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Something not mentioned but I’d like to know is the running cost?

iLoveOncall 4y ago
He gives his server specs and his cloud provider, he pays most likely a bit less than $100 per server per month: https://www.digitalocean.com/products/droplets https://www.digitalocean.com/products/droplets Which is absolutely insane for a website that serves 200 visitors per hour.
- rurban 4y ago
  probably that's why he already got white hair.
- ed25519FUUU 4y ago
  Just to be clear are you saying the costs are HIGH or LOW? That cost seems high given his relatively low traffic count but I don't know what sort of processing is going on in the background.
  - atmosx 4y ago
    High. Although the assumption here is that there are no spikes… which might or might not be true, but for a web-app, 200 visits per hour is not much.
    - chx 4y ago
      70 requests per second at peak-time
- yabones 4y ago
  8c/16g seems absolutely bonkers for an web/app server. I could understand if there was also a data & caching layer shoved onto the same box, but that's a LOT of memory for a python app. That's more inline with "mystery meat ASP.NET app built by some a couple guys in Slovenia 12 years ago".
  - cutler 4y ago
    > mystery meat ASP.NET app built by some a couple guys in Slovenia 12 years ago ??
- winrid 4y ago
  FastComments is on track to serve 1 billion pages loads next year and we spend less than $500/mo for US and EU deployments combined (+about 15m uniques a month and each user gets a live websocket connection).
swyx 4y ago
according to his bio https://twitter.com/wrede https://twitter.com/wrede he makes about 1.5k a month so infra cost is hopefully is not much more than that. for sure the labor is the biggest part of this operation
wolfspaw 4y ago
"Around 500 USD. I also use Sentry.io, Papertrail, Twillio and a few other tools that cost money." From: https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/xobba8/comment/iq054ar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/xobba8/comment/iq05...
- pocketsand 4y ago
  This seems to me to be a hefty bill for the traffic received. I run devops on a site with 1.5-2mm unique users a month, bursty traffic, and our monthly bill is just a couple hundred higher than his. We are overprovisioned.
  - jeroenhd 4y ago
    The author says the product is hosted on two VPS servers, a managed database, and a floating IP; I doubt that'll be a significant part of the costs. If that bill includes (business) licenses for software and subscriptions, it's pretty reasonable. I'm sure it can be done cheaper and I'm sure the author has looked into this as well. Maybe it's not worth the effort, or maybe there's some other blocker preventing migration to cheaper alternatives. Maybe $2500 of monthly profit is enough for the author not to bother messing with the code base? Maybe the fact the reported revenue has doubled [1] over two months has something to do with it? [1]: https://casparwre.de/blog/python-to-code-a-saas/ https://casparwre.de/blog/python-to-code-a-saas/ vs https://casparwre.de/blog/webapp-python-deployment/ https://casparwre.de/blog/webapp-python-deployment/
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He gives his server specs and his cloud provider, he pays most likely a bit less than $100 per server per month: https://www.digitalocean.com/products/droplets https://www.digitalocean.com/products/droplets Which is absolutely insane for a website that serves 200 visitors per hour.

rurban 4y ago
probably that's why he already got white hair.
ed25519FUUU 4y ago
Just to be clear are you saying the costs are HIGH or LOW? That cost seems high given his relatively low traffic count but I don't know what sort of processing is going on in the background.
- atmosx 4y ago
  High. Although the assumption here is that there are no spikes… which might or might not be true, but for a web-app, 200 visits per hour is not much.
  - chx 4y ago
    70 requests per second at peak-time
yabones 4y ago
8c/16g seems absolutely bonkers for an web/app server. I could understand if there was also a data & caching layer shoved onto the same box, but that's a LOT of memory for a python app. That's more inline with "mystery meat ASP.NET app built by some a couple guys in Slovenia 12 years ago".
- cutler 4y ago
  > mystery meat ASP.NET app built by some a couple guys in Slovenia 12 years ago ??
winrid 4y ago
FastComments is on track to serve 1 billion pages loads next year and we spend less than $500/mo for US and EU deployments combined (+about 15m uniques a month and each user gets a live websocket connection).

swyx 4y ago

according to his bio https://twitter.com/wrede https://twitter.com/wrede he makes about 1.5k a month so infra cost is hopefully is not much more than that. for sure the labor is the biggest part of this operation

wolfspaw 4y ago

"Around 500 USD. I also use Sentry.io, Papertrail, Twillio and a few other tools that cost money." From: https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/xobba8/comment/iq054ar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/xobba8/comment/iq05...

pocketsand 4y ago
This seems to me to be a hefty bill for the traffic received. I run devops on a site with 1.5-2mm unique users a month, bursty traffic, and our monthly bill is just a couple hundred higher than his. We are overprovisioned.
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  The author says the product is hosted on two VPS servers, a managed database, and a floating IP; I doubt that'll be a significant part of the costs. If that bill includes (business) licenses for software and subscriptions, it's pretty reasonable. I'm sure it can be done cheaper and I'm sure the author has looked into this as well. Maybe it's not worth the effort, or maybe there's some other blocker preventing migration to cheaper alternatives. Maybe $2500 of monthly profit is enough for the author not to bother messing with the code base? Maybe the fact the reported revenue has doubled [1] over two months has something to do with it? [1]: https://casparwre.de/blog/python-to-code-a-saas/ https://casparwre.de/blog/python-to-code-a-saas/ vs https://casparwre.de/blog/webapp-python-deployment/ https://casparwre.de/blog/webapp-python-deployment/

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