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I'm guessing that if a rich, white or Asian tech worker decided to loot a Walgreens, they would get the book thrown at them. Look at the small business owners
by pclmulqdq 4y ago
I'm guessing that if a rich, white or Asian tech worker decided to loot a Walgreens, they would get the book thrown at them. Look at the small business owners in New York who get arrested and charged with everything possible by the DA's office for defending themselves (until public pressure forces them to back down). That's where we are. This is what the people voted for, though.
- x86x87 4y agoI mean... Are you saying that there is social inequality? There is a risk/reward analysis that should go into the decision to loot a Walgreens. If you have nothing to lose or are desperate you're more likely to give 0 fucks and the system just has to deal with you.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoI'm saying that the way we run society tilts that risk/reward payoff absurdly in favor of reward for a certain class of people by eliminating their risk. That is, by definition, unjust.
- jacobolus 4y agoThis is total nonsense. Wealthy professionals regularly get away with much more egregious thefts than petty shoplifting, the police do a lot more harassment of poor people than rich people, and lack of response to shoplifting is not about race.
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- junofan 4y agoWhat’s lack of response to shoplifting about? I would like it to end.
- hattmall 4y agoResources, risk v reward. Unless you go with something like broken window theory and wish to use shoplifting to ultimately deter more serious crimes, it's not worth enforcing via government action. If you want to know where shop lifting is taken seriously, it's Walmart. If you steal from Walmart, they know it, they know who you are and it goes in your file. They will bust you at a felony amount level with all the evidence documented and wait until you are somewhere in a jurisdiction they know will prosecute. They will trespass you and have their LPs hold you and the off duty cop they employ transport you.
- giantg2 4y ago"to ultimately deter more serious crimes" I'd say it's pretty serious when it's to the point that places are going our of business because of it. Any business can expect some shrinkage, but when that number surpasses rhe already low margins in most industries...
- dahfizz 4y agoGood. It's pathetic that private companies have to take the law into their own hands. Thiefs should go to jail. Crime is bad for society.
- junofan 4y agoThere are no Walmarts in SF. I would love to see that approach in SF.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoThere's a reason there are no Walmarts in SF.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoWhat thefts do software engineers regularly get away with? I've never heard of a software engineer committing wage theft, for example. I'm not saying that police should hassle someone for sleeping on the street. I'm saying they should arrest people for stealing stuff. That's not harassment. That's justice.
- CydeWeys 4y agoHuh? You don't even know what wage theft is.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoI do know what wage theft is, and I am well aware that software engineers aren't generally in a position to do it. The people who commit most of the wage theft are small business owners (who have employees to steal wages from), who are usually poorer than software engineers. Wage theft is the go-to example of people who say "shoplifting doesn't hold a candle to the thefts the rich do," so I was preempting that argument.
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- heavyset_go 4y agoWhy would they loot a Walgreens when they could loot the payroll? Wage theft is the most common form of theft[1] in the country and it's almost completely unenforced. [1] https://www.epi.org/publication/wage-theft-bigger-problem-forms-theft-workers/ https://www.epi.org/publication/wage-theft-bigger-problem-fo...
- whatshisface 4y agoTech workers can't commit wage theft.
- heavyset_go 4y agoI wouldn't consider tech workers rich, rich people tend to own significant assets, often businesses, and don't have to work.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoMake no mistake, tech workers are rich. Many small business owners (who do commit lots of wage theft) have fewer assets and lower incomes. Also, tech workers don't commit very many crimes.
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- 1123581321 4y agoReal payroll doesn't work like in Andor, or the old American West. :) You have to be in a position to personally profit by convincing your employees to underreport their time.
- Scoundreller 4y ago> Wage Theft is a Much Bigger Problem Than Other Forms of Theft—But Workers Remain Mostly Unprotected > wage-theft-bigger-problem-forms-theft-workers/ Swing and a miss on the Clean URL auto-generator
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