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No, it didn't but people who took only one semester of art classes may remain under the delusion that art is about making pretty pictures. People who need illu

No, it didn't but people who took only one semester of art classes may remain under the delusion that art is about making pretty pictures. People who need illustration or graphics with no particular style can meet their needs with this tool but that is far from art. This replaces commercial illustration, not artists.

bsenftner 4y ago
Exactly, this replaces general illustrative commercial art. This is great for illustrations at the head intro of fiction stories. However, fine artists that produce art where the object created is merely the totem for their actual art: intellectual conceptualization of an idea, often concerning the finality of life and the immature behaviors we playout within; that type of Fine Art is completely out of reach of modern AIs. I'm sure there are attempts by AI developers to mimic such art, but that mimicking will be gibberish. It requires a sentient being to create Fine Art, because Fine Art is an 360 degree expression of existence, not some pretty picture.
- shagie 4y ago
  I can see this replacing the clip and misappropriated art in slide presentations that no one is paying for currently with a $20/month service that lets you do "line art angry man in toga at computer" to put into your talk on Kuberentes. It might replace the "nice pic, do you have it at {size} so I can use it as a desktop image" comments on various social media sites. I don't see it replacing an actual photograph as a wall hanging (or a painting) because they are subtly wrong in some ways. The reflection in the lake doesn't match the landscape... that one cloud has its lighting at slightly different angle than the rest.
  - roywiggins 4y ago
    > because they are subtly wrong in some ways Well, they are now. Give it a year and we'll see.
    - Filligree 4y ago
      I find it quite amazing how much commentary gets based on "Yes, this happened in two years. Now let's assume nothing changes hereafter."
    - shagie 4y ago
      Possibly... but I'm skeptical. For the type of photography that I do, these are things that come from an understanding of the world and its implications. You aren't going to see certain types of clouds in certain landscapes - they just don't form there. For example, having a cloud that indicates fast moving wind in a mountain environment in a plains landscape with a glassy smooth pond. It's not that you can't paint that picture... but you'll never be able to capture that scene in camera. If someone was presenting that as a photograph, it would feel wrong to me because of an understanding of the meteorological criteria for the scene. I believe that they will generate images that are impressive. I watch https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbfYPyITQ-7l4upoX8nvctg https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbfYPyITQ-7l4upoX8nvctg and have been impressed with the pace of technology. Yet, I am doubtful that I'll have a generated image at 11x17 that holds up to the same scrutiny that I apply to my own photographs. I am absolutely certain that it will be able to generate images that are completely appropriate for images that you don't look at for more than a minute at a time or are used as complimentary material for other content. All that said, I am not concerned that I will get more or less sales of my photographs with AI generated art competing. The people who are going to pay for a photograph are going to pay for a photograph. Those who aren't - weren't going to in the first place.
Workaccount2 4y ago
This is first generation tech that is dropping jaws compared to just 2 years ago. A career typically requires 40 years of job security.
- idontpost 4y ago
  > A career typically requires 40 years of job security. 40 years ago was 1980. There's a vanishingly small number of fields that have had continuous job security from 1980-2020 (even ignoring Covid). You might as well say that careers are over for everyone, and have been for a while.
  - amelius 4y ago
    Doctors and lawyers are doing great, still.
    - idontpost 4y ago
      If you think lawyers were a secure field over the last 40 years, you're simply ignorant. A tiny percentage of lawyers do really well. The rest struggle under crushing debt and insane working conditions. So you've got one example in the entire economy.

bsenftner 4y ago

Exactly, this replaces general illustrative commercial art. This is great for illustrations at the head intro of fiction stories. However, fine artists that produce art where the object created is merely the totem for their actual art: intellectual conceptualization of an idea, often concerning the finality of life and the immature behaviors we playout within; that type of Fine Art is completely out of reach of modern AIs. I'm sure there are attempts by AI developers to mimic such art, but that mimicking will be gibberish. It requires a sentient being to create Fine Art, because Fine Art is an 360 degree expression of existence, not some pretty picture.

shagie 4y ago
I can see this replacing the clip and misappropriated art in slide presentations that no one is paying for currently with a $20/month service that lets you do "line art angry man in toga at computer" to put into your talk on Kuberentes. It might replace the "nice pic, do you have it at {size} so I can use it as a desktop image" comments on various social media sites. I don't see it replacing an actual photograph as a wall hanging (or a painting) because they are subtly wrong in some ways. The reflection in the lake doesn't match the landscape... that one cloud has its lighting at slightly different angle than the rest.
- roywiggins 4y ago
  > because they are subtly wrong in some ways Well, they are now. Give it a year and we'll see.
  - Filligree 4y ago
    I find it quite amazing how much commentary gets based on "Yes, this happened in two years. Now let's assume nothing changes hereafter."
  - shagie 4y ago
    Possibly... but I'm skeptical. For the type of photography that I do, these are things that come from an understanding of the world and its implications. You aren't going to see certain types of clouds in certain landscapes - they just don't form there. For example, having a cloud that indicates fast moving wind in a mountain environment in a plains landscape with a glassy smooth pond. It's not that you can't paint that picture... but you'll never be able to capture that scene in camera. If someone was presenting that as a photograph, it would feel wrong to me because of an understanding of the meteorological criteria for the scene. I believe that they will generate images that are impressive. I watch https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbfYPyITQ-7l4upoX8nvctg https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbfYPyITQ-7l4upoX8nvctg and have been impressed with the pace of technology. Yet, I am doubtful that I'll have a generated image at 11x17 that holds up to the same scrutiny that I apply to my own photographs. I am absolutely certain that it will be able to generate images that are completely appropriate for images that you don't look at for more than a minute at a time or are used as complimentary material for other content. All that said, I am not concerned that I will get more or less sales of my photographs with AI generated art competing. The people who are going to pay for a photograph are going to pay for a photograph. Those who aren't - weren't going to in the first place.

Workaccount2 4y ago

This is first generation tech that is dropping jaws compared to just 2 years ago. A career typically requires 40 years of job security.

idontpost 4y ago
> A career typically requires 40 years of job security. 40 years ago was 1980. There's a vanishingly small number of fields that have had continuous job security from 1980-2020 (even ignoring Covid). You might as well say that careers are over for everyone, and have been for a while.
- amelius 4y ago
  Doctors and lawyers are doing great, still.
  - idontpost 4y ago
    If you think lawyers were a secure field over the last 40 years, you're simply ignorant. A tiny percentage of lawyers do really well. The rest struggle under crushing debt and insane working conditions. So you've got one example in the entire economy.