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The technology behind Bella Hadid’s spray-on dress
- Lendal 4y agoThey mention the obvious medical uses like spray-on casts and spray-on bandages, but what about spray-on physical restraints? Or spray-on condoms? Get creative, think outside the box.
- tantalor 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spray-on_condom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spray-on_condom > The biggest problem, however, was that the drying process took 2–3 minutes before the condom was dry enough to use, which was too long to be truly marketable.
- nielsbot 4y agoSurprised to learn there's a "Institute for Condom Consultancy"
- xwdv 4y agoA larger version that can be blasted like a foam cannon into a large mob could provide for efficient crowd control when you need to arrest multiple people at once.
- zimpenfish 4y agoBetter than the riot foam they've already tested, I think[1], which looks to me just like a huge tank of expanding polyurethane foam... [1] https://www.howitworksdaily.com/experimental-crowd-control-riot-foam/ https://www.howitworksdaily.com/experimental-crowd-control-r...
- hinkley 4y agoAs with most less-than-lethal products, it's all fun and games until you hit someone in the face with it.
- dtgriscom 4y agoOr, provide for safe sex for all of them at the same time.
- rodgerd 4y agoJudge Dredd's riot foam.
- rad_gruchalski 4y ago“I am the FOAM!”
- conductr 4y agoI'd rather have a functional web shooter than any practical use
- make3 4y agoI feel like focusing to spray your organ with sufficient coverage is way more complicated than just slipping a regular condom on
- Fred27 4y ago
- m463 4y agoPlausible deniability.
- yamtaddle 4y agoOn fark.com this headline would read: "The technology behind Bella Hadid’s spray-on dress and you've already clicked nobody is reading this far"
- q-big 4y ago> Nobody's reading that article for the technology. I honestly did read it for the technology. P.S. It is very plausible that the number of asexual people is higher among nerds than in a representative sample of the whole population.
- azinman2 4y agoI read it too. Didn’t even occur to me to sexualize this. Instead I was thinking, wow that’s cool, but the dress is actually quite boring.
- saalweachter 4y agoI did immediately think of /r/mendrawingwomen's frequent complaint of "clothing doesn't work that way".
- cantSpellSober 4y agoIt made me realize how strange breast fetishism is when she covered her nipples for modesty before having her spray on dress applied
- yieldcrv 4y agoYou don’t need to be asexual and I’ve seen this moment from the fashion show in a variety of publications Was this really a moment to bring awareness to asexual people
- pazimzadeh 4y ago> Bella Hadid's spray-on dress uses 3D technology Okay Edit: http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
- wccrawford 4y agoRight? I don't see how this relates to "3d technology" of any kind.
- kitd 4y agoIt's mentioned in the article. 3d printing is one form of application, as well as spraying and painting.
- margalabargala 4y agoI used 3d technology last weekend when I used a shovel to dig a ditch.
- moralestapia 4y agoA 3D technology just flew over my house!
- bowmessage 4y agoHow long did it take? Might have been 4D!
- intrasight 4y agoI used 3D technology to make my lunch today ;)
- cantSpellSober 4y agoYou'd have to get all the way to the fourth sentence: The spray-on fabric is applied using the likes of aerosol tech, industrial sprayers, and 3D printing
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- Synaesthesia 4y agoSo this will save me time in getting dressed in the morning.
- causi 4y agocan be washed, re-worn Ok, then show me that. That is interesting. Show me a painted-on body suit after ten trips through the washer/dryer. Who cares about some spray-painted model? consists of short fibers bound together with polymers and bio polymers, and greener solvents that evaporate So he shredded fabric and mixed it with paint. Who thought this drivel was newsworthy?
- carnitine 4y agoWould shredded fabric and paint ordinarily form a dress when sprayed?
- causi 4y agoIt will form a layer of glued-together unwoven fabric like the one on Hadid's body, yes.
- thatguy0900 4y agoShe took the shoulder straps off after and had them dangling. It wasn't attached to her like what your suggesting
- function_seven 4y ago> It will form a layer of glued-together unwoven fabric... Yes. > ...like the one on Hadid's body Absolutely not. If you watched the video, the end result was a garment that was not stuck to the wearer. The straps were independent from the shoulders. The rest of it flowed and fluttered like real fabric, and not like the typical "spray on dress" we've seen before. It's not a coating once finished. It's a separate thing. Notice how the fabric didn't cling to her inner legs, but bridged that gap instead. Now I agree that I'd like to see how durable this thing is once it's been washed. I'll accept whatever wash method is standard for a fancy dress. That is: if it can't be tossed into a normal washing machine, but can be handwashed with Woolite in the sink, then that's good enough for me.
