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My phone is about 5 years old, not getting cool updates any more. I'm about 95% sure there are many moments when the OS inserts a fake pause in various places t

My phone is about 5 years old, not getting cool updates any more. I'm about 95% sure there are many moments when the OS inserts a fake pause in various places to make me think the phone is getting slow and it's time to upgrade.

kapitanjakc 4y ago
I've had that issue. At first I thought it was because of heavy apps that I used. Teams, WhatsApp and the likes. I removed everything and it is still very slow in opening the browser. I wanted to root it and check if it works but got confused as there are numerous choice available for rooting OS.
- MBCook 4y ago
  Have you tried a total wipe and reinstall? It’s rarely needed but can make a difference in such circumstances.
- astrange 4y ago
  If the battery or storage is aged it can slow down apparently unrelated things. They're both consumable components.
- rraghur 4y ago
  More likely flash degradation than any explicit code to insert delays
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    A normal user had better not see flash degradation. With the massive price per TB manufacturers charge for extra capacity, I expect ultra platinum quality.
MBCook 4y ago
In 2017 Apple introduced the iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and X. All three still get updates this year. That’s five years of support. They may get updated next year+, we don’t know yet. You know what the iPhone 8 had? 2GB of RAM. Same as Google is calling for now. And people have been through this over and over. Apple does not insert fake delays to make phones feel slower. If you could prove that you could make a mint. They add features, which takes extra CPU. Though not all are on every phone for that exact reason. How many Android phones from 5 years ago got 5 years of updates? How about 2 years?
- gpt5 4y ago
  Apple does throttle your phone when your battery degrades. They do it by default because it helps avoid situations where the phones would shut down completely before the battery empties. There was a class action on this, and now they allow you to toggle this feature off: https://www.itpro.com/mobile/battery-life/356946/how-to-turn-off-battery-throttling-on-iphone https://www.itpro.com/mobile/battery-life/356946/how-to-turn...
  - MBCook 4y ago
    Right. That was a real reason due to hardware issues, though the way they went about it was obviously received negatively (no notification and no option at first). It wasn’t fake delays just to push hardware sales, which is what people have been accusing them of for 10+ years.
    - Gigachad 4y ago
      It must be insane being a manager at these megacorps. Imagine fixing a bug at work and accidentally kicking off a decade of bad press, memes, and legal issues because the fix was not communicated perfectly. I agree they should have explained to the user better, but imagine how many minor behind the scenes fixes they have to fix and can’t possibly bother the user with them all. I can see how these things slipped through.
      - MBCook 4y ago
        What if they told people it was happening from day one? “Apple’s latest update tells people they have to buy new phones!” Apple bashing (really any mega-corp or FAANG) gets so many clicks I’m not sure there was any decent option.
RockingGoodNite 4y ago
It's funny I've been down voted for speaking my mind about observations I've made over years of using my current phone and the trend is true for my past android phones. I've had 3 other android phones. The last one, Nexus 6, I dropped and the gorilla glass cracked really bad, figured it was a loss and got my current LG phone and it has been great except for the suspicious slow downs which cannot be attributed to wear of the storage. I say that as someone who has been a technological person for 5 decades and a paid software engineer for almost 3 decades. The one before that, Nexus 4, the thing was charging on my desk, I looked over and saw it bulging like it was going to explode. The one before that, Nexus One, I still have, had to stop using it when the hard wired paltry amount of system space and increasing OS size made it unusable. Glad they stopped that practice of forcing the OS into a tiny space. I like my LG so it's too bad they got out of or announced they are leaving the phone business. I've traded several thousand of my dollars to Google for their phones since they started making them. I never owned iPhone, have no plans to either.
- aintmeit 4y ago
  Don't let the downvotes interfere with your rockin' good nite. But also please double down on explaining yourself. vroom vroom

kapitanjakc 4y ago

I've had that issue. At first I thought it was because of heavy apps that I used. Teams, WhatsApp and the likes. I removed everything and it is still very slow in opening the browser. I wanted to root it and check if it works but got confused as there are numerous choice available for rooting OS.

MBCook 4y ago
Have you tried a total wipe and reinstall? It’s rarely needed but can make a difference in such circumstances.
astrange 4y ago
If the battery or storage is aged it can slow down apparently unrelated things. They're both consumable components.
rraghur 4y ago
More likely flash degradation than any explicit code to insert delays
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  A normal user had better not see flash degradation. With the massive price per TB manufacturers charge for extra capacity, I expect ultra platinum quality.

MBCook 4y ago

In 2017 Apple introduced the iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and X. All three still get updates this year. That’s five years of support. They may get updated next year+, we don’t know yet. You know what the iPhone 8 had? 2GB of RAM. Same as Google is calling for now. And people have been through this over and over. Apple does not insert fake delays to make phones feel slower. If you could prove that you could make a mint. They add features, which takes extra CPU. Though not all are on every phone for that exact reason. How many Android phones from 5 years ago got 5 years of updates? How about 2 years?

gpt5 4y ago
Apple does throttle your phone when your battery degrades. They do it by default because it helps avoid situations where the phones would shut down completely before the battery empties. There was a class action on this, and now they allow you to toggle this feature off: https://www.itpro.com/mobile/battery-life/356946/how-to-turn-off-battery-throttling-on-iphone https://www.itpro.com/mobile/battery-life/356946/how-to-turn...
- MBCook 4y ago
  Right. That was a real reason due to hardware issues, though the way they went about it was obviously received negatively (no notification and no option at first). It wasn’t fake delays just to push hardware sales, which is what people have been accusing them of for 10+ years.
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    It must be insane being a manager at these megacorps. Imagine fixing a bug at work and accidentally kicking off a decade of bad press, memes, and legal issues because the fix was not communicated perfectly. I agree they should have explained to the user better, but imagine how many minor behind the scenes fixes they have to fix and can’t possibly bother the user with them all. I can see how these things slipped through.
    - MBCook 4y ago
      What if they told people it was happening from day one? “Apple’s latest update tells people they have to buy new phones!” Apple bashing (really any mega-corp or FAANG) gets so many clicks I’m not sure there was any decent option.

RockingGoodNite 4y ago

It's funny I've been down voted for speaking my mind about observations I've made over years of using my current phone and the trend is true for my past android phones. I've had 3 other android phones. The last one, Nexus 6, I dropped and the gorilla glass cracked really bad, figured it was a loss and got my current LG phone and it has been great except for the suspicious slow downs which cannot be attributed to wear of the storage. I say that as someone who has been a technological person for 5 decades and a paid software engineer for almost 3 decades. The one before that, Nexus 4, the thing was charging on my desk, I looked over and saw it bulging like it was going to explode. The one before that, Nexus One, I still have, had to stop using it when the hard wired paltry amount of system space and increasing OS size made it unusable. Glad they stopped that practice of forcing the OS into a tiny space. I like my LG so it's too bad they got out of or announced they are leaving the phone business. I've traded several thousand of my dollars to Google for their phones since they started making them. I never owned iPhone, have no plans to either.

aintmeit 4y ago
Don't let the downvotes interfere with your rockin' good nite. But also please double down on explaining yourself. vroom vroom