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Pigeon – Send Messages by Carrier Pigeon

50 points by kretaceous 4y ago

freeCandy 4y ago
IP over Avian Carriers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
qvrjuec 4y ago
This just seems like a silly hoax... Carrier pigeons don't go to arbitrary destinations, they're capable of going to 2 places that they've already been familiarized with, maximum.
- pigtailgirl 4y ago
  -- https://www.marketplace.org/2015/09/30/mail-wing-and-prayer/ https://www.marketplace.org/2015/09/30/mail-wing-and-prayer/ - link from their twitter that is mostly weird tweets about trying to get into YC --
  - timr 4y ago
    pigeons don't tweet.
    - mxuribe 4y ago
      Yes, and in fact, pigeons coo! See: https://pigeonpedia.com/what-sound-does-a-pigeon-make/ https://pigeonpedia.com/what-sound-does-a-pigeon-make/ Side-note: When i looked up what sound pigeons make, i was pleasantly surprised to learn that there exists a Pigeonpedia! :-)
      - ksaj 4y ago
        Good find. I have a pet pigeon. This looks like a good resource.
- divbzero 4y ago
  Perhaps they can pivot to avian delivery of one-time passwords — turn the inability to access arbitrary destinations from a bug to a feature.
- tombert 4y ago
  I was about to write exactly this; I thought that the way messenger pigeon delivery worked basically boiled down to "pigeons are obscenely good at finding their way back 'home' from an arbitrary distance." I didn't think you could just tell them a latitude and longitude or address and have them go there.
  - earleybird 4y ago
    However topology may be restricted. "Connection oriented service is available in some cities, usually based upon a central hub topology."[0] [0] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1149 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1149
  - pram 4y ago
    They can, but you need to speak pigeon.
    - nephanth 4y ago
      Or embed a microchip in their brains
- andrewjmyers 4y ago
  Pigeons are smarter than you realize.
  - poopsmithe 4y ago
    Go on
- UncleEntity 4y ago
  Actually, pigeons go multiple places each day and keep a schedule. I used to have this neighbor who would feed a bunch of wild pigeons and they would be there all lined up on the roof over his door waiting for him to get home from work. After he moved they quit coming around, probably because these other neighbors were feeding about a dozen feral cats at the same time (who all mysteriously disappeared). So, yeah, train the pigeons well enough and they can set up delivery routes.
  - ksaj 4y ago
    This is true. I have a pet pigeon, and you can pretty much set your watch by some of his behaviours.
- c3534l 4y ago
  I suppose you could set up a network of pigeons. After all, an ethernet cable merely connects two points. Maybe you could train additional pigeons to route the messages somehow.
agiacalone 4y ago
This reminds me of RFC-2549 in all the best ways. https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549
xd1936 4y ago
Seems to be getting a hug of death. Signup form is just sitting for a bit then spitting out 504 errors. Edit: Finally went through
spywaregorilla 4y ago
Clever birds just salivating at the potential for seed funds
sedatk 4y ago
"Pigeon is completely immune to cyber interception, and all messages are deleted from memory once sent." So, not completely immune to cyber interception. :)
ketanmaheshwari 4y ago
This seems fake but what if pigeons are replaced by drones -- then it should work.
- mxuribe 4y ago
  Like drones which are shaped like pigeons? Like pidrones?
  - mrelectric 4y ago
    So pigeons.
    - mxuribe 4y ago
      or, pigeonbots? :-)
th3o6a1d 4y ago
Hoax — we all know birds aren’t real.
- gremlinsinc 4y ago
  ACtually, I'd say this is PROOF... if pigeons can be programmed they must be drones..
elwell 4y ago
> Pigeon is completely immune to cyber interception Have you considered drone attackers?
- stinos 4y ago
  Or just people on the ground rattling a can of seeds. Or with guns. Etc.
  - mxuribe 4y ago
    With all due respect, and at the risk of splitting hairs, i would think that "rattling a can of seeds" is more like social engineering, right? ;-)
    - elwell 4y ago
      Unless the can is rattled by a cyborg
  - hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
    birds of prey are basically packet loss and pidgins are a UDP packet stream too
DavidD 4y ago
This is clearly a joke website but I think we could make this happen with gps neural link to pigeon translator. China will probably beat us to it http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2049569,00.html http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2049569,00...
coding123 4y ago
After they burn through series A and have upset investors, expect a drone delivering a dead pigeon with a message tied to its foot and a statement about pivoting.
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50 points by kretaceous 4y ago