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- Freak_NL 4y agoIntriguing. Probably not well suited for models with arachnophobia though. I wonder how strong the resulting layer is. The should straps being adjusted in the video show that it's definitely not weak.
- birdman3131 4y agoDepends on what variant of arachnophobia they have. Many are more afraid of the spiders and not the webs themselves.
- andrewflnr 4y agoI've never heard of arachnophobia being a fear of webs rather than, you know, the actual arachnids. It's utterly bizarre to me that that would be GP's first thought...
- turbohz 4y agoWhere there's a web, there's gotta be a spider?
- andrewflnr 4y agoRight, but even if that was how phobias work, which to my understanding it's not, it still depends on being afraid of the spider to be afraid of the web, while the poster above is implying there are some people who are primarily/only afraid of the web.
- birdman3131 4y agoSo when I googled it while in the middle of writing my last comment It was heavily implied that there was not a separate phobia for just the web. https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/fear-of-spiders#spiders-vs-spiderwebs https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/fear-of-spid...
- hanniabu 4y agoSounds great to breath in, have directly on your skin, and for the environment
- q-big 4y agoI also wondered why the model and the person who applies the spray-on dress on her do not wear some kind of protective mask (like varnishers do for their varnishing work) while the spraying work is being done.
- Kaibeezy 4y agoMaybe it’s not toxic, Occam.
- llampx 4y agoMaybe it is and they didn't wear masks because it would take away from the optics.
- Kaibeezy 4y agoNon-woven fabric - WO2003104540A2 https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2003104540A2/en https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2003104540A2/en
- hanniabu 4y ago> by applying, incorporating or activating chemical or thermoplastic bonding agents, e.g. adhesives characterised by the bonding agents used Ah yes, those sweet non-toxic bonding agents
- josephmosby 4y agoReading up on the stuff that's actually coming out of the can, it doesn't look like there are particles that are small enough to actually aerosolize into the air. They tout wool and mohair as candidate things that can be sprayed.
- bigwavedave 4y agoAll I can think of are the "spray-on shoes" from "Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs".
- m463 4y agoWhat about the makeup applicator device in the 5th element?
- dosenbrot 4y agoHomer Simpson invented a make-up-shotgun.
- dools 4y agoAll I can think of is the spray on swim suit in Futurama which is more or less exactly this. “How do I look?” “Like a cheap French harlot” “French!?”
- TheAceOfHearts 4y agoThis was the first thing that came to mind as well. Here's the clip link: https://youtu.be/RwGc7Btg-Cs https://youtu.be/RwGc7Btg-Cs
- _0w8t 4y agoSomebody still reads «Return from the stars» by Stanisław Lem. Spray-on clothes were part of Lem’s version of the future.
- mmcdermott 4y agoThat was my first association as well.
- cwp 4y agoI thought of "superskin" in Heinlein's Friday.
- LorenPechtel 4y agoThe same book came to mind, but in the context of bodypainting. How long before we can make an inkjet body painter--I'm thinking of some print arms that rotate around the body on actuators that keep them very close to the skin. Careful motion tracking of the body to ensure it's spraying the right bit of skin as it moves. (I have a hard time imagining a printer that's fast enough to hold a position for, not to mention the need to breathe.) And where exactly does that fall in terms of indecent exposure? Make sure the bits that the law requires covered have solid patterns at that point, it seems it would be legal. (On the other hand, I have doubts about the practicality of wearing body paint in ordinary life--what can be durable enough to take what life routinely dishes out, but easy to remove? He also missed the fact that people only in bodypaint should follow nudist convention and sit on a towel.)
- wruza 4y agoI don’t think that wearing a tight polymer/sprayed on clothing is a good idea like at all. Various issues arise, e.g. maintaining hygiene and overheating. Also it may look cool, but I bet that subj dress actually felt awful (not that fashion models weren’t used to it).
- LorenPechtel 4y ago
- dqpb 4y agoCool. What happens when you inhale it?
- system2 4y agoIt is made with oxygen releasing nanobots. It increases the lifespan of the model.
- PaulDavisThe1st 4y agoAlso, strength, endurance, cognitive processing, sensory resolution and musical taste.
- sp332 4y agoBut it uses a Crysis-style wheel UI where you only get one of those things at a time.
- neogodless 4y agoCame here to see if anyone else was getting a strong Silly String vibe. So far, no. It really looks like it to me, except I suspect a lot more adhesive (to itself) than Silly String, while remaining "not too adhesive" to skin.
