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discordo: Lightweight, secure, and feature-rich Discord terminal client

101 points by ducktective 4y ago

lbrito 4y ago
What do you disagree with? EDIT: wow, people really hate jokes. No fun allowed!
smoldesu 4y ago
Super cool to see this underway, I've been waiting for a cordless replacement for a while now!
hprotagonist 4y ago
will you get banned for using it like you will for every other alt client? Automated user accounts or "self-bots" are against Discord's Terms of Service. I am not responsible for any loss caused by using "self-bots" or Discordo. hmm. seems like no.
- toastercat 4y ago
  You don't get banned for using Ripcord since it uses the same APIs as the web client.
  - fouric 4y ago
    What prevents Discord from doing a synchronized change of their web client and server APIs and using accesses to the old API to detect Ripcord users, then banning them?
    - lima 4y ago
      Nothing whatsoever.
    - toastercat 4y ago
      Nothing, but in doing so, they'll likely ban non-Ripcord uses who are using outdated clients as well, followed by a bunch of support tickets by confused users.
  - benbenolson 4y ago
    Yeah, this is what I use, and I've not been banned or anything. I have been locked out of my account, though. There was a week during which I got locked out, and had to re-authenticate with 2FA to get into my account, once a day. However, they eventually stopped doing that after enough support tickets rolled in, and Ripcord has been rippin' along ever since.
  - baal80spam 4y ago
    I'm using Ripcord for over 3 years now and love it.
  - euclaise 4y ago
    It has happened before https://annaclemens.io/discord https://annaclemens.io/discord
    - toastercat 4y ago
      Yes, I remember when this happened. Everyone who got banned had their accounts unbanned (I was not banned however, and I've used Ripcord daily since 2018). You were also just as likely to have gotten banned if you used an outdated Android client.
    - stepupmakeup 4y ago
      If they're willing to lie about using a third party client (which is what they did to initially reach front page here many moons ago), I'd wager they were actually attempting to automate their actions instead of "BANNED after manually pressing 6 buttons".
- Operyl 4y ago
  Yes, you likely will. They have heuristics that will snuff out custom clients, and it's frequent to see people get nabbed by this. It's unfortunate, because from an abuse perspective I understand why (they have issues with spam from user accounts joining guilds and spamming users with "Free Nitro" (premium membership for Discord)).
  - scohesc 4y ago
    That's the really frustrating part about this - I understand they want to keep their walled ecosystem/garden/whatever for whatever reasons they want. I just wish I could customize discord's GUI so: -The GUI have so less empty space -Have a "compact" version where it just shows the users in the channel and who's speaking, and compact view of a chat channel. The default window is just an absolute PAIN, it doesn't go smaller than a certain size and it just has so much irrelevant information not pertinent to the voice/video call I'm in or who I'm chatting with. Maybe I'm the boomer longing for individual/group chats a la MSN messenger 20 years ago. :O
    - Operyl 4y ago
      > Maybe I'm the boomer longing for individual/group chats a la MSN messenger 20 years ago. :O I know, right? The thing is, the vast majority of the generation using this don't have these qualms, it works for them. This must be how it felt like when we stopped used corded phones, haha. Or hand written stuff to type writers..
    - est31 4y ago
      FTR there is a compact setting for discord. I use it together with 80% zoom so that it has a "normal" font size. Turns it into an actually usable product :).
    - Firmwarrior 4y ago
      I think the really frustrating part is that tons of knowledge and discourse is getting blackholed into Discord's walled dumpster where it's not searchable and likely to disappear forever within a few years
    - 4y ago
- madars 4y ago
  Official Twitter account: >All 3rd party apps or client modifiers are against our ToS, and the use of them can result in your account being disabled. I don't recommend using them. https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248 https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248 Thus it looks like in practice you can't have a client that has local chat history, local search, or just better information density on the screen, and simultaneously hope to not have your account nuked.
