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My wife took three months to recover. I have a friend roughly my age who still hasn't (about four months in). My dad is dead. And people wonder why I don't blo
by classichasclass 4y ago
My wife took three months to recover. I have a friend roughly my age who still hasn't (about four months in). My dad is dead.
And people wonder why I don't blow it off. I've yet to get it, and I don't want to.
- timr 4y agoI've had it and everyone I know has had it (now in the dozens), including a number of elderly people. Everyone is fine. I recovered in a week, and out of literally dozens of people, I've not met anyone who took longer than that. I'm sorry about your dad, but let's not exaggerate based on personal anecdotes. The stories that get upvoted are the ones that scare people.
- classichasclass 4y agoDon't minimize based on it either.
- timr 4y agoProviding balance is not "minimizing". Sharing an emotional/fearful anecdote does not lay claim to truth.
- jonas21 4y agoYou're doing exactly the same thing classichasclass is, but in the opposite direction - and "minimize" seems like a fair antonym of "exaggerate".
- timr 4y agoWell, yes. Exactly. That's my point. I'm sharing the boring story that doesn't get headlines.
- jonas21 4y agoI don't object to you sharing your boring story. I do find it hypocritical to say, "let's not exaggerate based on personal anecdotes" while doing the same thing.
- timr 4y agoPerson 1: "the world is coming to an end!" Person 2: "well, hold on now. Things still seem okay to me." Person 1: "why are you minimizing it?!?" I'm not saying that OP isn't telling the truth. I'm not even saying that their story is less representative than mine. I'm just saying that my boring story also exists, and we shouldn't fixate on (i.e. "emphasize") the emotional stories because they're emotional.
- throwaway_au_1 4y agoThat's a very disingenuous example that bears little relation to classichasclass's original post. They said they know people who have suffered significantly because of COVID and for that reason they are still cautious. You immediately responded "let's not exaggerate". How have they exaggerated? Then you say "It still doesn't give them carte blanche to exaggerate or emphasize scary anecdotes at the expense of boring ones." In what way is the post made by classichasclass at the expense of other anecdotes? It makes absolutely no sense.
- taolegal 4y agoIf someone has a relative die from a shark attack and doesn't swim in the ocean anymore, that's their choice, it's even understandable. But as I see it, relative to nowadays, the analogy would be that people are arguing that no one should ever allowed to swim in the ocean or should be wearing a life vest 24/7, even on ground.
- timr 4y agoI have no idea if OP is exaggerating, or even telling the truth. The point is that anecdotes are worthless. Giving anecdotes any level of serious consideration is inherently exaggeration of a niche position. This subthread is now filled with comments taking an anecdote from a complete stranger -- someone they don't know and whose story they cannot possibly verify -- and attempting to shame/attack/villainize anyone who presents an alternative to that narrative. One anecdote is good, but the other one is bad. Why? It's just another form of argumentum ad misericordiam (appeal to pity): if you discount the emotional narrative, you must be a heartless person, unworthy of serious consideration.
- John23832 4y agoThe ones that upvoted are the ones that people relate to? i.e. they've had the same experience. People aren't just upvoting covid porn.
- timr 4y agoA lot of people are, in fact, amplifying things that scare them (or things that trigger emotions). All I've done here is share an equivalent, balancing anecdote.
- darkteflon 4y agoThe dude just told us he’s lost his dad, and your second paragraph was “let’s not exaggerate”. Your original comment - sharing your own anecdote - would’ve been better without the second paragraph.
- timr 4y agoYes. The fact that someone's father died is tragic. It still doesn't give them carte blanche to exaggerate or emphasize scary anecdotes at the expense of boring ones.
- mritun 4y agoAlmost nobody wears seatbelts in India and 99.9999% of them do not get into accidents or die when they do. What’s exactly your point unless you’re trying to say that your anecdote is better than theirs? Have you considered that it may just be your survivor bias talking and just maybe you are just plan lucky? I’ve lost family members covid! Have friends who did too.
