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DaVinci Resolve for iPad

505 points by dagmx 4y ago

onebot 4y ago
Love this!!! I am huge DaVinci fan because it runs cross-platform (yes linux too). The price is amazing for such a high quality product. Need to see what you really can do on the iPad, I doubt the VFX stuff is there. But this is great.
post_break 4y ago
Pretty incredible this can come out before Final Cut Pro for iPad.
- jbverschoor 4y ago
  apple has some real issues since about a year or two
- birdman3131 4y ago
  Its not out yet.
  - BudaDude 4y ago
    It will be before Final Cut most likely
- ExMachina73 4y ago
  I think this shows that Final Cut Pro on iPad was never really in the cards. Furthermore, Apple is using this Davinci Resolve release in their own marketing materials. I love Final Cut Pro, but as time goes by it seems like it's headed the way of Aperture, after competitors like Adobe Lightroom took over the marketshare - cancellation. Especially when other developers are creating great software like Resolve and LumaFusion. Not to mention hundreds of film editors wrote an open letter to Tim Cook "begging for Final Cut Pro commitment."
  - TheRealNGenius 4y ago
Ruq 4y ago
Ok, this is a pretty big deal.
- BudaDude 4y ago
  Agreed. iPad pros have had a serious lack of professional video editing software. This may be the thing that makes me buy an iPad Pro.
Valgrim 4y ago
Simple question here: Video files are HUGE. An iPad, even with a fairly large storage for a tablet, would be quickly swamped by the files, and to transfer the RAW video files to and from the device would make it quite frustrating. Is there a way to connect an external drive on an iPad?
- VanTheBrand 4y ago
  All usb-c iPads support external drives and the old lightning ones have limited support with an adapter
- dmicah 4y ago
  Sounds like it from their description ("USB-C media disks"): Supported file formats include H.264, H.265, Apple ProRes and Blackmagic RAW, with clips able to be imported from the iPad Pro internal storage and Photos library, or externally connected iCloud and USB-C media disks.
- asadlionpk 4y ago
  Yup, the drive shows up in the Files app when mounted.
- andrewmunsell 4y ago
  Presumably, you could edit using proxies on your iPad and only have those actually synced to the iPad itself for space saving. It's not 1:1 to your source footage, but depending on how you encoded the proxy it certainly would be good enough for cutting footage on the go and you could sync the project back to your computer to continue working.
  - Melatonic 4y ago
    Yeah proxies would be the way to go with this - that or short form content. You could easily have a bunch of high quality videos on an iPad to edit a single 2 or 3 minute video which may be their target audience here. Once you are done send those high quality source files up to a cloud storage and delete them locally. Personally I am still waiting for someone to really get the proxy workflow right - it still requires too much manual control and planning. Someone needs to create a very robust asset management plane that does a better job of autolinking files when they are accidentality unlinked (could be easily done with a simple AI analyzing video content of different files along with an audio analyzer).
VanTheBrand 4y ago
One of the things that makes this a big deal is an iPad is often the most color accurate highest quality display anyone has.
- Ancapistani 4y ago
  Yep. I do almost of my photo editing on my iPad for this reason. For video I've been using my iPad as an external display and color grading in Resolve.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  You don't realize how extremely off consumer monitors are until you compare it to a calibrated one like the ipad.
  - exodust 4y ago
    > extremely off consumer monitors are... I'm not sure what consumer monitors you're using, but they are certainly not "extremely off". You're making it sound like shades of green on the iPad turn into muddy brown on a monitor, which isn't true.
    - Gigachad 4y ago
      I had the ipad connected to a $700 LG monitor and the LG one was much much redder than the ipad, the difference was significant. It's fine for programming, gaming, and content consumption, but if you were doing any visual production work, this is unusable.
      - exodust 4y ago
        So calibrate your LG. (something you can't do on your iPad). > "but if you were doing any visual production work..." ...then you would press the menu button on your monitor and adjust so that your monitor is usable. The default settings on your LG do not represent every monitor out there. A lot of monitors have good out-of-box colour. > $700 LG The monitor market is competitive. Watch reviews and choose a monitor with good out-of-box colour if you can't be bothered calibrating. Something like the ASUS Proart, or numerous others.
gespadas 4y ago
This is awesome!!! It's great to have this option as an alternative on-the-go.
retskrad 4y ago
Apple massively increased the price of the the entire iPad line-up in Europe. It's going to be interesting to see what impact it will have on Apple's earnings. Will Apple's goodwill make people accept the new prices or will Apple's brand take a hit for increasing the price in times where people are financially vulnerable?
- simonh 4y ago
  Given that keeping prices the same would weigh down their earnings as well, since they're reported in dollars, the financial impact of this is not a simple thing to calculate.
  - haunter 4y ago
    Oh wow company makes $1,7b profit instead of $1,9b. The end is near. Capitalism is really a cancer when the only thing matters is growth growth and growth. The Facebook movie was really spot on with the "A million dollars isn't cool. You know what's cool? A billion" line
    - hemantv 4y ago
      Hate capitalism as much as you want. But it's the only system that consistently uplift people and improve standard of living over time. It's the best system among all the bad systems out there.
      - wahnfrieden 4y ago
        sounds like hardened political rhetoric to me and classical capitalist realism - no place for that here
        dijonman2 4y ago
        How does your comment differ from your own judgement?
Jamesmoorez 4y ago
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clean_send 4y ago
This is incredible on so many fronts. 5-10 years ago, I would choose my computer based on it's potential to edit video. A decade ago, most laptops couldn't handle the load of uncompressed video. 5 years ago, having iMovie on your Ipad allowed us to make sub <5 minute videos of low-res/processed files. Now we have an intersection of 1. an Ipad is powerful enough to handle this type of data processing and 2. BMD has found ways of dealing with the huge file sizes and rendering / editing in real time. Unreal. I imagined this would come some day but not today.
- simonh 4y ago
  We're still getting used to how much things have changed in the M1+ era.
- bitL 4y ago
  How is iPad going to handle RAW 8k video? Its highest storage is small, good only for a scratch disk at best or for very short movies.
  - yieldcrv 4y ago
    I don't think it is the tool for the job
    - dylan604 4y ago
