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The win11 / Edge bullshit finally pushed me to migrate my last win machine to linux. I used to love Windows, nowadays it just makes me bitter. Do you know typin

• MichaelCollins 4y ago
  > The win11 / Edge bullshit finally pushed me to migrate my last win machine to linux. I used to love Windows, nowadays it just makes me bitter. Do you know typing "torrent" in the start menu doesn't find "qbittorrent"? In 2022. It sums it all. Heh, try KDE's KRunner. I type 'kt' and it matches ktorrent. But if I type 'kto' it switches to matching "Desktop 8". 'ktor' once again matches ktorrent.
  • thfuran 4y ago
    That sounds about like m experience trying to open intellij in windows.
  • LtWorf 4y ago
    Sounds like you want trabucco! https://github.com/ltworf/trabucco https://github.com/ltworf/trabucco
  • bryanlarsen 4y ago
    That's a common autocomplete behaviour. It's trying to be helpful. If you actually wanted ktorrent, you probably would have selected ktorrent on 'kt'. By typing another letter you're hinting you might want something other than ktorrent. Not sure if I agree with the behaviour, but I understand it.
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    • MichaelCollins 4y ago
      I guess I get it, but it doesn't work well for me. By the time I recognize the ktorrent icon and hit enter, my fingers have already typed the next letter. With this system I have to deliberately pause pressing enter.
    • wolpoli 4y ago
      That is a good explanation. The behavior is reasonable if we all type one character at a time, wait for the list of suggestions to update and stabilize, and review the list before typing the next character. Unfortunately, some of us are impatient and just type a bunch of characters at once. But I understand the type of audience the designers are going after.
    • Tyr42 4y ago
      Thanks, I just thought it was broken. I hate this behaviour, as I'm usually looking as my fingers type the last bit, and if I keep adding matching letters, please don't change?
      • dpkirchner 4y ago
        It's definitely broken, but apparently by design. It's a deliberbug.
        • sshine 4y ago
          Microsoft is full of those. When you enter your birthday during Windows installation (yes, you have to have a Microsoft network account to log in to your own computer, and you have to supply a birthday), the button for confirming the date is a small, grey checkmark hiding below the date picker. Clicking the big, blue “Continue” button in the lower corner will discard your date choice (since it wasn’t picked) and then fail form validation because you didn’t pick a date. There is a certain cubicle masochism associated with this kind of system. I’m convinced that computers did not get easier to use since all of them had command prompts. But you know, it’s got windows!
  • ht85 4y ago
    Thank you, sorry my message was misleading, I was talking about the windows start menu. KDE / Gnome / Mate work as expected afaik!
• nmz 4y ago
  I used to solve this by just installing another launcher. there were some good ones around, they should still work I hope.
  • ht85 4y ago
    Yeah, for those interested PolyMC works well on linux. It's a bit rough around the edges, but a diamond nonetheless compared to the official launcher. Another anecdote is that minecraft 1.19 doesn't work on Ubuntu 18, as it uses glibc 2.29. D:
    • dhalucario 4y ago
      Weird, I am on Fedora and have none of the issues.
  • trinsic2 4y ago
    Yea before I switched to PopOS due to the Windows 11 online account/edge browser fiasco I used the launcher "Executor[0]". Exectuor is by far the most powerful launcher I have ever used, to bad there isn't a launcher in Linux that has all of the features. [0]: https://executor.dk/ https://executor.dk/ If you want to read the specifics of my transition to Linux: https://www.scottrlarson.com/publications/publication-transition-windows-to-linux/ https://www.scottrlarson.com/publications/publication-transi...
• epolanski 4y ago
  Oddly enough I can't find a better programming environment nowadays than the win, wsl, powertools combo. I noticed the same about qbittorrent tho.
  • ht85 4y ago
    I don't know... everything works so well on linux out of the box nowadays, and over time you can setup everything exactly as you want. As an engineer I feel like it's a great investment and loving my setup has a big impact on the enjoyment I get from work. If you spend the time, can all the annoying stuff be turned off in Windows?
    • doubled112 4y ago
      I loved my Linux setups so much I automated them with some Ansible and a bunch of scripts and config files in a git repo to set up my user profile too. I can't seem to get two Windows installs to be functionally identical the same way. I also can't believe winget is a relatively new invention. You can turn off most of the annoying stuff, for a time. I'm convinced that sometimes settings just change on their own.
