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> The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to b

> The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. Most people don’t. Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like: - 1Blocker - super full featured, including custom script and css rules. business model is paid software, not ‘acceptable ads’ paying them for placement or third parties paying for your data - AdGuard Pro - Similar to 1Blocker, less custom config friendly - https://nextdns.io/ https://nextdns.io/ - pihole type blocker with unlimited configurations, custom rules, and analytics, native hooks for devices - https://adguard-dns.io/ https://adguard-dns.io/ - similar DNS[1] service to nextdns.io with ability to upload your own rules based configurations - Firefox Focus if using that ecosystem - Brave if using that ecosystem - iCab Mobile if wanting a super configurable browser with filter rules and longest history as indie browser for iOS Folks also use ancillary quieters such as: - Hiya - call / sms blocking - Hushed - throwaway numbers for spam SMS - - - 1. Note that the AdGuard public DNS server including custom DNS filtering rules has just (26 August 2022) gone open source: https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-dns-2-0-goes-open-source.html https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-dns-2-0-goes-open-source...

deelowe 4y ago
Most people do this? I seriously doubt it.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  Within the context of people who know what uBlock origin is, given that was the original comparison, 'most' sounds accurate.
  - remram 4y ago
    That was not the context. 4 posts up: "I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads"
    - Supermancho 4y ago
      It would be great if threaded conversation was normalized to anchoring on the original context. Using every reply as a partially-yours-partially-new starting point makes the conversations treacherously convoluted until many points are concurrently true; only if you focus on the right parts.
    - adamwk 4y ago
      Read the first sentence
      - austhrow743 4y ago
        First sentence just explains why the commenter is experiencing both adblocked vs not adblocked web.
raxxorraxor 4y ago
Are you sure about this? Apple isn't really a protégé of heavy customization, especially anything relating to iOS.
EricE 4y ago
Yup - 1Blocker is amazing and a mandatory install on an iOS device I use or provision.
fencepost 4y ago
Duck Duck Go?
d0gsg0w00f 4y ago
I just mentally ignore ads unless they're in my way, then I just hit the back button and read something else.
- always2slow 4y ago
  Well, you think you ignore them but they still influence you.
pbronez 4y ago
1Blocker mostly operates by pumping rules into Safari's rules engine, but it also has an App Firewall feature that uses VPN profiles. I've had some compatibility problems with that, but mostly it just blocks 10,000s of requests I didn't want my device to make in the first place.
black_puppydog 4y ago
> business model is paid software, not ‘acceptable ads’ paying them for placement or third parties paying for your data This reads like a hint at AdBlock Plus, not uBlock. Or did I miss some controversy there?
dvfjsdhgfv 4y ago
> Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like: You probably meant "Most people I know".
kahnclusions 4y ago
> Most people don’t. Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like: … “Most people” don’t have a clue what any of those things are. The only non-tech people I know who have any of what you mentioned only have it because I installed it for them.
- Terretta 4y ago
  You quoted but didn’t reply to the rest of the owl: > Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use OP cited U-Block Origin and Firefox, so I’m replying to them as a persona, the sort of person that would use something, with things that can help them. The broader point is to share a clue.
ummonk 4y ago
Your comment applies to people who would use Firefox+uBlock if they were ok Android (e.g. I use 1Blocker). GP’s comment was asking about normal people who browse the internet without adblockers on any device.
arcticbull 4y ago
> Most people don’t. Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like... Citation needed.
alexb_ 4y ago
95% of users have no idea what any of this is.
- onion2k 4y ago
  Developer wages would crash through the floor and all the way down to the centre of the Earth if ad blockers really took off without users also accepting micropayments or subscriptions for web services at the same time. Maybe we should be a little bit glad that the main thing keeping massive amounts of money in tech is accepted by users. The key thing that most people in tech don't appear to grok very easily is that the overwhelming majority of web services like search engines, social media, ad-driven news websites, etc are all things that users place practically zero value on. People accept ads because they're a way of paying for things without really thinking about it. If you start asking users for actual money they suddenly decide that all these services represent no value and they'll live without them. The end of online advertising is an existential threat for a massive part of the tech industry. If that cash cow ends there would be a huge reduction in money for devs, and a massive flood of devs on to the market. Economics 101 should tell you how bad that would be for most HN readers.
  - gowld 4y ago
    Not necessarity. The worst ads are the lowest paying, which is why they are spammed so much in the lowest-quality places. Good ads make their money and don't need 100x the impression count.
  - Chinjut 4y ago
    If it's true that users place zero value on most of what the tech industry churns out, then maybe most of what the tech industry churns out really isn't that valuable.
  - lazyier 4y ago
    Advertising is a type of propaganda. One of a myriad of different forms of propaganda. One leads to the other easily. For example taking advertising money for television commercials or magazine adds leads to "Native Ads". Native ads are sort of like product placement except that it's pretending to be a news story or whatever. Like when people on CNBC or CNN start talking about Taco Bell menu items or new type of drug that might fight cholesterol. That's paid-for propaganda that is pretending to be television news. Pretty soon you have a entire industry based on not telling the truth about drugs or food or other products they buy because that will piss off their advertisers. This is the basis of the modern web. It's not a good thing even though it makes a lot of people a lot of money.
jrm4 4y ago
Whoa. Customized adblocking DNS servers? This is definitely striking me as one of those "why didn't I think of that" and "why don't we already have a lot of this?" Any ideas? Seems like you could go wild with this and do something like "Tor"ify, or "torrentify" or dare I say "blockchain" it? Someone can probably school me on why this is harder than it sounds.
- Bedon292 4y ago
  AdGuard Home is another option along with the PiHole another commented mentioned. I have that running at home forcing all port 53 traffic to it via the firewall. So ads are blocked on all devices on the network. So easy I sometimes forget I have it running and then I browse on mobile away from home and get bombarded with ads and am reminded why I do it. They do also have their own paid DNS service, but I haven't attempted to use it. Might be a way to deal with mobile better.
  - chrisfinazzo 4y ago
    For this reason alone, I am seriously tempted by PiHole's companion, PiVPN. Browsing without this protection just seems crazy to me.
    - hendersoon 4y ago
      I keep my phone VPN'd to my home network via wireguard 100% of the time, pointing at my AdGuard Home hosts for DNS. This works great, the beauty of wireguard is it reconnects in under a second so it's never annoying. You do need a reasonable upload speed to do this, though. Otherwise I guess you could use an "always free" VM at Oracle or something.
      - Bedon292 4y ago
        Yeah, definitely thinking about doing something similar. Was wondering about something like Zero Tier as well. I just don't use my phone all that much away from home, so it hasn't been up on the priority list.