      I don't think it is the tool for that job, but for footage acquired on the iPad it will do just fine thank you very much. The iPads are being used for shooting way more frequently than I'd have given credit, until I realize that if an iPad was available back when I was unable to afford other equipment, I'd have used the hell out of it too. We shot the shit out of VHS=>SVHS=>Hi8=>Digi8=>DV/MiniDV as if it were film. Now, there's image stabilization, light as a feather, prices are a fraction of prior so for the price of one thing you can get like 3 or 4, and then consider them crash cams, etc. Then when you get done shooting, there's 0 time wasted on transfering to your editor as your friggin camera is the editor and the color corrector. I mean, why the hell would you not do this if you're a broke ass college film student. hell, even elementary school kids could be doing this. it's mind boggling what kids have at their finger tips now.
andrewmunsell 4y ago
I've used LumaFusion for years since it's the only real editor option on the iPad. They took forever to launch vector scopes and they still don't have keyframe easing or basic speed ramping, so it's good to see some competition here. The syncing feature may just push me to use Resolve full time, since it'd let me do basic cutting and even color grading on the iPad and any intensive work on my computer seamlessly.
mortenjorck 4y ago
This is "only" two of the seven modules included in the desktop version, but even just one would be a breakthrough on the iPad. The full DaVinci Resolve is nuts: it covers a complete, Hollywood-level workflow of DAM, editing, grading, sound, and VFX (with probably the most generous freemium model in existence, by a good margin). The iPad version covers one of the two edit workflows (the one more tailored to broadcast than film) and color grading, which will cover quite a few use cases without anything else. I can especially see this being used by serious YouTubers and independent content creators. I wonder if the asset management module is planned, as that would seem to be the next-most broadly useful module.
- DoctorOW 4y ago
  Even when Resolve was only ever those two modules (and back then the edit was pretty basic) I thought it was incredibly good. DaVinci's dedication to publishing free (of charge) software is one of the few things keeping Adobe in check.
  - Melatonic 4y ago
    My problem was I always found it to have weird holdovers in terms of UI from hardware integration days of colour correctors. Hopefully that is gone now. But for example you used to not be able to just drag your full screen viewing window to a second monitor - they forced you to get their little hardware PCIe card. Given that most Nvidia cards will do 10 bit colour now with the studio drivers I hope they have rethought this.
    - dylan604 4y ago
      They prefer for the GPU cores to be doing math rather than displaying image. That's why you can get away with the GPU not being in a full lane width slot. The little PCIe did more than just send out an HDMI signal back then as well, as most of it went to an SDI or even older analog component BNCs. No GPU I've ever seen has had those connectors.
      - 4y ago
CharlesW 4y ago
This is a good reference for anyone complaining that the new iPad is "too powerful", which happened a bunch in the recent announcement threads. Yes, not everyone's going to be editing 8K video on their iPad, but everything that makes that possible makes lots of other current and future advanced use cases possible. For example, the lidar sensor foreshadows that the iPad has an important part in Apple's mixed reality plans.
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- SSLy 4y ago
  > For example, the lidar sensor foreshadows that the iPad has an important part in Apple's mixed reality plans. The LIDAR is there to serve as a playground for the app developers, including in-house. A glorified dev board. I doubt iPads themselves will be a part of Apple's XR plans.
  - CharlesW 4y ago
    > I doubt iPads themselves will be a part of Apple's XR plans. iPads are serving as a proxy for the Reality headset today. Meaning, you can go to https://www.apple.com/augmented-reality/ https://www.apple.com/augmented-reality/ right now to get a preview of how Apple will be selling Reality to customers. We don't yet know how Reality will work with iPads/iPhones, but one can read the tea leaves by thinking about how Apple will leverage technologies like Handoff, Continuity, AirPlay, etc. It's not crazy to think that Reality will leverage nearby devices for storage, connectivity, and even compute and GPU. In other words: Rather than wondering if iPads will be part of Apple's MR plans, I recommend thinking about how iPads will increasingly be part of Apple's MR plans.
lvl102 4y ago
This is nice but any serious video editor would use a Macbook instead no? Why bother with this version?
- BudaDude 4y ago
  The biggest reason would be the portability. If you are on a plane, using an iPad is often much easier than a full laptop.
  - dopa42365 4y ago
    List of people color grading hollywood movies on their ipad during plane flights:
    - ancientworldnow 4y ago
      Steven Soderbergh has edited full feature films on a flight and I wouldn't be surprised to see him attempt to color grade them as well. Of course he's better as Steven than Peter Andrews so who knows what quality his color pseudonym would be.
    - BudaDude 4y ago
      Not Hollywood, but professional Youtuber's and journalists edit their videos on planes. MKBHD comes to mind.
  - Cadwhisker 4y ago
    It's also the portability with a colour-accurate HDR screen. That's a pretty huge step-up from what most laptops can do.
- twobitshifter 4y ago
  Apple Pencil is iPad only
  - NonNefarious 4y ago
lostgame 4y ago
Embarrassing that this exists before Apple gets its own Final Cut Pro on their so-called 'iPad Pro'. Never understood how they could have the audacity to call it an iPad 'Pro' when none of Apple's actual by-name 'Pro' software was - or, to this date - 5 years later - still is. No 'Logic Pro', no 'Final Cut Pro'...still no Xcode, either. Other than illustrators/designers, can someone please explain to me what 'Pro' can use an iPad 'Pro' for any serious professional-grade tasks? The mind boggles. Similar to a game console, I purchase hardware for the software it can run. I don't care if it's as powerful as my equivalent MacBook Pro; because there's nothing I can use to take advantage of that power.
- whyenot 4y ago
  DaVinci hasn't been released yet. This is an announcement that it will be released for iPad in Q4. FCP could still be released first.
  - rcarr 4y ago
    Come on, this is disingenuous. If it was going to be released first it would have been the software shown off in the promo videos. They wouldn’t show a competitor if they were about to drop one of their flagship pieces of software on iPad for the first time, they’d be making a song and dance of it.
eole666 4y ago
This is nice, but it's not that incredible : Windows tablets running Resolve smoothly exists since many years (Surface Pro), and they do run the full davinci resolve suite on top of an actual desktop OS. On the other hand, M1/M2 ipads pro should be way more powerfull than the Surfaces if you need to do some heavy editing/color grading. And it seems they optimized this version for the pencil use.
