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Clearly some departments of Sony have engineers naming things. No marketing team would put out a product names the "Sony WH-1000XM4" not to be confused with the

Clearly some departments of Sony have engineers naming things. No marketing team would put out a product names the "Sony WH-1000XM4" not to be confused with the "Sony WF-1000XM4". Overall Nvidia generally has a very good naming system. They are easy to understand if you look at them for more than a minute. Nvidia is 4090? 40 = Generation. 90 = Model. Higher model # is better. They've stuck with the general concept for the better part of 20 years. Intel's naming is decent. Their cutsey names like Sandy Bridge, meh. No one can never remember those. But the Core numbering system is solid. i3 is lowest. i9 is highest. The processor numbers after that can be a little hard and do require a bit of a decorder matrix to understand. But as long as it's a system, with rules, that they follow, and can be explained fairly easily - I'm ok with it. Heck they have a page that gives you the magic decoder ring: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/processor-numbers.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/processor...

izacus 4y ago
I'll be honestly concerned for Sony if they stop naming their products from random bash line noise. It's now as much part of their brand as all other things are.
mey 4y ago
Except Nvidia uses the same branding for it's mobile and desktop chips, and in the past have rebadged different architectures under multiple gen numbers. (GT 510/520/605/610/710 all the GF119 chip) It's all pretty bad.
arprocter 4y ago
Acer's monitor naming looks like a cat walked on someone's keyboard - KVbmiipruzx
- muro 4y ago
  The best named monitor recently is probably the Waysus 22.
- userbinator 4y ago
  KV looks like a Sony prefix for CRT TVs (the "k" presumably stands for "kinescope", which is the name for a CRT in a number of non-English languages.) But I think the long and mysterious-at-first-glance model numbering is usually a good thing since it encodes a lot of useful information.
eastbound 4y ago
Sony’s naming problem is not because of engineers; It’s clearly the marketing team, and the goal is most certainly to make this incomparable, across continents, across years, or between the one that was given to the reviewers/journals/comparators and the ones that the customers can actually purchase. Sony’s problem is that they try to sell bad products for the price of expensive ones, and the best way to do that is to have incomprehensible names.
- ShroudedNight 4y ago
  The MDR-7506 has just as obscure a name as anything they're selling; it's not clear to me that the naming is so much a strategy as a lack thereof...
- Someone 4y ago
  I think the goal is more so that big chains can sell model numbers that nobody else sells, making it risk-free for them to promise “we’ll match any cheaper price”.
gigaflop 4y ago
For what it's worth, I bought a high end TV recently, the Sony Bravia A90J. I've left out some of the full product name, but this info is all you need if you care to look up that TV. When I was looking in physical stores, at physical devices, I noticed that there were important differences between the [A-Z][8-9]0[A-Z]s, when I would research the model numbers online. 80 vs 90 indicated jumps in overall quality, depending on the other letters in the model name, which usually meant that the product was created specifically for the store (like Best Buy vs Costco vs buying direct), and would have other minor differences from the 'true' version. A regular person would have probably just looked at the TVs in-store and decided based on whatever looked best, but I happened to have some specific features I wanted, and the weird-ass model names helped.
- Melatonic 4y ago
  The A90J is the top model right? Was looking at those myself recently. Amazon warehouse occasionally has a cheap deal on one but I am always scared those probably have dead pixels. I really wanted a Panasonic Plasma but it looks like the sole importer may not be getting them anymore or might be getting less. But from what I understand the A90J and the top end Panasonics are the best in that they have a much better heatsink
  - gigaflop 4y ago
    A90J is, by the research I did and the word of the person who sold it to me (a family friend, has owned a TV business for 25 years, and gave me his at-cost price), the best. I absolutely love it. And yes, the panel + heatsink are top notch. Some other models/brands use the same panel, but lack the stronger heatsinks, and aren't able to utilize it as best as possible. It runs Android TV, which may or may not be a dealbreaker for you, but I enjoy it enough. I just wanted to be free of a vendor-specific TV os, in order to give myself more flexibility when I try to set up a pi-hole in the future. There's also a hardware switch to disable the TV's microphone. Also, the sound comes out from the panel itself, and is (to me) great. It calibrates itself using the microphone within the remote, by having you hold it a certain way when performing setup. Finally, there's an incredibly posh and satisfying 'click' noise when you turn it off. I don't know why, but this makes me like the TV more.
Macha 4y ago
I think you need to at least also consider the generation along with the bucket for Intel CPUs. For most users a 12th gen i3 is better than a ninth gen anything, yet plenty of retailers kept old laptop skus around long enough you would see both side by side at a retailer
codedokode 4y ago
No I cannot agree that Nvidia naming system is any good. First, one could think that larger number means larger performance but this is not always the case. Second, one might think that "Ti" or "super" GPU is better than a regular one in every aspect but this is not the case also. The same is about Intel. The best naming scheme is where numbers reflect performance or core count or cache size so that they can easily be compared by a consumer.