- Promyvion 4y agoFrom the article: “Originally, the spray-on dress started with a can of silly string. “I thought I could create a mist,” mentions Torres in a 2013 TED Talk. “That was the eureka moment.” he adds. The technology can be used in fashion to not only create dresses like done on Hadid, but also to repair any damaged items.”
- neogodless 4y agoBusted. Definitely skimmed this article and watched videos! Thanks for pointing that out. Really interesting evolution of the technology, especially how it becomes cohesive and creates a surface.
- jrumbut 4y agoSilly string was my first thought because my friends and I used to try (semi successfully) to make costumes applying it like they do. It worked best with a near empty can when it comes out fragmented like in the video. Now if only we had been more glamorous about it we could have beaten this company by 30 years!
- einpoklum 4y ago
- happyopossum 4y agoTFA mentions specifically that the clothes can be washed and re-worn...
- einpoklum 4y ago
- phpthrowaway99 4y agoMaybe it's just made of gelatin and you can compost it the next morning.
- caseysoftware 4y agoIf this can be de-composed and reconstituted, it starts to look like a Star Trek replicator. It could have some wild implications for fashion where "yesterday's" style can be remade into tomorrow's trendsetting look overnight.
- enriquec 4y agoThey used "sprayable non-woven" fabric like fabrican (it was on the discovery channel in 2013 apparently: https://youtu.be/nKZuPPjoxHQ https://youtu.be/nKZuPPjoxHQ)
- Doxin 4y agoAs a reference point: the protective bags around monitors and other easily scratched products tend to be "non woven fabric". If you look closely you can see the fibers are going every which way, instead of being in a regular pattern like woven or knitted fabrics.
- hn_throwaway_99 4y agoI'm really interested in how they made this a "dress" and not "pants". That is, from the Instagram video, Bella Hadid comes out completely naked except for underwear. You can see as they're spraying that she's keeping her legs close together, but still in the final scene where the assistant cuts the slit up the side, the dress then hangs like a "normal" fitted evening gown. I feel like they must have skipped over some parts about how they kept this "silly string" from getting stuck between her legs.
- dfxm12 4y agoHer legs were close enough together & the stuff was being sprayed at such an angle that it wasn't wrapping around individual legs in any meaningful ways.
- henryfjordan 4y agoIt looks like she stands with her legs pressed very close together so that there's not really a chance for the material to form a pant leg. Towards her ankles it looks like pants do start to form but are cleaned up by assistants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz_ltPAzuJI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz_ltPAzuJI I imagine you are correct that there were a few steps/techniques not shown in the video.
- 323 4y agoMaybe it's both, as in the substance completely fills all the available space, like a triangular wedge. We can't really see the underneath of the dress.
- intrasight 4y agoI was wondering if she had a transparent "wrap" on her thighs.
- amflare 4y agoIn the video it looks like one of the assistants sprays across the front of her legs, but from the side, so that a lot of strands are crossing the gap in her legs. Only then they moved around the front and started applying over these supporting strands.
- JoeAltmaier 4y agoThey created a traditional design. But that design is what it is, because of limits of fabric and construction. I'd like to see what could be reimagined using this - strapless, or interlocking, or multiple-tiled-pieces, or what? Let's see no more ordinary strap-over-the-shoulder sheath dresses.
- happyopossum 4y agoStrapless dresses are already a thing, and a well worn (no pun intended) path at that.
- JoeAltmaier 4y agoSure. But how about one made of a crosshatch pattern? You know, something creative that couldn't be done (easily) with just cloth.
- dredmorbius 4y agoThe 2013 Fabrican video mentioned elsewhere in this thread shows designs that are not strictly form-fitting. I'd describe them as "floral".
- annoyingnoob 4y agoClosets of the future look more like a paint booth? Step into the booth, press the button. First, the spray-on tan, then a quick dry, then spray on clothes. Step into the booth again at the end of the day to wash it all off and recycle it for tomorrow.
- conductr 4y agoSherwin-Williams logo and tag line says it all, "Cover the Earth"
- skc 4y agoCurious what happens when you sit down and chafe it
- cobertos 4y agoAny risk of inhaling those fibers becoming an issue in the lungs? Wouldn't want this sprayed on me and it found out to have the health effects that asbestos does.
- happyopossum 4y agoThose fibers are pretty large, so yeah - you soundly want to inhale them, but it looks like it'd be pretty easy not to.
- IshKebab 4y agoMost fibres aren't nearly as bad as asbestos. Even glass fibres aren't actually that bad. It's probably fine as a one-off demo.