- timr 4y agoMy anecdote is not better than another anecdote. That's the point. Anecdotes are worthless, but you're here arguing about mine, because mine is boring, and you don't think that's appropriate. That's a problem. For whatever it's worth, though...the fact that dozens of people I know have had it and are fine isn't "luck".
- ekianjo 4y agoWhat kind of anecdotes do you expect in a thread about an article related to long term effects of Covid? Its like expecting 4chan comments on HN.
- Sapere_Aude 4y ago
- bsder 4y ago> Everyone is fine. I recovered in a week, and out of literally dozens of people, I've not met anyone who took longer than that. Calling bullshit. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01589-z https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01589-z Anybody who lost their sense of taste or smell took months to recover that. Loss of smell or taste is almost 50% for Covid prior to Omicron. Even with Omicron, it's about 20%.
- alxhill 4y ago> Anybody who lost their sense of taste or smell took months to recover that. Loss of smell or taste is almost 50% for Covid prior to Omicron. Even with Omicron, it's about 20%. And yet, in more anecdata, everyone I know who had taste issues recovered them in much less than a month with no long-term impacts.
- artificialLimbs 4y agoMy mom got her taste back in about 2 weeks.
- simianparrot 4y agoI lost my sense of smell and taste which was really upsetting, but got it back in about 11 days. No lingering issues either.
- fullmoon 4y agoI’ve recovered my sense of sense and test within a week after the first onset of symptoms.
- yucky 4y agoJust throwing on the pile of anecdotes, almost everybody I know has had Covid at least once and I can only think of a couple that lost any sense of taste or smell beyond the few days they were sick. I do know one guy though who says he still can't smell many things. Not sure if it's from Covid or not since he was vaccinated. Then again, now we know Pfizer never bothered to test if the vaccine actually stopped transmission, so who knows. [1] I guess the point is anecdotes are worthless. [1] https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/pfizer-did-not-know-whether-covid-vaccine-stopped-transmission-before-rollout-executive-admits/news-story/f307f28f794e173ac017a62784fec414 https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/pfizer...
- phpthrowaway99 4y agoWhat's crazier is that if you run in circles of the unvaccinated, you almost think it's all in everyone's head. I mentioned earlier I work in a company where almost no one got vaccinated. We're somewhat customer facing, but did wear masks when the state required it. Almost no one has gotten covid of any of my friends/coworkers. I've been casual as can be, never touching a hand wash squirter, going out in SF outdoor and indoor dining if they didn't check, and haven't been sick since 2018 or early 2019. Before that, I was actually one of those sickness manchilds that honestly twice a year would almost be unable to function for an entire week. I'm about starting to think people can will themselves into not getting sick, and maybe will themselves into it. My friends don't believe in it, and I and others haven't sniffled in 2 years. Downvote away for personal experiences Im sure.
- amanaplanacanal 4y agoIt varies. Here, it seems everybody knows somebody that died from it in the early days. Omicron seems to be a lot easier on people than the earlier versions were.
- phpthrowaway99 4y agoCould be. Until omicron I basically never heard of anyone in my decently large social circle even getting covid. I used to joke that if you offered me $100k to go get covid, I wouldn't really know how to go get it.
- HWR_14 4y ago> Before that, I was actually one of those sickness manchilds that honestly twice a year would almost be unable to function for an entire week. That makes sense. All the COVID prevention steps everyone took would prevent other diseases as well. > I've been casual as can be, never touching a hand wash squirter, going out in SF outdoor and indoor dining if they didn't check, I don't know why people are proud about not washing their hands. That was gross pre-Covid too. > Almost no one has gotten covid of any of my friends/coworkers Alternatively, you and your friends are fairly young, caught it, were somewhat asymptomatic, and spread it to everyone you met. After all, you don't seem to have tested at all.
- adrr 4y agoArticle references a study saying 50% of people haven't fully recovered after a few months. Whats the exaggeration? Still hundreds of people dying a day from covid in the US which is 4X higher than the flu for comparison.
- timr 4y agoWell, for starters...perhaps we should discuss the results and limitations of the study, and not just exchange anecdotes.