    • yazantapuz 4y ago
      A couple of days ago, I give a very brief workshop of Arduino. All the students with Linux boxes have some kind of problems, like the user was not a member of the dialout group or the group does not exist at all. I still prefer Linux, but no everything works "out of the box".
      • lelanthran 4y ago
        > All the students with Linux boxes have some kind of problems, like the user was not a member of the dialout group or the group does not exist at all. I still prefer Linux, but no everything works "out of the box". This (requiring elevated privileges) is a very niche thing, though (raw access to the serial port).
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• userbinator 4y ago
  So much for the modern, developer and open source-friendly narrative That's exactly what it is: encouraging "developers", some of whom IMHO shouldn't even be writing software, to indulge in "coding" while completely ignoring and antagonising the user perspective. Countless users' workflows just broken with no recourse just because some selfish bastard wanted to use something "new and different" without considering the wider effects. When the culture only cares about promoting new and shiny tools/frameworks/etc. to developers and feeding their appetite for otherwise useless things, and in doing so, forsakes the original purpose of software, this is the result.
• foepys 4y ago
  > Do you know typing "torrent" in the start menu doesn't find "qbittorrent"? In 2022. It sums it all. It's even worse. I want to open Notepad++ and begin to type N -> notepad.exe No -> notepad.exe Not -> Notepad++ Note -> notepad.exe Notep -> Notepad++ Notepa -> Notepad++ Notepad -> notepad.exe The times I actually wanted to open notepad.exe is exactly 0 but the stupid algorithm sees me mistakenly opening notepad.exe because of the aforementioned stupid algorithm and recommends it even more often. It's like it's designed to create the most annoying search experience possible.
  • aeharding 4y ago
    Ugh, Apple is guilty of this too in spotlight search. Actually worse, because it randomly changes after maybe 500ms, randomly, after typing a character, sometimes. N -> OneNote.app -> Then (maybe) quickly changes to Notes No -> Notes.app -> Then (maybe) changes to OneNote Not -> OneNote.app Note -> Notes.app etc
    • dmitriid 4y ago
      That one is at least malleable. Suffer through invalid suggestions, wait, select the one you need, and after 10 or so attempts it finally learns that you always want that particular app as your first choice. At least that's how it was before. I wouldn't be surprised if they broke it.
    • climb_stealth 4y ago
      I'd say the way around it is to install Alfred [0] and be done with it. Just have to disable the web search option. Because no, I did not want to open a browser and search for "norepad", I just fat fingered it. Luckily once disabled it works just right. [0] https://www.alfredapp.com/ https://www.alfredapp.com/
    • ayewo 4y ago
      There's also Raycast [1], which is a f-r-e-e VC-funded alternative to Alfred that was mentioned by a sibling comment. 1: https://www.raycast.com/ https://www.raycast.com/
• hparadiz 4y ago
  This is my experience as well. All I want is a solid block task bar and solid black window title bars. Since Windows 7 it's become next to impossible to do that without uxtheme.dll patchers. I'm done. Linux all the way now.
• zvrba 4y ago
  I don't get the hate on Edge. I use it daily and am very happy. Not the least, it includes some cool security features, i.e., sandboxing at the OS-level https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/microsoft-defender-application-guard/md-app-guard-overview https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-pr...
  • justinclift 4y ago
    Perhaps because it's being forced down people's throats, rather than people being able to make their own choice?
  • yellowapple 4y ago
    As far as Chrome and its myriad knockoffs go, I'd say Edge is probably the least bad. It at least works as a browser, and it's among the few that has an option for a vertical tab bar instead of shoving all the tabs into the top and squishing them together into teeny tiny slivers like an absolute fucking maniac. I still prefer Firefox, though.
  • NayamAmarshe 4y ago
    All those security features with 0 privacy. Refer: https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf The research concluded that Microsoft Edge is the most invasive, along with Yandex.
• NayamAmarshe 4y ago
  I moved away from Windows for the same reason. Edge is a highly anti-competitive and privacy invasive browser. I'm surprised people don't care as long as the data exploitation is not directly visible to them. Not to mention their new loan scams. Edge is a spyware/adware first and browser second.