  - lifthrasiir 4y ago
    Note that this is a slightly different way to phrase the actual ToS [1]: You may not copy, modify, create derivative works based upon, distribute, sell, lease, or sublicense any of our software or services. You also may not reverse engineer or decompile our software or services, attempt to do so, or assist anyone in doing so, unless you have our written consent or applicable law permits it. In the other words, they want to disallow derivative works as long as law permits. There are two possible workarounds: 1. If your software doesn't actually depend on Discord clients and servers at all, for example AutoHotKey macros, you would be probably fine as they wouldn't be derivative works. Legal 3rd-party clients may be created with this way (I haven't seen any such attempts though); create a virtual desktop where the official client runs and reconstruct an alternative interface from screen captures, in principle. 2. They can only do things allowed by the law. Reverse engineering in particular is allowed in many jurisdictions when it's necessary to operate with other programs or devices, and a virtual desktop mentioned in 1 may qualify for this (but: IANAL). If a broader allowance is desired though, the law has to be changed. [1] https://discord.com/terms https://discord.com/terms
    - madars 4y ago
      They also have: >We reserve the right to block, remove, and/or permanently delete your content for any reason, including breach of these terms, our Community Guidelines, our other policies, or any applicable law or regulation.
      - lifthrasiir 4y ago
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agluszak 4y ago
Discord and other biggest communication platforms should be legally required to provide a fully featured API. Forbidding users from writing and using 3rd party clients is outrageous.
- edfletcher_t137 4y ago
  Regardless of what you feel should be true, the reality is that Discord considers using software like this "self-botting" and will ban your account for it. The disclaimer to this effect is buried at the very bottom of the README, seemingly on purpose.
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    Ideally there should be no way for them to even know we're running custom clients.
- tptacek 4y ago
  Why? What else should I be able to demand from other people's products, simply by dint of their products fitting a particular description?
  - HidyBush 4y ago
    Discord clients can't magically implement features that the Discord API doesn't have. The only thing they can do is personalize the experience locally, maybe by changing the interface or implementing more comfortable defaults and shortcuts. This is not a case of a Discord client offering Nitro (i.e. paid) features for free, to get the paid features you have to authenticate yourself through the API meaning Discord still gets the money and everyone's happy.
    - tptacek 4y ago
      Why should companies that build products with serverside components be required to let you build your own clients? What you're saying when you make this demand is that it should be unlawful to build closed systems (or: unlawful to build closed systems if there's a network API anywhere in them).
_yvnd 4y ago
I cannot wait not to use it because it's against ToS
- deleted 4y ago
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- alperalimoglu 4y ago
  What does `ToS` stand for?
  - kspyy 4y ago
    terms of service
ranger_danger 4y ago
> lightweight > golang yet another terminal discord client that will be abandoned shortly
- memorable 4y ago
  Why though? Sorry if I don't understand the meaning.
  - rustqt6 4y ago
    Go is the slowest compiled non vm language
    - TingPing 4y ago
      Which is completely irrelevant. It's very fast and it's competition is a slow and heavy web app anyway.
    - IshKebab 4y ago
      "Go is the slowest very fast language."
  - ranger_danger 4y ago
    because that has happened to every single one of them so far
glouwbug 4y ago
Cool easter egg: if you click on the notification icon in discord 15 times really quickly a Japanese sounding bot speaks out "DISCORDO"
dancemethis 4y ago
> Discord > "secure". Pick one. Put the other in the fire. Creating a client does not protect the absurd amount of personal user data and metadata it already has, and will continue to acquire. Does not protect new users from having their personal information stolen, processed and sold/yielded by Discord. Further creating conditions for more people to be coerced into using it "because others are too" is not quite neat, let's put it like that.

