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I really hope Apple doesn't turn its products to shit chasing ad revenue like almost everything else. Advertising is cancer.

by api 4y ago

jesuscript 4y ago
This is a company that sells 2000 dollar monitor stands. They are into a whole different game.
- api 4y ago
  I will happily buy into an ecosystem with stupidly priced accessories if it has no ads and solid protection for privacy. As soon as I see ads (in anything) it's shit. If it's loaded with spyware and constantly invades privacy it's shit. These are things I associate with low-end trash.
- ProAm 4y ago
  This is also a company that stopped including chargers and cables so they could make additional revenue from people already buying $1000 phones. [1] [1] https://hypebeast.com/2022/3/apple-made-6-5-billion-usd-by-removing-accessories-with-new-iphone-purchases https://hypebeast.com/2022/3/apple-made-6-5-billion-usd-by-r...
- gjsman-1000 4y ago
  It was $1000, and actually a brilliant move because actual Pro users don't use fixed stands (and so aren't offended), while wannabe-Pro rich people will buy it in droves. Thus increasing the luxury branding without actually offending actual Pro users. For those people, the $1000 stand price is a conversation starter and a reason to buy in itself.
  - goosedragons 4y ago
    I mean the VESA mount itself is still $200... I get that work is probably paying for most people's but it's not really usable out of the box without a pricey add-on. You can literally buy an entire monitor (with stand and VESA mount) for $200.
MBCook 4y ago
I’m scared they’ve started doing that and the customer experience fall is just a matter of time.
bumblebritches5 4y ago
subsubzero 4y ago
This is by biggest concern and one of the reasons I use apple products. absolutely ads, and now I heard that they are injecting them into apple maps, I may have to switch to google maps if this happens.
- gjsman-1000 4y ago
  Google Maps has had ads and "Sponsored Content" for quite a while now.
  - Ensorceled 4y ago
    Yes, but if they are using a worse product because it doesn't have ads, now that the worse product ALSO has ads, they may as well switch back.
  - subsubzero 4y ago
    good to know, I haven't used google maps app in over 5+ years. Maybe I will have to go with a TomTom now s/
- badwolf 4y ago
  You might check out Here WeGo (formerly Nokia Maps) I've found their offline maps support is pretty great.
adra 4y ago
They're reinvesting like 5-10% of profits on r&d? Something tells me they're already living fat off their existing wins. Ads would only further send apple into the realm of unicorn money printing behemoths.
alphabetting 4y ago
As much as advertising can suck, I highly prefer not having all news sites hard paywalled and not needing premium subscriptions for essential services like search, email and YouTube.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  eMail pre-dates the ad ecosystem; search is actually pretty nice but Google is slowly losing ground to SEO, a new paradigm might be necessary; and YouTube is basically bad.
onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
They can't charge any more for their phones. How are they supposed to make more money from phones if not taking a cut of FB's advertising money?
0xbadcafebee 4y ago
If it is cancer, it's very lucrative cancer. But actually it's not cancer, because it powers a lot of things. 99% of all interactions that people have on the internet today is due to advertising. Email, chat, videos, search, games, apps, news... all created, popularized, and funded by ads. I would prefer it if we weren't a consumer society, if our entire way of life wasn't powered by selling things, with advertising being the biggest underlying aspect. If Apple is smart they will retain their brand image of quality and elite lifestyle, because that's how they advertise their products. But they certainly aren't going to abandon ads.
falcolas 4y ago
Apple's news app is unusable for me because of the ads. Their app store is just this side of unusable because of ads. To be clear: I have adhd. Ads are intentionally designed to catch the attention of your average person with reasonable control of their attention. I have no chance in hell of keeping my attention on the article when I have to blast past 6-7 unblockable ads per article.

I really hope Apple doesn't turn its products to shit chasing ad revenue like almost everything else. Advertising is cancer.

by api 4y ago

I really hope Apple doesn't turn its products to shit chasing ad revenue like almost everything else. Advertising is cancer.

jesuscript 4y ago

This is a company that sells 2000 dollar monitor stands. They are into a whole different game.

api 4y ago
I will happily buy into an ecosystem with stupidly priced accessories if it has no ads and solid protection for privacy. As soon as I see ads (in anything) it's shit. If it's loaded with spyware and constantly invades privacy it's shit. These are things I associate with low-end trash.
ProAm 4y ago
This is also a company that stopped including chargers and cables so they could make additional revenue from people already buying $1000 phones. [1] [1] https://hypebeast.com/2022/3/apple-made-6-5-billion-usd-by-removing-accessories-with-new-iphone-purchases https://hypebeast.com/2022/3/apple-made-6-5-billion-usd-by-r...
gjsman-1000 4y ago
It was $1000, and actually a brilliant move because actual Pro users don't use fixed stands (and so aren't offended), while wannabe-Pro rich people will buy it in droves. Thus increasing the luxury branding without actually offending actual Pro users. For those people, the $1000 stand price is a conversation starter and a reason to buy in itself.
- goosedragons 4y ago
  I mean the VESA mount itself is still $200... I get that work is probably paying for most people's but it's not really usable out of the box without a pricey add-on. You can literally buy an entire monitor (with stand and VESA mount) for $200.

MBCook 4y ago

I’m scared they’ve started doing that and the customer experience fall is just a matter of time.

bumblebritches5 4y ago

subsubzero 4y ago

This is by biggest concern and one of the reasons I use apple products. absolutely ads, and now I heard that they are injecting them into apple maps, I may have to switch to google maps if this happens.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
Google Maps has had ads and "Sponsored Content" for quite a while now.
- Ensorceled 4y ago
  Yes, but if they are using a worse product because it doesn't have ads, now that the worse product ALSO has ads, they may as well switch back.
- subsubzero 4y ago
  good to know, I haven't used google maps app in over 5+ years. Maybe I will have to go with a TomTom now s/
badwolf 4y ago
You might check out Here WeGo (formerly Nokia Maps) I've found their offline maps support is pretty great.

adra 4y ago

They're reinvesting like 5-10% of profits on r&d? Something tells me they're already living fat off their existing wins. Ads would only further send apple into the realm of unicorn money printing behemoths.

alphabetting 4y ago

As much as advertising can suck, I highly prefer not having all news sites hard paywalled and not needing premium subscriptions for essential services like search, email and YouTube.

bee_rider 4y ago
eMail pre-dates the ad ecosystem; search is actually pretty nice but Google is slowly losing ground to SEO, a new paradigm might be necessary; and YouTube is basically bad.

onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago

They can't charge any more for their phones. How are they supposed to make more money from phones if not taking a cut of FB's advertising money?

0xbadcafebee 4y ago

If it is cancer, it's very lucrative cancer. But actually it's not cancer, because it powers a lot of things. 99% of all interactions that people have on the internet today is due to advertising. Email, chat, videos, search, games, apps, news... all created, popularized, and funded by ads. I would prefer it if we weren't a consumer society, if our entire way of life wasn't powered by selling things, with advertising being the biggest underlying aspect. If Apple is smart they will retain their brand image of quality and elite lifestyle, because that's how they advertise their products. But they certainly aren't going to abandon ads.

falcolas 4y ago

Apple's news app is unusable for me because of the ads. Their app store is just this side of unusable because of ads. To be clear: I have adhd. Ads are intentionally designed to catch the attention of your average person with reasonable control of their attention. I have no chance in hell of keeping my attention on the article when I have to blast past 6-7 unblockable ads per article.