izacus 4y ago

I'll be honestly concerned for Sony if they stop naming their products from random bash line noise. It's now as much part of their brand as all other things are.

mey 4y ago

Except Nvidia uses the same branding for it's mobile and desktop chips, and in the past have rebadged different architectures under multiple gen numbers. (GT 510/520/605/610/710 all the GF119 chip) It's all pretty bad.

arprocter 4y ago

Acer's monitor naming looks like a cat walked on someone's keyboard - KVbmiipruzx

muro 4y ago
The best named monitor recently is probably the Waysus 22.
userbinator 4y ago
KV looks like a Sony prefix for CRT TVs (the "k" presumably stands for "kinescope", which is the name for a CRT in a number of non-English languages.) But I think the long and mysterious-at-first-glance model numbering is usually a good thing since it encodes a lot of useful information.

eastbound 4y ago

Sony’s naming problem is not because of engineers; It’s clearly the marketing team, and the goal is most certainly to make this incomparable, across continents, across years, or between the one that was given to the reviewers/journals/comparators and the ones that the customers can actually purchase. Sony’s problem is that they try to sell bad products for the price of expensive ones, and the best way to do that is to have incomprehensible names.

ShroudedNight 4y ago
The MDR-7506 has just as obscure a name as anything they're selling; it's not clear to me that the naming is so much a strategy as a lack thereof...
Someone 4y ago
I think the goal is more so that big chains can sell model numbers that nobody else sells, making it risk-free for them to promise “we’ll match any cheaper price”.

gigaflop 4y ago

For what it's worth, I bought a high end TV recently, the Sony Bravia A90J. I've left out some of the full product name, but this info is all you need if you care to look up that TV. When I was looking in physical stores, at physical devices, I noticed that there were important differences between the [A-Z][8-9]0[A-Z]s, when I would research the model numbers online. 80 vs 90 indicated jumps in overall quality, depending on the other letters in the model name, which usually meant that the product was created specifically for the store (like Best Buy vs Costco vs buying direct), and would have other minor differences from the 'true' version. A regular person would have probably just looked at the TVs in-store and decided based on whatever looked best, but I happened to have some specific features I wanted, and the weird-ass model names helped.

Melatonic 4y ago
The A90J is the top model right? Was looking at those myself recently. Amazon warehouse occasionally has a cheap deal on one but I am always scared those probably have dead pixels. I really wanted a Panasonic Plasma but it looks like the sole importer may not be getting them anymore or might be getting less. But from what I understand the A90J and the top end Panasonics are the best in that they have a much better heatsink
- gigaflop 4y ago
  A90J is, by the research I did and the word of the person who sold it to me (a family friend, has owned a TV business for 25 years, and gave me his at-cost price), the best. I absolutely love it. And yes, the panel + heatsink are top notch. Some other models/brands use the same panel, but lack the stronger heatsinks, and aren't able to utilize it as best as possible. It runs Android TV, which may or may not be a dealbreaker for you, but I enjoy it enough. I just wanted to be free of a vendor-specific TV os, in order to give myself more flexibility when I try to set up a pi-hole in the future. There's also a hardware switch to disable the TV's microphone. Also, the sound comes out from the panel itself, and is (to me) great. It calibrates itself using the microphone within the remote, by having you hold it a certain way when performing setup. Finally, there's an incredibly posh and satisfying 'click' noise when you turn it off. I don't know why, but this makes me like the TV more.

Macha 4y ago

I think you need to at least also consider the generation along with the bucket for Intel CPUs. For most users a 12th gen i3 is better than a ninth gen anything, yet plenty of retailers kept old laptop skus around long enough you would see both side by side at a retailer

codedokode 4y ago

No I cannot agree that Nvidia naming system is any good. First, one could think that larger number means larger performance but this is not always the case. Second, one might think that "Ti" or "super" GPU is better than a regular one in every aspect but this is not the case also. The same is about Intel. The best naming scheme is where numbers reflect performance or core count or cache size so that they can easily be compared by a consumer.