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"Depressed? Just get over it". This guy is (edit: in my opinion) an idiot. He's a successful showman but (edit: in my opinion) a moron nonetheless. I've watched

"Depressed? Just get over it". This guy is (edit: in my opinion) an idiot. He's a successful showman but (edit: in my opinion) a moron nonetheless. I've watched a few of his interviews and it always seemed like he's lacking personality - he always tried to copy the behavior of his guests and lacked own viewpoint.

seper8 4y ago
>"Depressed? Just get over it". Looks like someone doesn't actually listen to JRE but parrots some talking head viewpoints instead.
- ilogik 4y ago
  - seper8 4y ago
    And this link proves that by ..?
    - ilogik 4y ago
      It's an episode of a podcast, going though an episode of JRW, and pointing out all the stuff he gets wrong.
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tomcam 4y ago
From the guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. I certainly understand not liking Rogan, but your comments aren't really on point. Idiot? Moron? Lacking personality? "always tried to copy the behavior of his guests and lacked own viewpoint"? These do not appear to be the observations of someone who's actually watched the show.
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- hericium 4y ago
  I appreciate your comment and indeed two of three statements (idiot and moron) lacked opinion wording and were stated as a facts. I have edited my comment in a way that doesn't invalidate yours. But you're not right regarding me not watching "the show". I've seen the interview with Musk in which Musk said "this stuff doesn't work on me" while pretending to inhale smoke from a pot joint. I've seen Dan Aykroyd interview which was basically Dan Aykroyd advertising his skull-bottled vodka. I've seen dr. Rhonda Patrick episode, dr. David Sinclair episode and maybe 10 to 15 more episodes. I'm not ashamed to admit that I went through a very brief "this guy is fucking cool!" phase but after really getting to hear what he's got to say, my opinion of him is that he's a behavioral copycat and a moron.
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PedroBatista 4y ago
Would be possible he lets his guests talk and expose their point of view without the pressure of being immediately “opinion bombarded”? I would argue it’s mostly a podcast, not a CNN/FoxNews interview. But since I only listen occasionally and feel there’s a lot of emotion attached to this subject ( for some reason ) I might be wrong…
sn0w_crash 4y ago
I guess many of us enjoy listening to an idiot/moron talk for 2 hours.
- SQueeeeeL 4y ago
  Is that a problem? Legitimately, we glorify traditional metrics of intelligence, but just because someone might not be able to ace an SAT test doesn't automatically make their perspective invalid or mean they can't be interesting and make art (I feel like Joe Rogan would probably be good on most intelligence metrics though, but in general)
  - threeseed 4y ago
    > doesn't automatically make their perspective invalid It does when they start affecting people's lives in serious ways. For example him pushing ivermectin.
    - SQueeeeeL 4y ago
      It's still a valid perspective, just harmful. Having a large platform/following does not automatically make someone trustworthy. Low key, why do we live in a country where the opinion of an MMA judge/podcaster influences people so much, it's impossible to endlessly validate any claim. We may need to transition to a more authoritarian model of speech in which content produced by an individual should be truthful, or we just endlessly play wac-a-mole on the latest rando who gains a following
      - nradov 4y ago
        What a horrifying comment. You can't seriously believe that we should start censoring speech just because some random podcast guest might have stated some medical misinformation. Do you really want the government deciding whom is allowed to speak? Pretty soon they'll decide to censor someone you agree with, for your own good of course. Don't be naive.
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registeredcorn 4y ago
>he always tried to copy the behavior of his guests and lacked own viewpoint. Have you ever had to make an effort to be overly agreeable with others in order to avoid conflict? I would imagine that a talk show host would make a point of trying to keep things civil in order to keep the "back and fourth" open. If the guest and the host were immediately pissed at each other, it would be a lot more difficult to carry on a conversation.
- hericium 4y ago
  No, not "overly". Everything has limits and I hope I won't ever have to pretend to be someone else for the sake of money. His "show" is made to entertain and to make money. Overly quickly turns into overenthusiastically and fake. He chooses to be a fake while pretending to be Joe Rogan. And Joe Rogan was someone else in every episode I've seen.
  - registeredcorn 4y ago
    https://www.sellingantiques.co.uk/photosnew/dealer_lornabyskou/dealer_lornabyskou_superhighres_1526483671980-2031283495.jpg https://www.sellingantiques.co.uk/photosnew/dealer_lornabysk...
mattwilsonn888 4y ago
This thread is a treasure trove of people who have skimmed content from JRE yet somehow have more insight into the show than the fans they seem to despise.
- stoplying1 4y ago
  Funny, the gutteral emotional reactions seem much stronger from people defending their totally not parasocial streamer relationship! It's so hard respecting people that still fall for Joe's obvious shtick at this point. A child just asking "why?" over and over would be as interesting, and would likely come without the platforming of altright folks and semi constant COVID misinformation. Edit: honestly why did I even post in this thread. I guess I should've skimmed other posters comments before writing some of my replies. Yikes.
  - spookthesunset 4y ago
    > platforming altright folks and semi constant COVID misinformation In other words, he hosts people with viewpoints that some disagree with. And with covid there is like about 6-12 month lag between when something is "misinformation" and it becomes "we always knew this'. Example: The vaccines don't stop transmission. Covid could have been a lab leak. Lockdowns fuck over the working class and kids. Etc, etc, etc... Most of the time "misinformation" is just a derogatory way to frame something one disagrees with.
  - mattwilsonn888 4y ago
    So you come here attacking people for not rolling over and accepting "criticism" being emotional, then instantly regret your fairly baseless and sensational attempt to be inflammatory? You have a problem, you aren't intelligent nor wise - you just know some big words.

