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Reading about the unsustainability of the plant based fake meats was all it required for every single person I know who cares about such things to never even tr
by bsenftner 4y ago
Reading about the unsustainability of the plant based fake meats was all it required for every single person I know who cares about such things to never even try them.
- DoctorOW 4y agoI've not seen this. What source do you have?
- garrickvanburen 4y agoAlso interested in sources
- bsenftner 4y agoI hate our SEO'd world: trying to locate the sources again, there is a full on propaganda war taking place on this issue. It has become full time work to locate reputable sources at this time. Searches give pages and pages of marketing.
- pessimizer 4y agoYeah, there's not a chance. You have to save them when you find them. That's the real benefit of the actual source over the pop science article or press release summarizing it: the real source is going to be typeset into a pdf that you can keep, instead of being a link that changes or rots, or a memory of something that was dropped from search engines or out-SEO'd.
- Bakary 4y agoI am sympathetic to your ideological worldview, but simply claiming that something is common knowledge and being unable to come up with sources is concerning, even in the context of an SEO war.
- Clampower 4y agoPlease provide a source or delete your claim.
- bsenftner 4y agoWho are you to make such a demand? Talk to politically aware vegetarians and they'll tell you it is common knowledge among that population.
- Dylan16807 4y agoOkay come on. I believe you saw something credible at some point, but to post "it's common knowledge" two minutes after saying you can't find a source is a really weak argument and doesn't justify "who are you".
- bsenftner 4y agoBack when the Impossible Burger first came out, there was quite a bit of interest in vegetarian circles. That interest turned sour very quickly as the sustainability of their process was investigated. This was about 2 years ago? Today the vegetarians I know have entirely moved on and the idea of plant based meats is just yet another meat culture noise to be ignored.
- ipaddr 4y agohttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestar.com/amp/news/insight/2022/01/23/those-fake-meat-hamburgers-might-not-be-a-planet-saver-after-all.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestar.com/amp/news/insigh...
- Dylan16807 4y agoThat amp link doesn't work for me. But the article doesn't really support the argument. Complaining that many soy farms are currently using bad practices doesn't make soy inherently unsustainable. Neither does an argument that cow farming preserves certain grasslands. And even if CO2 is a "limited" metric it's one that's pretty relevant to sustainability. So I'm open to being convinced, but this article ain't it.
- tomweingarten 4y agoEven if this is true (and I've never been able to find credible evidence it is), what we're seeing now is just the upper bound of sustainable plant-based food production. As they scale it up and take advantage of technologies like precision fermentation, all evidence suggests this will continue to improve even further. Compare that to animal agriculture, where thermodynamic limitations on increased efficiency are strong, and most of the options to increase sustainability come at the cost of terribly inhumane practices.