deelowe 4y ago

Most people do this? I seriously doubt it.

rootusrootus 4y ago
Within the context of people who know what uBlock origin is, given that was the original comparison, 'most' sounds accurate.
- remram 4y ago
  That was not the context. 4 posts up: "I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads"
  - Supermancho 4y ago
    It would be great if threaded conversation was normalized to anchoring on the original context. Using every reply as a partially-yours-partially-new starting point makes the conversations treacherously convoluted until many points are concurrently true; only if you focus on the right parts.
  - adamwk 4y ago
    Read the first sentence
    - austhrow743 4y ago
      First sentence just explains why the commenter is experiencing both adblocked vs not adblocked web.

raxxorraxor 4y ago

Are you sure about this? Apple isn't really a protégé of heavy customization, especially anything relating to iOS.

EricE 4y ago

Yup - 1Blocker is amazing and a mandatory install on an iOS device I use or provision.

fencepost 4y ago

Duck Duck Go?

d0gsg0w00f 4y ago

I just mentally ignore ads unless they're in my way, then I just hit the back button and read something else.

always2slow 4y ago
Well, you think you ignore them but they still influence you.

pbronez 4y ago

1Blocker mostly operates by pumping rules into Safari's rules engine, but it also has an App Firewall feature that uses VPN profiles. I've had some compatibility problems with that, but mostly it just blocks 10,000s of requests I didn't want my device to make in the first place.

black_puppydog 4y ago

> business model is paid software, not ‘acceptable ads’ paying them for placement or third parties paying for your data This reads like a hint at AdBlock Plus, not uBlock. Or did I miss some controversy there?

dvfjsdhgfv 4y ago

> Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like: You probably meant "Most people I know".

kahnclusions 4y ago

> Most people don’t. Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like: … “Most people” don’t have a clue what any of those things are. The only non-tech people I know who have any of what you mentioned only have it because I installed it for them.