- somecommit 4y agoGreat, now invent a vacuum working the other way around
- insane_dreamer 4y ago> spray-on sterile bandages from aerosol cans this sounds very useful so you don't need to have bandages of different shapes/sizes in your first aid kit
- spicybright 4y agoLook into liquid bandages. It's exactly this and is already available at every drug store. Comes as a little nail polish-style bottle + brush. It sterilizes and seals, pretty much replacing my whole bandaid kit I used to keep in my pocket book. I'll even buy a bunch at a time and give them out to friends. It's so useful yet no one knows about it. (That said, you won't be sealing bullet wounds or giant gashes with it)
- insane_dreamer 4y agogood to know! thanks.
- aaaaaaaaaaab 4y agoOr just superglue.
- kyriakos 4y agoAlso comes in spray form. It's particularly useful for superficial but large scratches you want to protect if you want to go swimming because it creates a waterproof skin layer (I used it during a beach holiday a few years ago and it totally saved my holiday).
- yalogin 4y agoFor all intents and purposes it acts like a cloth? That means, I am hoping, taking it off will be clean and not like removing cotton from a rose bush.
- Tao3300 4y ago> integrated with diagnostic devices that can monitor the health of the wearer Wtf? What grim meathook future establishment would involve wearing spray-on smart clothes that monitor my vitals? Need to know so I don't accidentally go in there.
- scheme271 4y agoThere's a lot of people that would find that useful. I.e. diabetics that need to monitor blood sugar levels comes to mind but I'm sure there are other medical conditions were it'd be helpful to continuously monitor some vitals. Fall sensors for people that are prone to falling and who might need help if they fall is also another use case.
- boomboomsubban 4y agoAthletes were my first thought.
- fortran77 4y agoI wonder if the same technology can be used for an improved version of spray-on hair
- tonymet 4y agoDespite fashion varying over time it tends to become more and more revealing.
- WalterBright 4y agoI'm guessing you weren't around in the 70s.
- wahnfrieden 4y agocherry picked / historically inaccurate
- rafram 4y agoAn interesting theory, but not one that really holds up, given the existence of the loincloth.
- gonzo41 4y agoI wonder what propellent they used? I can imagine getting head spins from having all that polymer off gassing there.
- blamazon 4y agoThe applicator looks to me a lot like a HVLP (high volume low pressure) gravity fed paint applicator, which I have used to spray automotive paint. In that scenario, compressed air is used as propellant. Example: https://www.johnsonautobodysupply.com/meiji-air-gravity-feed-hvlp-spray-gun-f410.php https://www.johnsonautobodysupply.com/meiji-air-gravity-feed...
- phpthrowaway99 4y agoThe propellent is just regular air, compressed to maybe 20-80 psi. I'd be more worried about the solvents that make this sprayable but then dry within minutes.
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- axiolite 4y agoHighly flammable! I avoid synthetic fabrics to begin with because in a fire they turn to melted plastic and cause instant 3rd degree burns. Natural fabrics will char, protecting you a little bit in the process, and simply not make your injuries any worse. This spray fabric is sure to be far worse, an absolute nightmare in the event of fire.
- tantalor 4y agoArticle says the material can be natural e.g. cotton/linen. Those are flammable too, I guess... I would simply stay away from open flames when wearing this dress.
- fsckboy 4y ago"baby, when you wear that dress you are the open flame, and I'm the moth!"
- jupp0r 4y agoI always cringe when I see people wearing fleece jackets sitting super close to a camp fire thinking exactly that.
- tomxor 4y agoIf you've ever actually burned a fleece accidentally you will find they just shrivel up a bit, they don't catch on fire very easily unless you throw them in one.
- ck2 4y agoWhat happens when the model and the people applying that "fine mist" inhale it. Because they definitely inhaled some of that.
- phpthrowaway99 4y agoWhat if it's just liquid gelatin? People eat it. What's wrong with spraying a gummy bear onto someone?
- ck2 4y agoYour lungs don't eat liquid gelatin. Ever stand at a crosswalk on a busy street? You are inhaling brake dust from the pads. You know what brake pad dust is made out of? Asbestos. Go on, tell me particles in your lungs are trivial. Let me know if you still think that after you are 50+
- BenjiWiebe 4y agoSome quick googling indicates that asbestos brake pads are pretty rare these days (USA). Still can be a concern for mechanics who clean brake dust with compressed air though.
- Gatsky 4y agoThat was surprisingly banal. So much less interesting than this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErE7O5NceGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErE7O5NceGQ Surely they could have used drones with leering red LEDs to apply the material. Alexander McQueen was one of a kind.
- theflyingelvis 4y agoIt’s all fun and games until someone messes up and uses fiberglass.
- Technetium 4y agoPosts like this make HN feel more like a fashion magazine, I miss having news for nerds.
- flappyeagle 4y agoFashion has always been ruled by nerds.