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I have no inside info but I think this is because he is getting wrecked by discovery. More and more about him is being leaked from that and he doesn't like it.

I have no inside info but I think this is because he is getting wrecked by discovery. More and more about him is being leaked from that and he doesn't like it. He'd rather lose billions.

metadat 4y ago
The Musk brand damage could exceed a "paltry" $44B when his dirty laundry becomes public, especially given he'll only need to put in less than 50% of his own money. Regarding the information leakage, does this signal that Mr. Musk treats people poorly in his private dealings? It's all damage mitigation at this point.
DeRock 4y ago
> He'd rather lose billions. Its an AND not an OR. He either proceeds with purchase and loses billions, or proceeds with discovery/trial, has personal info exposed, and is then forced to proceed with purchase and lose billions. He's tried to stall proceedings so far, but has reached a legal dead end.
jamiek88 4y ago
I’m scared what scorched earth musk in charge of a zeitgeist weapon like twitter will do.
- deleted 4y ago
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- anzic 4y ago
  - dane-pgp 4y ago
    Yeah, it sounds like a TTRPG doesn't it? "Does applying scorched earth musk to my zeitgeist weapon always succeed, or do I need to roll another D20 for that?"
- adventured 4y ago
  We can build another if it comes down to it. See: Facebook's declining usage, and the rise of TikTok. Social networks are all quite replaceable, there are no exceptions. Twitter won in its micro blogging space (there were numerous competitors for a brief time, way back), however it has never been a stellar product. It can and will be replaced if Musk turns it into a disaster.
  - warkdarrior 4y ago
    I think the jury is still out on whether TikTok is an improvement over Facebook.
    - pwdisswordfish9 4y ago
      Who said anything about improvement?
- tenpies 4y ago
  Well the TSLAQ community is certainly assuming they're gone. It will be funny of the Blue Checkmarks have to form their own social media platform - or in incredibly irony - end up in one of the "right wing" platforms as a refuge of free speech.
- WheatMillington 4y ago
  There are two cohorts who dramatically overestimate Twitter's influence and importance - tech people and journalists. Twitter really is not very important. At my non tech workplace of 800 people, I'd be surprised if 50 were active on Twitter.
  - dlkf 4y ago
    “Most people aren’t on twitter” is not a valid argument against twitter’s influence. Compare with “most people aren’t CEOs”, “most people aren’t politicians,” etc. Some people have a lot more influence than others, and the influential people are disproportionately on twitter.
  - 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 4y ago
    > tech people and journalists Also politicians. That is the whole problem though, isn't it? A few hundred random people on Twitter are often more than enough to manufacture a wave of articles across multiple news websites and newspapers. Twitter isn't important, the problem is that influential entities think that Twitter is important (and representative).
    - endorphinbomber 4y ago
      >Twitter isn't important, the problem is that influential entities think that Twitter is important (and representative). Which makes it important..
      - 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 4y ago
        Correct, as long as the illusion stays up.
drcongo 4y ago
Do you have examples of the stuff getting leaked? I've not seen anything (though I tend to stay away from celebrity gossip).
- snarf21 4y ago
  There is lots of articles out there. Try this one: https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/10/1/23381257/elon-musk-texts-twitter-billionaires https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/10/1/23381257/elon-musk-text...
  - drcongo 4y ago
    Many thanks.
  - rsynnott 4y ago
    This... wasn't leaked, was it? It was released legitimately, as I understand it.
  - bogomipz 4y ago
    From your link: >"Within days of the announcement that the Twitter board had accepted Musk’s $44 billion offer, Benioff, who is currently worth more than $6 billion, sent Musk a cryptic text about his own vision for the platform, writing on April 27, “Happy to talk about it if this is interesting: Twitter conversational OS—the townsquare for your digital life.” Wow. This is like something right out of an episode of Mike Judge's "Silicon Valley." These people might be extremely wealthy but jeez they are basically buffoons. I'm guessing Beinoff only shares his "A" material with Musk and he obviously felt that "Twitter conversational OS" was worth sharing. You couldn't get any more Gavin Belson than either "conversational OS" or "the townsquare for your digital life.”
- andsoitis 4y ago
  This article is interesting for surfacing the impulsive, non-strategic, and sucking-up communiques from those in Musk’s orbit: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/09/elon-musk-texts-twitter-trial-jack-dorsey/671619/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/09/elon-...

