-technical non-users are not dissuaded, they sign up. Technical non-users using adblock aren't profitable conversions anyway, so "who cares?" is an entirely reasonable decision for the PO/PM who made it.
- criddell 4y agoWhen a sign-in-to-see-the-thing-you-just-searched-for shows up, I take it as a sign that the company isn't doing very well. If you've ran out of good ideas for driving growth, you start considering the bad ideas.
- drewbeck 4y agoDo you have numbers for the claim that this behavior doesn’t incentivize sign up? I’d guess that for most folks it indeed does — at some point you get annoyed enough to go through with the sign up process. These sites never log you out so it’s a one time thing. I personally am not inspired to sign up in these situations but I’d guess the numbers show that I’m in the minority.
- ok_dad 4y agoEven fucking Google keeps putting a half-page pop-up on my iPhone saying "WANT TO SIGN IN, OR JUST KEEP SEARCHING 'ANONYMOUSLY' LIKE A CHUMP?" or something just as fucking annoying.
- noizejoy 4y agoThe Guardian does something similar.
- ok_dad 4y agoYea, and the annoying part about Google is that you know that they know you're user X, just not logged in. They know I am logged in to several different accounts from this IP, they know I search for similar stuff under those accounts as I do when not logged in, etc. I feel like it would be more honest for Google to write something like, "Hey, ok_dad, we know it's you, just log in so we can save your porn searches to your account properly, rather than having to do data mining on your nasty habits."
- Railander 4y ago> repeatedly annoying non-user visitors doesn't make them want to sign up? It absolutely does, and that is precisely why they keep doing it. It doesn't work for the kinds of people that browse hackernews, but that's not their core audience anyway. It's like saying ads don't work because you and me never click them because we use an adblock. Clearly they do work, and quite well...
- malermeister 4y agohttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/breakthrough-twitter-loginwall/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/breakthrough-... Enjoy :)
- dave78 4y agoI looked at Musk's feed and it did not appear, but just now clicked on one of the other Twitter links in this thread and got hit with it almost immediately. Maybe the change is still being rolled out? Maybe it was just a fluke? Maybe it doesn't appear on certain people's feeds for one reason or another?
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- dirheist 4y agoProlly not pushed to your local edge location, my version of twitter updated and it no longer shows the pop up screen yet it still shows the blue bar at the bottom of the page (which is fine imo)
- coffeeblack 4y agoI am still seeing it too, looked at Musk’s feed while being logged out. I am in Europe.
- nobleach 4y agoIt is for me until I scroll down.
- encryptluks2 4y agoSame... doesn't really help if you can't scroll down and read tweets without being prompted to sign in.
- drstewart 4y agohttps://www.theverge.com/2022/10/30/23430008/elon-musk-twitter-homepage-subscriptions-changes https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/30/23430008/elon-musk-twitt... >He requested that logged out users visiting Twitter.com be redirected to the Explore page that shows trending tweets and news stories, according to employees familiar with the matter who requested anonymity to speak without the company’s permission. Before, visiting Twitter’s homepage while logged out showed only a sign-up form,
- whiplash451 4y agoThat change is welcome. The previous setup was really obnoxious.
- simonw 4y agoInteresting commentary on this from someone who used to work at Twitter: - https://twitter.com/joshelman/status/1586812933043933184 https://twitter.com/joshelman/status/1586812933043933184 > Changing the logged out home page of Twitter to show more content is likely one of those “easy fixes” that has symbolic effect but very little to no metrics effect. I ran A/B tests on this in 2010. Usually the best way to grow Twitter active users is make people sign up first
- shwoopdiwoop 4y agoIf it has no effect on metrics but removes as major annoyance for users, why would you not have done that in the first place?
- cercatrova 4y agoTechnical people, especially engineers and those on HN, hate sign up forms but having grown a product to X thousand users, the more you push the sign up form, the more people sign up. You can even plot a linear relationship between the two, which I've done before.
- joegahona 4y agoI noticed the same thing in the world of publishing (both print and online). It's the reasons pop-ups have never gone away -- they work. It's the reason those annoying inserts in print magazines that fall in your lap have never gone away -- they work.
- SanjayMehta 4y agoI switched to the nitter client long ago, but that's down today due to a cert error. https://nitter.net https://nitter.net Other instances here: https://xnaas.github.io/nitter-instances/ https://xnaas.github.io/nitter-instances/
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- greenie_beans 4y agoit's gotten worse for me. i can't access it. in a browser that's always logged in, i try to visit any page on the site and get a page that says "Something went wrong, but don't fret — let's give it another shot." the site works whenever i login via a fresh, private browser session. for a minute i thought i was blocked after muting the words "elon" and "musk"
- zimpenfish 4y agoI had that yesterday in Safari - clearing all the caches and closing every Twitter tab (I somehow had 5 open) meant that it worked when I opened a new one. Maybe something Service Worker-y? Have had that issue with the Twitter before.
- duxup 4y agoI’m still getting it…
- georgeg23 4y agoMaybe OP signed up for Twitter :)
- AlexandrB 4y agoIt seems inconsistent now. Sometimes I can scroll for minutes with nothing and other times I get the sign-up pop up right away. Or was it always this way?
- infotogivenm 4y agoIts been that way at least 6 months. If you click Login then a close button finally appears in the top left. Garbage piece of shit UX.
- matkoniecz 4y agoI am still getting it
- nullandvoid 4y agoThis is a nice change, I refused to click on any twitter links before. Feels weird scrolling twitter without the terrible log in CTA every action.
- tester756 4y agoI wish. Doesnt work for me
- rideontime 4y agoLove seeing the confirmation bias from people who expect Musk to improve Twitter on day one.
- YetAnotherNick 4y agoWhat? Confirmation bias comes when interpreting some random thing as evidence. This is intention change by him.
- rideontime 4y agoAs you can see from the many other replies, this change predates his purchase.
- jasondigitized 4y agoThat 'feature' never made sense to me. "You always miss the advertising shots you don't take" when you force people to sign up first.
- colinmhayes 4y agoI’m sure they crunched the numbers and found that the gain from targeted ads toward the people that sign up is bigger than the loss of people who don’t use Twitter because of the annoyance. Instagram is even worse for what it’s worth.
- Fervicus 4y agoI still see the annoying sign up/login pop up if I scroll down while viewing someone's twitter feed on the web.