teeray 4y ago
So excited for this. I really love editing photos on my iPad in Lightroom... I find it relaxing. Much more so than if I had to grab my laptop to do it. Looking forward to doing the same with my drone footage now.
lencastre 4y ago
Asking for a friend who is amateur, how does this compare to LumaTouch’s LumaFusion?
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  It's a full-blown editing, VFX, and grading package, used for some really heavy-duty productions. If you don't want to edit larger than 4k resolution, the free-as-in-beer version does nearly everything else that the paid-for one does. The paid-for one is about 200 quid. The training materials (I've linked to them below) are second to none, not just for video editing tools but for any software I've ever seen. Have a look at them - there are some training videos and several very comprehensive books backed up with high-quality sample material. On a PC, you'll need a decent graphics card but I managed with a Core i5-4570, 16GB of RAM, and a GT1030 - I am a patient man, though, and don't mind kicking off a render and going for a cup of tea with a good book. Dig through the training material: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve/training https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve/...
rcarr 4y ago
Does anyone know what stabiliser they used in the promos when they were showing off the iPad Pro filming the car and then editing the footage in DaVinci?
jokoon 4y ago
I tried it something like 1 or 2 years ago, it crashed. I don't if there are CPU or GPU requirements.
- mkr-hn 4y ago
  How could you try something that didn't exist?
  - POPOSYS 4y ago
    As a pro developer you should have known that he is talking about the famous Error 666: Software does not exist yet - exiting This crash was annoying so many people - finally BMD did something about it!
  - jokoon 4y ago
    not talking about the ipad version, obviously
    - mkr-hn 4y ago
      Then what's the relevance of the comment about stability? This thread is about the coming iPad version. It's reasonable to assume you're talking about it (or confused and in the wrong place), given that's the topic of the submission. Desktop video editors are notoriously unstable (assuming since you didn't specify). It's probably not the same codebase, and it'll be operating under clearer constraints the developers can target for maximum stability and performance.
      - jokoon 4y ago
        yeah okay just saying the desktop version crashed after launching it hope it's fixed now in the mean time, I can use avidemux and other things to do simple video editing I'm very sorry if my irrelevant comment upset you
Forgeties79 4y ago
Man BMD has been absolutely crushing it the last 2 years or so. The number of people I see jumping to resolve as their main NLE is staggering. They were often mocked when they jumped into the cinema camera game in the early 2010s and now their imaging hardware is a production mainstay at all levels of the industry. I am very curious to see how their foray into iOS goes here. Could be huge. Frankly I just feel like I lack the imagination for what this opens up. Can’t wait to experiment!
oDot 4y ago
In a fairly related note -- if there's an available editor here that knows anime style and pacing, please let me know where I can see your stuff
z9znz 4y ago
Has anyone here used an iPad as their primary editing tool? Unless one were really constrained by weight or items, I don't know why someone wouldn't just edit on their Macbook. I think it's great that you can do this on an iPad; I just wonder how useful it really is. The Macbook Air is pretty small and lightweight already. It would be interesting to see a side by side editing session comparison with two people, one using an iPad, and the other using a laptop.
teamspirit 4y ago
Now if we can just get Logic (with VSTs). I'd love to leave my MBP at home when I'm on the road and still be able to write music.
- seanw444 4y ago
  Full-fledged mobile DAW is one thing I'm surprised doesn't really exist. That would make so much money. I know I'm not the only person that gets sudden ideas that need to be expressed audibly before the inspiration is gone, on the go.
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  - teamspirit 4y ago
    Far from full fledged but I just discovered that Cubase has something for iOS and Android. I got really excited until I remembered how hindered I'd be without VSTs, particularly since I mostly score orchestral. I do believe the day is fast approaching though I was hoping it was going to be with this iteration.
- thewebcount 4y ago
  I use GarageBand with AudioUnits on my iPad all the time. It works pretty well, though they do make the AudioUnits hard to find. Obviously it doesn't have all the features of Logic (which I also use on my Mac Pro), but it's surprisingly good. And, you can take stuff from GB into Logic later if you want to punch it up or do something that's not possible on the iPad.
  - teamspirit 4y ago
    You know, I just discovered GarageBand on the iPad myself and I have to say I was impressed. Too bad my 4th gen air has lighting as a connector, otherwise I'd pop in a USB c hub and attach my little NI m32 and be rocking! With that, it would be enough to at least draft ideas on the road.
darkteflon 4y ago
To all the experienced DVR users: does it have good native media management capabilities? I’m an FCPX user and always felt that was a big black mark against FCPX. For instance, it seems designed to manage your media on a per-project basis, and can’t easily be shoehorned into having a single large (organised) library accessible from many loosely-coupled projects. Disconnected original media drives don’t have graceful failure states - even when using a local proxy workflow. Tagging, sorting and displaying large media libraries always feels quite cumbersome. That kind of thing. Keen to hear whether DVR is more sensible - I’m quite keen to give it a go if so.
taylorbuley 4y ago
Another easy way to use Resolve for free. Anyone here can and should use Resolve for quick and dirty color correction. Like having a good mic, it really makes your video stand out in terms of quality.
FractalHQ 4y ago
Too bad iPad OS is a joke. A gutted version of a real software program running on an M1 should not be exciting news in 2021.
scottlamb 4y ago
> Supported file formats include H.264, H.265, Apple ProRes and Blackmagic RAW, with clips able to be imported from the iPad Pro internal storage and Photos library, or externally connected iCloud and USB-C media disks. Since it runs on an iPad, I assume it uses the system libraries to support H.264 files properly, but I can't pass up the chance to grumble about the HyperDeck Studio Mini. It says it supports H.264 files, then you find this deep in the manual: “HyperDeck Studio Mini will play back H.264 files recorded on a HyperDeck Studio Mini, but not H.264 files recorded on other video equipment.” —https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/HyperDeckManual.pdf https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/HyperDeck... Also, it pretends the files it doesn't like don't exist at all, rather than telling you.