seper8 4y ago

>"Depressed? Just get over it". Looks like someone doesn't actually listen to JRE but parrots some talking head viewpoints instead.

ilogik 4y ago
- seper8 4y ago
  And this link proves that by ..?
  - ilogik 4y ago
    It's an episode of a podcast, going though an episode of JRW, and pointing out all the stuff he gets wrong.
- realce 4y ago
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tomcam 4y ago

From the guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. I certainly understand not liking Rogan, but your comments aren't really on point. Idiot? Moron? Lacking personality? "always tried to copy the behavior of his guests and lacked own viewpoint"? These do not appear to be the observations of someone who's actually watched the show.

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hericium 4y ago
I appreciate your comment and indeed two of three statements (idiot and moron) lacked opinion wording and were stated as a facts. I have edited my comment in a way that doesn't invalidate yours. But you're not right regarding me not watching "the show". I've seen the interview with Musk in which Musk said "this stuff doesn't work on me" while pretending to inhale smoke from a pot joint. I've seen Dan Aykroyd interview which was basically Dan Aykroyd advertising his skull-bottled vodka. I've seen dr. Rhonda Patrick episode, dr. David Sinclair episode and maybe 10 to 15 more episodes. I'm not ashamed to admit that I went through a very brief "this guy is fucking cool!" phase but after really getting to hear what he's got to say, my opinion of him is that he's a behavioral copycat and a moron.
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PedroBatista 4y ago

Would be possible he lets his guests talk and expose their point of view without the pressure of being immediately “opinion bombarded”? I would argue it’s mostly a podcast, not a CNN/FoxNews interview. But since I only listen occasionally and feel there’s a lot of emotion attached to this subject ( for some reason ) I might be wrong…

sn0w_crash 4y ago

I guess many of us enjoy listening to an idiot/moron talk for 2 hours.

SQueeeeeL 4y ago
Is that a problem? Legitimately, we glorify traditional metrics of intelligence, but just because someone might not be able to ace an SAT test doesn't automatically make their perspective invalid or mean they can't be interesting and make art (I feel like Joe Rogan would probably be good on most intelligence metrics though, but in general)
- threeseed 4y ago
  > doesn't automatically make their perspective invalid It does when they start affecting people's lives in serious ways. For example him pushing ivermectin.
  - SQueeeeeL 4y ago
    It's still a valid perspective, just harmful. Having a large platform/following does not automatically make someone trustworthy. Low key, why do we live in a country where the opinion of an MMA judge/podcaster influences people so much, it's impossible to endlessly validate any claim. We may need to transition to a more authoritarian model of speech in which content produced by an individual should be truthful, or we just endlessly play wac-a-mole on the latest rando who gains a following
    - nradov 4y ago
      What a horrifying comment. You can't seriously believe that we should start censoring speech just because some random podcast guest might have stated some medical misinformation. Do you really want the government deciding whom is allowed to speak? Pretty soon they'll decide to censor someone you agree with, for your own good of course. Don't be naive.
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registeredcorn 4y ago

>he always tried to copy the behavior of his guests and lacked own viewpoint. Have you ever had to make an effort to be overly agreeable with others in order to avoid conflict? I would imagine that a talk show host would make a point of trying to keep things civil in order to keep the "back and fourth" open. If the guest and the host were immediately pissed at each other, it would be a lot more difficult to carry on a conversation.

hericium 4y ago
No, not "overly". Everything has limits and I hope I won't ever have to pretend to be someone else for the sake of money. His "show" is made to entertain and to make money. Overly quickly turns into overenthusiastically and fake. He chooses to be a fake while pretending to be Joe Rogan. And Joe Rogan was someone else in every episode I've seen.
- registeredcorn 4y ago
  https://www.sellingantiques.co.uk/photosnew/dealer_lornabyskou/dealer_lornabyskou_superhighres_1526483671980-2031283495.jpg https://www.sellingantiques.co.uk/photosnew/dealer_lornabysk...

mattwilsonn888 4y ago

This thread is a treasure trove of people who have skimmed content from JRE yet somehow have more insight into the show than the fans they seem to despise.

stoplying1 4y ago
Funny, the gutteral emotional reactions seem much stronger from people defending their totally not parasocial streamer relationship! It's so hard respecting people that still fall for Joe's obvious shtick at this point. A child just asking "why?" over and over would be as interesting, and would likely come without the platforming of altright folks and semi constant COVID misinformation. Edit: honestly why did I even post in this thread. I guess I should've skimmed other posters comments before writing some of my replies. Yikes.
- spookthesunset 4y ago
  > platforming altright folks and semi constant COVID misinformation In other words, he hosts people with viewpoints that some disagree with. And with covid there is like about 6-12 month lag between when something is "misinformation" and it becomes "we always knew this'. Example: The vaccines don't stop transmission. Covid could have been a lab leak. Lockdowns fuck over the working class and kids. Etc, etc, etc... Most of the time "misinformation" is just a derogatory way to frame something one disagrees with.
- mattwilsonn888 4y ago
  So you come here attacking people for not rolling over and accepting "criticism" being emotional, then instantly regret your fairly baseless and sensational attempt to be inflammatory? You have a problem, you aren't intelligent nor wise - you just know some big words.