Terretta 4y ago
You quoted but didn’t reply to the rest of the owl: > Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use OP cited U-Block Origin and Firefox, so I’m replying to them as a persona, the sort of person that would use something, with things that can help them. The broader point is to share a clue.

ummonk 4y ago

Your comment applies to people who would use Firefox+uBlock if they were ok Android (e.g. I use 1Blocker). GP’s comment was asking about normal people who browse the internet without adblockers on any device.

arcticbull 4y ago

> Most people don’t. Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like... Citation needed.

alexb_ 4y ago

95% of users have no idea what any of this is.

onion2k 4y ago
Developer wages would crash through the floor and all the way down to the centre of the Earth if ad blockers really took off without users also accepting micropayments or subscriptions for web services at the same time. Maybe we should be a little bit glad that the main thing keeping massive amounts of money in tech is accepted by users. The key thing that most people in tech don't appear to grok very easily is that the overwhelming majority of web services like search engines, social media, ad-driven news websites, etc are all things that users place practically zero value on. People accept ads because they're a way of paying for things without really thinking about it. If you start asking users for actual money they suddenly decide that all these services represent no value and they'll live without them. The end of online advertising is an existential threat for a massive part of the tech industry. If that cash cow ends there would be a huge reduction in money for devs, and a massive flood of devs on to the market. Economics 101 should tell you how bad that would be for most HN readers.
- gowld 4y ago
  Not necessarity. The worst ads are the lowest paying, which is why they are spammed so much in the lowest-quality places. Good ads make their money and don't need 100x the impression count.
- Chinjut 4y ago
  If it's true that users place zero value on most of what the tech industry churns out, then maybe most of what the tech industry churns out really isn't that valuable.
- lazyier 4y ago
  Advertising is a type of propaganda. One of a myriad of different forms of propaganda. One leads to the other easily. For example taking advertising money for television commercials or magazine adds leads to "Native Ads". Native ads are sort of like product placement except that it's pretending to be a news story or whatever. Like when people on CNBC or CNN start talking about Taco Bell menu items or new type of drug that might fight cholesterol. That's paid-for propaganda that is pretending to be television news. Pretty soon you have a entire industry based on not telling the truth about drugs or food or other products they buy because that will piss off their advertisers. This is the basis of the modern web. It's not a good thing even though it makes a lot of people a lot of money.

jrm4 4y ago

Whoa. Customized adblocking DNS servers? This is definitely striking me as one of those "why didn't I think of that" and "why don't we already have a lot of this?" Any ideas? Seems like you could go wild with this and do something like "Tor"ify, or "torrentify" or dare I say "blockchain" it? Someone can probably school me on why this is harder than it sounds.

Bedon292 4y ago
AdGuard Home is another option along with the PiHole another commented mentioned. I have that running at home forcing all port 53 traffic to it via the firewall. So ads are blocked on all devices on the network. So easy I sometimes forget I have it running and then I browse on mobile away from home and get bombarded with ads and am reminded why I do it. They do also have their own paid DNS service, but I haven't attempted to use it. Might be a way to deal with mobile better.
- chrisfinazzo 4y ago
  For this reason alone, I am seriously tempted by PiHole's companion, PiVPN. Browsing without this protection just seems crazy to me.
  - hendersoon 4y ago
    I keep my phone VPN'd to my home network via wireguard 100% of the time, pointing at my AdGuard Home hosts for DNS. This works great, the beauty of wireguard is it reconnects in under a second so it's never annoying. You do need a reasonable upload speed to do this, though. Otherwise I guess you could use an "always free" VM at Oracle or something.
    - Bedon292 4y ago
      Yeah, definitely thinking about doing something similar. Was wondering about something like Zero Tier as well. I just don't use my phone all that much away from home, so it hasn't been up on the priority list.