- Cadwhisker 4y ago
  H.264 playback for generally rendered content was improved in release 8.1.1, according to the release notes.
dharma1 4y ago
Grant (the founder of Blackmagic) is incredible, one of my favourite CEOs. I’ve had Blackmagic pocket cameras since the first one and they are something else. Resolve (non-studio version) being free on desktop is nuts - it’s one of the best pieces of software I use. The value this company gives away to creators for free (or at very affordable price point) is unparalleled
- coolandsmartrr 4y ago
  Blackmagic offers a great lineup for prosumers entering into professional gear territory. Their Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera is an indie production darling, picked by many upcoming film directors and cinematographers. I use one myself, and I appreciate how its raw format output provides flexibility to adjust colors. I edit them in Davinci Resolve, one of the best software for color grading also made by Blackmagic.
WrtCdEvrydy 4y ago
Holy shit, this is free and will be available on iOS devices!
robbrown451 4y ago
I've tried to use Resolve (on other platforms). I am quite competent in, for instance, ScreenFlow for the mac. Works great for regular video editing (not just screen capture stuff), and while there is a lot to learn, it is quite intuitive. Unfortunatley my mac is old and I need windows for work, so I thought Resolve would come to the rescue. But I just can't wrap my head around the Resolve workflow. To do really basic stuff it seems to have a huge learning curve. I have no doubt it is powerful, but there is a point where I just can't justify the time to learn it. (I use a lot of video in my job as well as hobby/family stuff, but I'm not a professional video editor per se) Is this anyone else's experience? Is it really only targeted at professionals? I was very excited to see that they are giving away such a sophisticated product for free, but man....
- Cadwhisker 4y ago
  I'm an amateur, using Resolve for holiday/family clips. It took one or two YouTube tutorials for me to get it, but I've got a smooth workflow now. * Create project *and set the frame rate before importing video clips, because you can't change it once you've got clips*. * Choose "DaVinci YRGB Color Managed" under project settings, Color Managment - this is more flexible for coloring later on. * Add your media, then choose any clip(s), right-click and and create timeline from it. * Use NLE functions to make the edit. * Color grade (and stabilise clips). - Turn on Scopes -> Waveform (UI bottom right) and set the white balance by dragging the 'dot' in the middle of the Offset wheel. You want the red/green/blue waves to overlap where there's a region of grey/white in your video frame. This can be tough if you have no grey/white, but you can copy color settings from other clips. - Adjust other settings as necessary. * Deliver/export.
exodust 4y ago
The best way to use DaVinci Resolve is on a desktop PC with ultrawide monitor and one of the controllers such as the DaVinci Resolve Speed Editor. I own that controller and it's great. I really wanted to like editing videos on the couch on my iPad Pro (2018 model) 12inch with pencil in LumaFusion, and it's cool at first because "editing on an iPad".. then screen real estate reality set in. For me anyway. Video editing tasks and projects vary greatly in scope, and some projects would be great on the iPad. Maybe I'll try again later, but after getting an ultrawide monitor I discovered that yes, I really do want a timeline that wide.
bigwheeler 4y ago
I love the idea of editing on an iPad if it means not always having to carry a laptop around, especially on set or while out shooting. But there’s a pretty significant roadblock preventing that workflow- there’s still no way to get your footage off of your camera and on to an external drive (to plug into the iPad) without a laptop.
- hatware 4y ago
  Most cameras can plug directly into the iPad.
  - orloffm 4y ago
    So how do you move files from cameras to external USB-C drives? By having a dock/splitter that allows to connect both at the same time?
    - jrickert 4y ago
      Yeah, a USB-C hub should do it. Also some cameras record directly to USB-C drives.
n0t3ths81 4y ago
Jamesmoorez 4y ago
Bakary 4y ago
I'm curious about professionals who do actually productive work on a tablet or even phone format. The touch screen or color calibration can be helpful, but you could probably use the money spent on an iPad in getting those extra features for your desktop or laptop. If you are a remote worker on the move, having a mobile setup would be well worth it and perhaps your only option, but the experience of getting any work done seems so woeful.
- ancientworldnow 4y ago
  A lot of film work is done on set and mobility is important. Currently high end productions who'll use DIT (digital imaging technician) carts which quickly become unwieldly. While this one replace all those setups, in certain scenarios where you need to be mobile and fast (branded docs, smaller crews, etc) a smaller highly mobile setup becomes ideal.
TradingPlaces 4y ago
This is going to be wildly popular on film/TV sets
imagetic 4y ago
It's awesome to see such a widespread response from outside the video production industry. Blackmagic has been charging ahead with Resolve development and managed to carve a niche of the industry most people thought was impossible. I'm excited about the possibilities this could bring. For now I mostly just have a lot of questions. This sounds like it will be for smaller production work, like vlog/podcast/promo shorts where the iPads limited storage will be capable. The cut page is a nifty idea, it makes tasks like interview string-outs and cut-downs a fairly straightforward process. I don't know a single editor who uses it though. Color wise, assuming I can sync my stills and take the iPad on the go, would be useful in some scenarios. But that's an expensive commodity. Generally when we go to color, it requires far more storage than an iPad is capable of. I want to love it. But right now, I'm far more skeptical of its real world usefulness. I mostly just have a lot of workflow questions. I was personally hoping for something that was more of an extension of the desktop app than a standalone product. One thing Blackmagic needs to do is bring the advanced Resolve features into the support realm and workflow documentation. The collaboration server and the cloud sync are mystery products. There's almost no formal support or documentation on how they work, how to solve a sync issue or overwrite when they happen, or to get actual feedback on issues from real engineers.
bofh23 4y ago
Web publishing aside: Why do sites like this totally neglect the page title and meta attributes for sharing in social media such as Open Graph? At bare minimum, why not include <title>Blackmagic Design Announces DaVinci Resolve for iPad</title> in the <head> element? I checked the page with Facebook’s Sharing Debugger and found: og:title: Media | Blackmagic Design og:description: All items on this website are copyright […]

