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I mean, where are we gonna go? Microsoft Teams? Damn thing is terrible. I guess Discord can be a option.

by major505 4y ago

smabie 4y ago
Telegram is pretty good
hcurtiss 4y ago
Maybe our needs aren't terribly great, but Teams works pretty well in our enterprise. ~3000 users.
- major505 4y ago
  I work for 4 different companies. Each one have Teams. I can't even put the 4 accounts in the desktop app. I can do in the mobile, but not in the desktop. I had to install containers in firefox, and open 4 tabs to be able to use the 4 accounts at the same time. And of course, because Im using firefox, I can't use the camera in video calls because microsoft allows only chromium browsers to do so. And the linux client is bug as hell.
- Aeolun 4y ago
  If teams works great for you I don’t think I want to work there. Some idiot higher up thought it was a great idea to switch from Slack to Teams, presumably because they have a vendetta against it, and our communication experience and effectiveness (especially cross-border) absolutely crumpled. My biggest problem with Teams is the same as Jira. It gives you so much rope to hang yourself with. Everybody and their mother wants to create a whole Team for their pet project, and then invites the whole organisation, because there is no way to discover existing teams.
  - icelancer 4y ago
    MS Teams is garbage. When I did some consulting for Microsoft recently I was added to a Slack channel. Even the engineers at Microsoft I work with don't use it. One developer at my company uses Teams for video meetings instead of our corporate Zoom account. I don't know why. So like 5-10% of the meetings I go to I have to suffer through Teams' inferior audio and interactive experience.
kirbyfan64sos 4y ago
...Zulip, the author of this blog post?
bee_rider 4y ago
A new one will pop up. It is the chat client circle of life. An old chat client has to do something unpopular to obtain some return on investment. Users look for a new solution. They find one that is still in the "basically mature but trying to grow marketshare by using investor money to provide services and features for free." It works well while that investor money holds out/as long as they can get more ("look at our user growth!"). Eventually investors get tired of paying for things, look for an ROI, and they have to do something unpopular... Hopefully the "gamer" branding will keep Discord in their niche for a little longer. It will be a shame when we all have to transfer our gaming groups to something different.
imperialdrive 4y ago
Teams is a mess, but it's a Microsoft supported mess that integrates with the rest of their mess. Granted I run version 1.5.00.23452 as of today which is even more messy than public.
acidburnNSA 4y ago
Good time for NetMeeting to make a return.
vel0city 4y ago
A cheap VPS could easily host your own Zulip or Mattermost server. Then you can be in charge of your own data.
thallium205 4y ago
Google Workspace Chat! jk
- major505 4y ago
  I'm using google workspace in my personal projects and when I'm the one sending invites to reunions. Works from the browser, is lightweight.

I mean, where are we gonna go? Microsoft Teams? Damn thing is terrible. I guess Discord can be a option.

smabie 4y ago

Telegram is pretty good

hcurtiss 4y ago

Maybe our needs aren't terribly great, but Teams works pretty well in our enterprise. ~3000 users.

major505 4y ago
I work for 4 different companies. Each one have Teams. I can't even put the 4 accounts in the desktop app. I can do in the mobile, but not in the desktop. I had to install containers in firefox, and open 4 tabs to be able to use the 4 accounts at the same time. And of course, because Im using firefox, I can't use the camera in video calls because microsoft allows only chromium browsers to do so. And the linux client is bug as hell.
Aeolun 4y ago
If teams works great for you I don’t think I want to work there. Some idiot higher up thought it was a great idea to switch from Slack to Teams, presumably because they have a vendetta against it, and our communication experience and effectiveness (especially cross-border) absolutely crumpled. My biggest problem with Teams is the same as Jira. It gives you so much rope to hang yourself with. Everybody and their mother wants to create a whole Team for their pet project, and then invites the whole organisation, because there is no way to discover existing teams.
- icelancer 4y ago
  MS Teams is garbage. When I did some consulting for Microsoft recently I was added to a Slack channel. Even the engineers at Microsoft I work with don't use it. One developer at my company uses Teams for video meetings instead of our corporate Zoom account. I don't know why. So like 5-10% of the meetings I go to I have to suffer through Teams' inferior audio and interactive experience.

kirbyfan64sos 4y ago

...Zulip, the author of this blog post?

bee_rider 4y ago

A new one will pop up. It is the chat client circle of life. An old chat client has to do something unpopular to obtain some return on investment. Users look for a new solution. They find one that is still in the "basically mature but trying to grow marketshare by using investor money to provide services and features for free." It works well while that investor money holds out/as long as they can get more ("look at our user growth!"). Eventually investors get tired of paying for things, look for an ROI, and they have to do something unpopular... Hopefully the "gamer" branding will keep Discord in their niche for a little longer. It will be a shame when we all have to transfer our gaming groups to something different.

imperialdrive 4y ago

Teams is a mess, but it's a Microsoft supported mess that integrates with the rest of their mess. Granted I run version 1.5.00.23452 as of today which is even more messy than public.

acidburnNSA 4y ago

Good time for NetMeeting to make a return.

vel0city 4y ago

A cheap VPS could easily host your own Zulip or Mattermost server. Then you can be in charge of your own data.

thallium205 4y ago

Google Workspace Chat! jk

major505 4y ago
I'm using google workspace in my personal projects and when I'm the one sending invites to reunions. Works from the browser, is lightweight.