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I think this article, and the other "background noise", are evidence that it is a severe disease with lifelong consequences. Maybe the flu is as well! But these

I think this article, and the other "background noise", are evidence that it is a severe disease with lifelong consequences. Maybe the flu is as well! But these measures work for both.

timr 4y ago
This article tells you nothing useful in terms of evaluating your own personal risk. They recruited people with symptoms, in order to see if they could explain the symptoms. It tells you nothing about the risk to any random person of experiencing the same symptoms. For all you know, you could have faced the exact same risk from myriad other viruses every year of your life before 2020; we simply never looked. Regardless, you're going to get Covid. It is inevitable. It isn't going away. You can get it when you're younger and healthier, or you can get it when you're older and sicker. The only truly tragic difference is how many years of your life you might give up trying to hide from it in the meantime.
- trention 4y ago
  >Regardless, you're going to get Covid. It is inevitable. It isn't going away. You can get it when you're younger and healthier, or you can get it when you're older and sicker. You know you're full of sh*t when you still treat covid as a one-time infection when it's perfectly clear that it will reinfect you at best on a biyearly basis.
  - timr 4y ago
    I said nothing about reinfection, but you're right: you're going to get it multiple times in your life, just like any other circulating coronavirus, the risk of which you've completely neglected in every prior year you have been alive. You can't do anything about it. You have a choice: you can lock yourself indoors, keep your face hidden, and live in perpetual anxiety -- in a futile attempt to stave off the inevitable -- based on questionable research. Alternatively, you can accept that life comes with some level of risk. What you can't do, no matter how much you hide and curse at others, is avoid a respiratory virus.
    - trention 4y ago
      The fact that you are going to get reinfected has a significant bearing on your ridiculous implicit claim made here: > You can get it when you're younger and healthier, or you can get it when you're older and sicker. that you are better off getting infected sooner rather than later and that there is only negative value to be had in postponing infection. >What you can't do, no matter how much you hide and curse at others, is avoid a respiratory virus. You may want to keep that sentiment for when a 30+% IFR respiratory virus like MERS causes a pandemic which, given the law of large numbers, will absolutely happen. Then, the attitude "you can do nothing" leads to only one thing - total civilizational collapse. (BTW, measles and rubella are both respiratory viruses that I have avoided and will continue to avoid but thanks for again proving the point that you have no idea what you are talking about.) But looking at your submission history, I don't intend to lose any more time with the definition of covidiotism.
      - nradov 4y ago
        Most of us are able to avoid measles and rubella because the vaccines are highly effective at preventing infection and transmission. By contrast, the COVID-19 vaccines are pretty good at preventing severe symptoms but do little to prevent infection and transmission. Attempting to avoid SARS-CoV-2 is utterly pointless; unless you live like a hermit, you're going to be occasionally exposed no matter what.
        trention 4y ago
        >attempting to avoid SARS-CoV-2 is utterly pointless Maybe you should start by learning about cumulative probability and hence why n/2 infections carry less risk than n infections.
        nradov 4y ago
        Biology can seldom be reduced to such simplistic calculations. Do you have any actual evidence for that claim? Please provide a quantitative estimate of the relative risk reduction for a serious adverse cardiac event under your proposed course of action, and show your work.

I think this article, and the other "background noise", are evidence that it is a severe disease with lifelong consequences. Maybe the flu is as well! But these measures work for both.

timr 4y ago

This article tells you nothing useful in terms of evaluating your own personal risk. They recruited people with symptoms, in order to see if they could explain the symptoms. It tells you nothing about the risk to any random person of experiencing the same symptoms. For all you know, you could have faced the exact same risk from myriad other viruses every year of your life before 2020; we simply never looked. Regardless, you're going to get Covid. It is inevitable. It isn't going away. You can get it when you're younger and healthier, or you can get it when you're older and sicker. The only truly tragic difference is how many years of your life you might give up trying to hide from it in the meantime.

trention 4y ago
>Regardless, you're going to get Covid. It is inevitable. It isn't going away. You can get it when you're younger and healthier, or you can get it when you're older and sicker. You know you're full of sh*t when you still treat covid as a one-time infection when it's perfectly clear that it will reinfect you at best on a biyearly basis.
- timr 4y ago
  I said nothing about reinfection, but you're right: you're going to get it multiple times in your life, just like any other circulating coronavirus, the risk of which you've completely neglected in every prior year you have been alive. You can't do anything about it. You have a choice: you can lock yourself indoors, keep your face hidden, and live in perpetual anxiety -- in a futile attempt to stave off the inevitable -- based on questionable research. Alternatively, you can accept that life comes with some level of risk. What you can't do, no matter how much you hide and curse at others, is avoid a respiratory virus.
  - trention 4y ago
    The fact that you are going to get reinfected has a significant bearing on your ridiculous implicit claim made here: > You can get it when you're younger and healthier, or you can get it when you're older and sicker. that you are better off getting infected sooner rather than later and that there is only negative value to be had in postponing infection. >What you can't do, no matter how much you hide and curse at others, is avoid a respiratory virus. You may want to keep that sentiment for when a 30+% IFR respiratory virus like MERS causes a pandemic which, given the law of large numbers, will absolutely happen. Then, the attitude "you can do nothing" leads to only one thing - total civilizational collapse. (BTW, measles and rubella are both respiratory viruses that I have avoided and will continue to avoid but thanks for again proving the point that you have no idea what you are talking about.) But looking at your submission history, I don't intend to lose any more time with the definition of covidiotism.
    - nradov 4y ago
      Most of us are able to avoid measles and rubella because the vaccines are highly effective at preventing infection and transmission. By contrast, the COVID-19 vaccines are pretty good at preventing severe symptoms but do little to prevent infection and transmission. Attempting to avoid SARS-CoV-2 is utterly pointless; unless you live like a hermit, you're going to be occasionally exposed no matter what.
      - trention 4y ago
        >attempting to avoid SARS-CoV-2 is utterly pointless Maybe you should start by learning about cumulative probability and hence why n/2 infections carry less risk than n infections.
        nradov 4y ago
        Biology can seldom be reduced to such simplistic calculations. Do you have any actual evidence for that claim? Please provide a quantitative estimate of the relative risk reduction for a serious adverse cardiac event under your proposed course of action, and show your work.