505 points by dagmx 4y ago

Love this!!! I am huge DaVinci fan because it runs cross-platform (yes linux too). The price is amazing for such a high quality product. Need to see what you really can do on the iPad, I doubt the VFX stuff is there. But this is great.

post_break 4y ago

Pretty incredible this can come out before Final Cut Pro for iPad.

jbverschoor 4y ago
apple has some real issues since about a year or two
birdman3131 4y ago
Its not out yet.
- BudaDude 4y ago
  It will be before Final Cut most likely
ExMachina73 4y ago
I think this shows that Final Cut Pro on iPad was never really in the cards. Furthermore, Apple is using this Davinci Resolve release in their own marketing materials. I love Final Cut Pro, but as time goes by it seems like it's headed the way of Aperture, after competitors like Adobe Lightroom took over the marketshare - cancellation. Especially when other developers are creating great software like Resolve and LumaFusion. Not to mention hundreds of film editors wrote an open letter to Tim Cook "begging for Final Cut Pro commitment."
- TheRealNGenius 4y ago

Ruq 4y ago

Ok, this is a pretty big deal.

BudaDude 4y ago
Agreed. iPad pros have had a serious lack of professional video editing software. This may be the thing that makes me buy an iPad Pro.

Valgrim 4y ago

Simple question here: Video files are HUGE. An iPad, even with a fairly large storage for a tablet, would be quickly swamped by the files, and to transfer the RAW video files to and from the device would make it quite frustrating. Is there a way to connect an external drive on an iPad?

VanTheBrand 4y ago
All usb-c iPads support external drives and the old lightning ones have limited support with an adapter
dmicah 4y ago
Sounds like it from their description ("USB-C media disks"): Supported file formats include H.264, H.265, Apple ProRes and Blackmagic RAW, with clips able to be imported from the iPad Pro internal storage and Photos library, or externally connected iCloud and USB-C media disks.
asadlionpk 4y ago
Yup, the drive shows up in the Files app when mounted.
andrewmunsell 4y ago
Presumably, you could edit using proxies on your iPad and only have those actually synced to the iPad itself for space saving. It's not 1:1 to your source footage, but depending on how you encoded the proxy it certainly would be good enough for cutting footage on the go and you could sync the project back to your computer to continue working.
- Melatonic 4y ago
  Yeah proxies would be the way to go with this - that or short form content. You could easily have a bunch of high quality videos on an iPad to edit a single 2 or 3 minute video which may be their target audience here. Once you are done send those high quality source files up to a cloud storage and delete them locally. Personally I am still waiting for someone to really get the proxy workflow right - it still requires too much manual control and planning. Someone needs to create a very robust asset management plane that does a better job of autolinking files when they are accidentality unlinked (could be easily done with a simple AI analyzing video content of different files along with an audio analyzer).

VanTheBrand 4y ago

One of the things that makes this a big deal is an iPad is often the most color accurate highest quality display anyone has.

Ancapistani 4y ago
Yep. I do almost of my photo editing on my iPad for this reason. For video I've been using my iPad as an external display and color grading in Resolve.
Gigachad 4y ago
You don't realize how extremely off consumer monitors are until you compare it to a calibrated one like the ipad.
- exodust 4y ago
  > extremely off consumer monitors are... I'm not sure what consumer monitors you're using, but they are certainly not "extremely off". You're making it sound like shades of green on the iPad turn into muddy brown on a monitor, which isn't true.
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    I had the ipad connected to a $700 LG monitor and the LG one was much much redder than the ipad, the difference was significant. It's fine for programming, gaming, and content consumption, but if you were doing any visual production work, this is unusable.
    - exodust 4y ago
      So calibrate your LG. (something you can't do on your iPad). > "but if you were doing any visual production work..." ...then you would press the menu button on your monitor and adjust so that your monitor is usable. The default settings on your LG do not represent every monitor out there. A lot of monitors have good out-of-box colour. > $700 LG The monitor market is competitive. Watch reviews and choose a monitor with good out-of-box colour if you can't be bothered calibrating. Something like the ASUS Proart, or numerous others.

gespadas 4y ago

This is awesome!!! It's great to have this option as an alternative on-the-go.

retskrad 4y ago

Apple massively increased the price of the the entire iPad line-up in Europe. It's going to be interesting to see what impact it will have on Apple's earnings. Will Apple's goodwill make people accept the new prices or will Apple's brand take a hit for increasing the price in times where people are financially vulnerable?

simonh 4y ago
Given that keeping prices the same would weigh down their earnings as well, since they're reported in dollars, the financial impact of this is not a simple thing to calculate.
- haunter 4y ago
  Oh wow company makes $1,7b profit instead of $1,9b. The end is near. Capitalism is really a cancer when the only thing matters is growth growth and growth. The Facebook movie was really spot on with the "A million dollars isn't cool. You know what's cool? A billion" line
  - hemantv 4y ago
    Hate capitalism as much as you want. But it's the only system that consistently uplift people and improve standard of living over time. It's the best system among all the bad systems out there.
    - wahnfrieden 4y ago
      sounds like hardened political rhetoric to me and classical capitalist realism - no place for that here
      - dijonman2 4y ago
        How does your comment differ from your own judgement?