IP over Avian Carriers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers

qvrjuec 4y ago

This just seems like a silly hoax... Carrier pigeons don't go to arbitrary destinations, they're capable of going to 2 places that they've already been familiarized with, maximum.

pigtailgirl 4y ago
-- https://www.marketplace.org/2015/09/30/mail-wing-and-prayer/ https://www.marketplace.org/2015/09/30/mail-wing-and-prayer/ - link from their twitter that is mostly weird tweets about trying to get into YC --
- timr 4y ago
  pigeons don't tweet.
  - mxuribe 4y ago
    Yes, and in fact, pigeons coo! See: https://pigeonpedia.com/what-sound-does-a-pigeon-make/ https://pigeonpedia.com/what-sound-does-a-pigeon-make/ Side-note: When i looked up what sound pigeons make, i was pleasantly surprised to learn that there exists a Pigeonpedia! :-)
    - ksaj 4y ago
      Good find. I have a pet pigeon. This looks like a good resource.
divbzero 4y ago
Perhaps they can pivot to avian delivery of one-time passwords — turn the inability to access arbitrary destinations from a bug to a feature.
tombert 4y ago
I was about to write exactly this; I thought that the way messenger pigeon delivery worked basically boiled down to "pigeons are obscenely good at finding their way back 'home' from an arbitrary distance." I didn't think you could just tell them a latitude and longitude or address and have them go there.
- earleybird 4y ago
  However topology may be restricted. "Connection oriented service is available in some cities, usually based upon a central hub topology."[0] [0] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1149 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1149
- pram 4y ago
  They can, but you need to speak pigeon.
  - nephanth 4y ago
    Or embed a microchip in their brains
andrewjmyers 4y ago
Pigeons are smarter than you realize.
- poopsmithe 4y ago
  Go on
UncleEntity 4y ago
Actually, pigeons go multiple places each day and keep a schedule. I used to have this neighbor who would feed a bunch of wild pigeons and they would be there all lined up on the roof over his door waiting for him to get home from work. After he moved they quit coming around, probably because these other neighbors were feeding about a dozen feral cats at the same time (who all mysteriously disappeared). So, yeah, train the pigeons well enough and they can set up delivery routes.
- ksaj 4y ago
  This is true. I have a pet pigeon, and you can pretty much set your watch by some of his behaviours.
c3534l 4y ago
I suppose you could set up a network of pigeons. After all, an ethernet cable merely connects two points. Maybe you could train additional pigeons to route the messages somehow.

agiacalone 4y ago

This reminds me of RFC-2549 in all the best ways. https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549

xd1936 4y ago

Seems to be getting a hug of death. Signup form is just sitting for a bit then spitting out 504 errors. Edit: Finally went through

spywaregorilla 4y ago

Clever birds just salivating at the potential for seed funds

sedatk 4y ago

"Pigeon is completely immune to cyber interception, and all messages are deleted from memory once sent." So, not completely immune to cyber interception. :)

ketanmaheshwari 4y ago

This seems fake but what if pigeons are replaced by drones -- then it should work.

mxuribe 4y ago
Like drones which are shaped like pigeons? Like pidrones?
- mrelectric 4y ago
  So pigeons.
  - mxuribe 4y ago
    or, pigeonbots? :-)

th3o6a1d 4y ago

Hoax — we all know birds aren’t real.

gremlinsinc 4y ago
ACtually, I'd say this is PROOF... if pigeons can be programmed they must be drones..

elwell 4y ago

> Pigeon is completely immune to cyber interception Have you considered drone attackers?

stinos 4y ago
Or just people on the ground rattling a can of seeds. Or with guns. Etc.
- mxuribe 4y ago
  With all due respect, and at the risk of splitting hairs, i would think that "rattling a can of seeds" is more like social engineering, right? ;-)
  - elwell 4y ago
    Unless the can is rattled by a cyborg
- hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
  birds of prey are basically packet loss and pidgins are a UDP packet stream too

DavidD 4y ago

This is clearly a joke website but I think we could make this happen with gps neural link to pigeon translator. China will probably beat us to it http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2049569,00.html http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2049569,00...

coding123 4y ago

After they burn through series A and have upset investors, expect a drone delivering a dead pigeon with a message tied to its foot and a statement about pivoting.

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