I have no inside info but I think this is because he is getting wrecked by discovery. More and more about him is being leaked from that and he doesn't like it. He'd rather lose billions.

metadat 4y ago

The Musk brand damage could exceed a "paltry" $44B when his dirty laundry becomes public, especially given he'll only need to put in less than 50% of his own money. Regarding the information leakage, does this signal that Mr. Musk treats people poorly in his private dealings? It's all damage mitigation at this point.

DeRock 4y ago

> He'd rather lose billions. Its an AND not an OR. He either proceeds with purchase and loses billions, or proceeds with discovery/trial, has personal info exposed, and is then forced to proceed with purchase and lose billions. He's tried to stall proceedings so far, but has reached a legal dead end.

jamiek88 4y ago

I’m scared what scorched earth musk in charge of a zeitgeist weapon like twitter will do.

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anzic 4y ago
- dane-pgp 4y ago
  Yeah, it sounds like a TTRPG doesn't it? "Does applying scorched earth musk to my zeitgeist weapon always succeed, or do I need to roll another D20 for that?"
adventured 4y ago
We can build another if it comes down to it. See: Facebook's declining usage, and the rise of TikTok. Social networks are all quite replaceable, there are no exceptions. Twitter won in its micro blogging space (there were numerous competitors for a brief time, way back), however it has never been a stellar product. It can and will be replaced if Musk turns it into a disaster.
- warkdarrior 4y ago
  I think the jury is still out on whether TikTok is an improvement over Facebook.
  - pwdisswordfish9 4y ago
    Who said anything about improvement?
tenpies 4y ago
Well the TSLAQ community is certainly assuming they're gone. It will be funny of the Blue Checkmarks have to form their own social media platform - or in incredibly irony - end up in one of the "right wing" platforms as a refuge of free speech.
WheatMillington 4y ago
There are two cohorts who dramatically overestimate Twitter's influence and importance - tech people and journalists. Twitter really is not very important. At my non tech workplace of 800 people, I'd be surprised if 50 were active on Twitter.
- dlkf 4y ago
  “Most people aren’t on twitter” is not a valid argument against twitter’s influence. Compare with “most people aren’t CEOs”, “most people aren’t politicians,” etc. Some people have a lot more influence than others, and the influential people are disproportionately on twitter.
- 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 4y ago
  > tech people and journalists Also politicians. That is the whole problem though, isn't it? A few hundred random people on Twitter are often more than enough to manufacture a wave of articles across multiple news websites and newspapers. Twitter isn't important, the problem is that influential entities think that Twitter is important (and representative).
  - endorphinbomber 4y ago
    >Twitter isn't important, the problem is that influential entities think that Twitter is important (and representative). Which makes it important..
    - 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 4y ago
      Correct, as long as the illusion stays up.

drcongo 4y ago

Do you have examples of the stuff getting leaked? I've not seen anything (though I tend to stay away from celebrity gossip).

snarf21 4y ago
There is lots of articles out there. Try this one: https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/10/1/23381257/elon-musk-texts-twitter-billionaires https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/10/1/23381257/elon-musk-text...
- drcongo 4y ago
  Many thanks.
- rsynnott 4y ago
  This... wasn't leaked, was it? It was released legitimately, as I understand it.
- bogomipz 4y ago
  From your link: >"Within days of the announcement that the Twitter board had accepted Musk’s $44 billion offer, Benioff, who is currently worth more than $6 billion, sent Musk a cryptic text about his own vision for the platform, writing on April 27, “Happy to talk about it if this is interesting: Twitter conversational OS—the townsquare for your digital life.” Wow. This is like something right out of an episode of Mike Judge's "Silicon Valley." These people might be extremely wealthy but jeez they are basically buffoons. I'm guessing Beinoff only shares his "A" material with Musk and he obviously felt that "Twitter conversational OS" was worth sharing. You couldn't get any more Gavin Belson than either "conversational OS" or "the townsquare for your digital life.”
andsoitis 4y ago
This article is interesting for surfacing the impulsive, non-strategic, and sucking-up communiques from those in Musk’s orbit: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/09/elon-musk-texts-twitter-trial-jack-dorsey/671619/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/09/elon-...