Jamesmoorez 4y ago

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clean_send 4y ago

This is incredible on so many fronts. 5-10 years ago, I would choose my computer based on it's potential to edit video. A decade ago, most laptops couldn't handle the load of uncompressed video. 5 years ago, having iMovie on your Ipad allowed us to make sub <5 minute videos of low-res/processed files. Now we have an intersection of 1. an Ipad is powerful enough to handle this type of data processing and 2. BMD has found ways of dealing with the huge file sizes and rendering / editing in real time. Unreal. I imagined this would come some day but not today.

simonh 4y ago
We're still getting used to how much things have changed in the M1+ era.
bitL 4y ago
How is iPad going to handle RAW 8k video? Its highest storage is small, good only for a scratch disk at best or for very short movies.
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  I don't think it is the tool for the job
  - dylan604 4y ago
    I don't think it is the tool for that job, but for footage acquired on the iPad it will do just fine thank you very much. The iPads are being used for shooting way more frequently than I'd have given credit, until I realize that if an iPad was available back when I was unable to afford other equipment, I'd have used the hell out of it too. We shot the shit out of VHS=>SVHS=>Hi8=>Digi8=>DV/MiniDV as if it were film. Now, there's image stabilization, light as a feather, prices are a fraction of prior so for the price of one thing you can get like 3 or 4, and then consider them crash cams, etc. Then when you get done shooting, there's 0 time wasted on transfering to your editor as your friggin camera is the editor and the color corrector. I mean, why the hell would you not do this if you're a broke ass college film student. hell, even elementary school kids could be doing this. it's mind boggling what kids have at their finger tips now.

andrewmunsell 4y ago

I've used LumaFusion for years since it's the only real editor option on the iPad. They took forever to launch vector scopes and they still don't have keyframe easing or basic speed ramping, so it's good to see some competition here. The syncing feature may just push me to use Resolve full time, since it'd let me do basic cutting and even color grading on the iPad and any intensive work on my computer seamlessly.

mortenjorck 4y ago

This is "only" two of the seven modules included in the desktop version, but even just one would be a breakthrough on the iPad. The full DaVinci Resolve is nuts: it covers a complete, Hollywood-level workflow of DAM, editing, grading, sound, and VFX (with probably the most generous freemium model in existence, by a good margin). The iPad version covers one of the two edit workflows (the one more tailored to broadcast than film) and color grading, which will cover quite a few use cases without anything else. I can especially see this being used by serious YouTubers and independent content creators. I wonder if the asset management module is planned, as that would seem to be the next-most broadly useful module.

DoctorOW 4y ago
Even when Resolve was only ever those two modules (and back then the edit was pretty basic) I thought it was incredibly good. DaVinci's dedication to publishing free (of charge) software is one of the few things keeping Adobe in check.
- Melatonic 4y ago
  My problem was I always found it to have weird holdovers in terms of UI from hardware integration days of colour correctors. Hopefully that is gone now. But for example you used to not be able to just drag your full screen viewing window to a second monitor - they forced you to get their little hardware PCIe card. Given that most Nvidia cards will do 10 bit colour now with the studio drivers I hope they have rethought this.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    They prefer for the GPU cores to be doing math rather than displaying image. That's why you can get away with the GPU not being in a full lane width slot. The little PCIe did more than just send out an HDMI signal back then as well, as most of it went to an SDI or even older analog component BNCs. No GPU I've ever seen has had those connectors.
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CharlesW 4y ago

This is a good reference for anyone complaining that the new iPad is "too powerful", which happened a bunch in the recent announcement threads. Yes, not everyone's going to be editing 8K video on their iPad, but everything that makes that possible makes lots of other current and future advanced use cases possible. For example, the lidar sensor foreshadows that the iPad has an important part in Apple's mixed reality plans.

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SSLy 4y ago
> For example, the lidar sensor foreshadows that the iPad has an important part in Apple's mixed reality plans. The LIDAR is there to serve as a playground for the app developers, including in-house. A glorified dev board. I doubt iPads themselves will be a part of Apple's XR plans.
- CharlesW 4y ago
  > I doubt iPads themselves will be a part of Apple's XR plans. iPads are serving as a proxy for the Reality headset today. Meaning, you can go to https://www.apple.com/augmented-reality/ https://www.apple.com/augmented-reality/ right now to get a preview of how Apple will be selling Reality to customers. We don't yet know how Reality will work with iPads/iPhones, but one can read the tea leaves by thinking about how Apple will leverage technologies like Handoff, Continuity, AirPlay, etc. It's not crazy to think that Reality will leverage nearby devices for storage, connectivity, and even compute and GPU. In other words: Rather than wondering if iPads will be part of Apple's MR plans, I recommend thinking about how iPads will increasingly be part of Apple's MR plans.

lvl102 4y ago

This is nice but any serious video editor would use a Macbook instead no? Why bother with this version?

BudaDude 4y ago
The biggest reason would be the portability. If you are on a plane, using an iPad is often much easier than a full laptop.
- dopa42365 4y ago
  List of people color grading hollywood movies on their ipad during plane flights:
  - ancientworldnow 4y ago
    Steven Soderbergh has edited full feature films on a flight and I wouldn't be surprised to see him attempt to color grade them as well. Of course he's better as Steven than Peter Andrews so who knows what quality his color pseudonym would be.
  - BudaDude 4y ago
    Not Hollywood, but professional Youtuber's and journalists edit their videos on planes. MKBHD comes to mind.
- Cadwhisker 4y ago
  It's also the portability with a colour-accurate HDR screen. That's a pretty huge step-up from what most laptops can do.
twobitshifter 4y ago
Apple Pencil is iPad only
- NonNefarious 4y ago

lostgame 4y ago

Embarrassing that this exists before Apple gets its own Final Cut Pro on their so-called 'iPad Pro'. Never understood how they could have the audacity to call it an iPad 'Pro' when none of Apple's actual by-name 'Pro' software was - or, to this date - 5 years later - still is. No 'Logic Pro', no 'Final Cut Pro'...still no Xcode, either. Other than illustrators/designers, can someone please explain to me what 'Pro' can use an iPad 'Pro' for any serious professional-grade tasks? The mind boggles. Similar to a game console, I purchase hardware for the software it can run. I don't care if it's as powerful as my equivalent MacBook Pro; because there's nothing I can use to take advantage of that power.

whyenot 4y ago
DaVinci hasn't been released yet. This is an announcement that it will be released for iPad in Q4. FCP could still be released first.
- rcarr 4y ago
  Come on, this is disingenuous. If it was going to be released first it would have been the software shown off in the promo videos. They wouldn’t show a competitor if they were about to drop one of their flagship pieces of software on iPad for the first time, they’d be making a song and dance of it.

eole666 4y ago

This is nice, but it's not that incredible : Windows tablets running Resolve smoothly exists since many years (Surface Pro), and they do run the full davinci resolve suite on top of an actual desktop OS. On the other hand, M1/M2 ipads pro should be way more powerfull than the Surfaces if you need to do some heavy editing/color grading. And it seems they optimized this version for the pencil use.

teeray 4y ago

So excited for this. I really love editing photos on my iPad in Lightroom... I find it relaxing. Much more so than if I had to grab my laptop to do it. Looking forward to doing the same with my drone footage now.

lencastre 4y ago

Asking for a friend who is amateur, how does this compare to LumaTouch’s LumaFusion?

Gordonjcp 4y ago
It's a full-blown editing, VFX, and grading package, used for some really heavy-duty productions. If you don't want to edit larger than 4k resolution, the free-as-in-beer version does nearly everything else that the paid-for one does. The paid-for one is about 200 quid. The training materials (I've linked to them below) are second to none, not just for video editing tools but for any software I've ever seen. Have a look at them - there are some training videos and several very comprehensive books backed up with high-quality sample material. On a PC, you'll need a decent graphics card but I managed with a Core i5-4570, 16GB of RAM, and a GT1030 - I am a patient man, though, and don't mind kicking off a render and going for a cup of tea with a good book. Dig through the training material: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve/training https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve/...

rcarr 4y ago

Does anyone know what stabiliser they used in the promos when they were showing off the iPad Pro filming the car and then editing the footage in DaVinci?

jokoon 4y ago

I tried it something like 1 or 2 years ago, it crashed. I don't if there are CPU or GPU requirements.

mkr-hn 4y ago
How could you try something that didn't exist?
- POPOSYS 4y ago
  As a pro developer you should have known that he is talking about the famous Error 666: Software does not exist yet - exiting This crash was annoying so many people - finally BMD did something about it!
- jokoon 4y ago
  not talking about the ipad version, obviously
  - mkr-hn 4y ago
    Then what's the relevance of the comment about stability? This thread is about the coming iPad version. It's reasonable to assume you're talking about it (or confused and in the wrong place), given that's the topic of the submission. Desktop video editors are notoriously unstable (assuming since you didn't specify). It's probably not the same codebase, and it'll be operating under clearer constraints the developers can target for maximum stability and performance.
    - jokoon 4y ago
      yeah okay just saying the desktop version crashed after launching it hope it's fixed now in the mean time, I can use avidemux and other things to do simple video editing I'm very sorry if my irrelevant comment upset you

Forgeties79 4y ago

Man BMD has been absolutely crushing it the last 2 years or so. The number of people I see jumping to resolve as their main NLE is staggering. They were often mocked when they jumped into the cinema camera game in the early 2010s and now their imaging hardware is a production mainstay at all levels of the industry. I am very curious to see how their foray into iOS goes here. Could be huge. Frankly I just feel like I lack the imagination for what this opens up. Can’t wait to experiment!

oDot 4y ago

In a fairly related note -- if there's an available editor here that knows anime style and pacing, please let me know where I can see your stuff

z9znz 4y ago

Has anyone here used an iPad as their primary editing tool? Unless one were really constrained by weight or items, I don't know why someone wouldn't just edit on their Macbook. I think it's great that you can do this on an iPad; I just wonder how useful it really is. The Macbook Air is pretty small and lightweight already. It would be interesting to see a side by side editing session comparison with two people, one using an iPad, and the other using a laptop.

teamspirit 4y ago

Now if we can just get Logic (with VSTs). I'd love to leave my MBP at home when I'm on the road and still be able to write music.

seanw444 4y ago
Full-fledged mobile DAW is one thing I'm surprised doesn't really exist. That would make so much money. I know I'm not the only person that gets sudden ideas that need to be expressed audibly before the inspiration is gone, on the go.
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- teamspirit 4y ago
  Far from full fledged but I just discovered that Cubase has something for iOS and Android. I got really excited until I remembered how hindered I'd be without VSTs, particularly since I mostly score orchestral. I do believe the day is fast approaching though I was hoping it was going to be with this iteration.
thewebcount 4y ago
I use GarageBand with AudioUnits on my iPad all the time. It works pretty well, though they do make the AudioUnits hard to find. Obviously it doesn't have all the features of Logic (which I also use on my Mac Pro), but it's surprisingly good. And, you can take stuff from GB into Logic later if you want to punch it up or do something that's not possible on the iPad.
- teamspirit 4y ago
  You know, I just discovered GarageBand on the iPad myself and I have to say I was impressed. Too bad my 4th gen air has lighting as a connector, otherwise I'd pop in a USB c hub and attach my little NI m32 and be rocking! With that, it would be enough to at least draft ideas on the road.

darkteflon 4y ago

To all the experienced DVR users: does it have good native media management capabilities? I’m an FCPX user and always felt that was a big black mark against FCPX. For instance, it seems designed to manage your media on a per-project basis, and can’t easily be shoehorned into having a single large (organised) library accessible from many loosely-coupled projects. Disconnected original media drives don’t have graceful failure states - even when using a local proxy workflow. Tagging, sorting and displaying large media libraries always feels quite cumbersome. That kind of thing. Keen to hear whether DVR is more sensible - I’m quite keen to give it a go if so.

taylorbuley 4y ago

Another easy way to use Resolve for free. Anyone here can and should use Resolve for quick and dirty color correction. Like having a good mic, it really makes your video stand out in terms of quality.

FractalHQ 4y ago

Too bad iPad OS is a joke. A gutted version of a real software program running on an M1 should not be exciting news in 2021.

scottlamb 4y ago

> Supported file formats include H.264, H.265, Apple ProRes and Blackmagic RAW, with clips able to be imported from the iPad Pro internal storage and Photos library, or externally connected iCloud and USB-C media disks. Since it runs on an iPad, I assume it uses the system libraries to support H.264 files properly, but I can't pass up the chance to grumble about the HyperDeck Studio Mini. It says it supports H.264 files, then you find this deep in the manual: “HyperDeck Studio Mini will play back H.264 files recorded on a HyperDeck Studio Mini, but not H.264 files recorded on other video equipment.” —https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/HyperDeckManual.pdf https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/UserManuals/HyperDeck... Also, it pretends the files it doesn't like don't exist at all, rather than telling you.

Cadwhisker 4y ago
H.264 playback for generally rendered content was improved in release 8.1.1, according to the release notes.

dharma1 4y ago

Grant (the founder of Blackmagic) is incredible, one of my favourite CEOs. I’ve had Blackmagic pocket cameras since the first one and they are something else. Resolve (non-studio version) being free on desktop is nuts - it’s one of the best pieces of software I use. The value this company gives away to creators for free (or at very affordable price point) is unparalleled

coolandsmartrr 4y ago
Blackmagic offers a great lineup for prosumers entering into professional gear territory. Their Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera is an indie production darling, picked by many upcoming film directors and cinematographers. I use one myself, and I appreciate how its raw format output provides flexibility to adjust colors. I edit them in Davinci Resolve, one of the best software for color grading also made by Blackmagic.

WrtCdEvrydy 4y ago

Holy shit, this is free and will be available on iOS devices!

robbrown451 4y ago

I've tried to use Resolve (on other platforms). I am quite competent in, for instance, ScreenFlow for the mac. Works great for regular video editing (not just screen capture stuff), and while there is a lot to learn, it is quite intuitive. Unfortunatley my mac is old and I need windows for work, so I thought Resolve would come to the rescue. But I just can't wrap my head around the Resolve workflow. To do really basic stuff it seems to have a huge learning curve. I have no doubt it is powerful, but there is a point where I just can't justify the time to learn it. (I use a lot of video in my job as well as hobby/family stuff, but I'm not a professional video editor per se) Is this anyone else's experience? Is it really only targeted at professionals? I was very excited to see that they are giving away such a sophisticated product for free, but man....

Cadwhisker 4y ago
I'm an amateur, using Resolve for holiday/family clips. It took one or two YouTube tutorials for me to get it, but I've got a smooth workflow now. * Create project *and set the frame rate before importing video clips, because you can't change it once you've got clips*. * Choose "DaVinci YRGB Color Managed" under project settings, Color Managment - this is more flexible for coloring later on. * Add your media, then choose any clip(s), right-click and and create timeline from it. * Use NLE functions to make the edit. * Color grade (and stabilise clips). - Turn on Scopes -> Waveform (UI bottom right) and set the white balance by dragging the 'dot' in the middle of the Offset wheel. You want the red/green/blue waves to overlap where there's a region of grey/white in your video frame. This can be tough if you have no grey/white, but you can copy color settings from other clips. - Adjust other settings as necessary. * Deliver/export.

exodust 4y ago

The best way to use DaVinci Resolve is on a desktop PC with ultrawide monitor and one of the controllers such as the DaVinci Resolve Speed Editor. I own that controller and it's great. I really wanted to like editing videos on the couch on my iPad Pro (2018 model) 12inch with pencil in LumaFusion, and it's cool at first because "editing on an iPad".. then screen real estate reality set in. For me anyway. Video editing tasks and projects vary greatly in scope, and some projects would be great on the iPad. Maybe I'll try again later, but after getting an ultrawide monitor I discovered that yes, I really do want a timeline that wide.

bigwheeler 4y ago

I love the idea of editing on an iPad if it means not always having to carry a laptop around, especially on set or while out shooting. But there’s a pretty significant roadblock preventing that workflow- there’s still no way to get your footage off of your camera and on to an external drive (to plug into the iPad) without a laptop.

hatware 4y ago
Most cameras can plug directly into the iPad.
- orloffm 4y ago
  So how do you move files from cameras to external USB-C drives? By having a dock/splitter that allows to connect both at the same time?
  - jrickert 4y ago
    Yeah, a USB-C hub should do it. Also some cameras record directly to USB-C drives.

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Bakary 4y ago

I'm curious about professionals who do actually productive work on a tablet or even phone format. The touch screen or color calibration can be helpful, but you could probably use the money spent on an iPad in getting those extra features for your desktop or laptop. If you are a remote worker on the move, having a mobile setup would be well worth it and perhaps your only option, but the experience of getting any work done seems so woeful.

ancientworldnow 4y ago
A lot of film work is done on set and mobility is important. Currently high end productions who'll use DIT (digital imaging technician) carts which quickly become unwieldly. While this one replace all those setups, in certain scenarios where you need to be mobile and fast (branded docs, smaller crews, etc) a smaller highly mobile setup becomes ideal.

TradingPlaces 4y ago

This is going to be wildly popular on film/TV sets

imagetic 4y ago

It's awesome to see such a widespread response from outside the video production industry. Blackmagic has been charging ahead with Resolve development and managed to carve a niche of the industry most people thought was impossible. I'm excited about the possibilities this could bring. For now I mostly just have a lot of questions. This sounds like it will be for smaller production work, like vlog/podcast/promo shorts where the iPads limited storage will be capable. The cut page is a nifty idea, it makes tasks like interview string-outs and cut-downs a fairly straightforward process. I don't know a single editor who uses it though. Color wise, assuming I can sync my stills and take the iPad on the go, would be useful in some scenarios. But that's an expensive commodity. Generally when we go to color, it requires far more storage than an iPad is capable of. I want to love it. But right now, I'm far more skeptical of its real world usefulness. I mostly just have a lot of workflow questions. I was personally hoping for something that was more of an extension of the desktop app than a standalone product. One thing Blackmagic needs to do is bring the advanced Resolve features into the support realm and workflow documentation. The collaboration server and the cloud sync are mystery products. There's almost no formal support or documentation on how they work, how to solve a sync issue or overwrite when they happen, or to get actual feedback on issues from real engineers.

bofh23 4y ago

Web publishing aside: Why do sites like this totally neglect the page title and meta attributes for sharing in social media such as Open Graph? At bare minimum, why not include <title>Blackmagic Design Announces DaVinci Resolve for iPad</title> in the <head> element? I checked the page with Facebook’s Sharing Debugger and found: og:title: Media | Blackmagic Design og:description: All items on this website are copyright […]