101 points by ducktective 4y ago

lbrito 4y ago

What do you disagree with? EDIT: wow, people really hate jokes. No fun allowed!

smoldesu 4y ago

Super cool to see this underway, I've been waiting for a cordless replacement for a while now!

hprotagonist 4y ago

will you get banned for using it like you will for every other alt client? Automated user accounts or "self-bots" are against Discord's Terms of Service. I am not responsible for any loss caused by using "self-bots" or Discordo. hmm. seems like no.

toastercat 4y ago
You don't get banned for using Ripcord since it uses the same APIs as the web client.
- fouric 4y ago
  What prevents Discord from doing a synchronized change of their web client and server APIs and using accesses to the old API to detect Ripcord users, then banning them?
  - lima 4y ago
    Nothing whatsoever.
  - toastercat 4y ago
    Nothing, but in doing so, they'll likely ban non-Ripcord uses who are using outdated clients as well, followed by a bunch of support tickets by confused users.
- benbenolson 4y ago
  Yeah, this is what I use, and I've not been banned or anything. I have been locked out of my account, though. There was a week during which I got locked out, and had to re-authenticate with 2FA to get into my account, once a day. However, they eventually stopped doing that after enough support tickets rolled in, and Ripcord has been rippin' along ever since.
- baal80spam 4y ago
  I'm using Ripcord for over 3 years now and love it.
- euclaise 4y ago
  It has happened before https://annaclemens.io/discord https://annaclemens.io/discord
  - toastercat 4y ago
    Yes, I remember when this happened. Everyone who got banned had their accounts unbanned (I was not banned however, and I've used Ripcord daily since 2018). You were also just as likely to have gotten banned if you used an outdated Android client.
  - stepupmakeup 4y ago
    If they're willing to lie about using a third party client (which is what they did to initially reach front page here many moons ago), I'd wager they were actually attempting to automate their actions instead of "BANNED after manually pressing 6 buttons".
Operyl 4y ago
Yes, you likely will. They have heuristics that will snuff out custom clients, and it's frequent to see people get nabbed by this. It's unfortunate, because from an abuse perspective I understand why (they have issues with spam from user accounts joining guilds and spamming users with "Free Nitro" (premium membership for Discord)).
- scohesc 4y ago
  That's the really frustrating part about this - I understand they want to keep their walled ecosystem/garden/whatever for whatever reasons they want. I just wish I could customize discord's GUI so: -The GUI have so less empty space -Have a "compact" version where it just shows the users in the channel and who's speaking, and compact view of a chat channel. The default window is just an absolute PAIN, it doesn't go smaller than a certain size and it just has so much irrelevant information not pertinent to the voice/video call I'm in or who I'm chatting with. Maybe I'm the boomer longing for individual/group chats a la MSN messenger 20 years ago. :O
  - Operyl 4y ago
    > Maybe I'm the boomer longing for individual/group chats a la MSN messenger 20 years ago. :O I know, right? The thing is, the vast majority of the generation using this don't have these qualms, it works for them. This must be how it felt like when we stopped used corded phones, haha. Or hand written stuff to type writers..
  - est31 4y ago
    FTR there is a compact setting for discord. I use it together with 80% zoom so that it has a "normal" font size. Turns it into an actually usable product :).
  - Firmwarrior 4y ago
    I think the really frustrating part is that tons of knowledge and discourse is getting blackholed into Discord's walled dumpster where it's not searchable and likely to disappear forever within a few years
  - 4y ago
madars 4y ago
Official Twitter account: >All 3rd party apps or client modifiers are against our ToS, and the use of them can result in your account being disabled. I don't recommend using them. https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248 https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248 Thus it looks like in practice you can't have a client that has local chat history, local search, or just better information density on the screen, and simultaneously hope to not have your account nuked.
- lifthrasiir 4y ago
  Note that this is a slightly different way to phrase the actual ToS [1]: You may not copy, modify, create derivative works based upon, distribute, sell, lease, or sublicense any of our software or services. You also may not reverse engineer or decompile our software or services, attempt to do so, or assist anyone in doing so, unless you have our written consent or applicable law permits it. In the other words, they want to disallow derivative works as long as law permits. There are two possible workarounds: 1. If your software doesn't actually depend on Discord clients and servers at all, for example AutoHotKey macros, you would be probably fine as they wouldn't be derivative works. Legal 3rd-party clients may be created with this way (I haven't seen any such attempts though); create a virtual desktop where the official client runs and reconstruct an alternative interface from screen captures, in principle. 2. They can only do things allowed by the law. Reverse engineering in particular is allowed in many jurisdictions when it's necessary to operate with other programs or devices, and a virtual desktop mentioned in 1 may qualify for this (but: IANAL). If a broader allowance is desired though, the law has to be changed. [1] https://discord.com/terms https://discord.com/terms
  - madars 4y ago
    They also have: >We reserve the right to block, remove, and/or permanently delete your content for any reason, including breach of these terms, our Community Guidelines, our other policies, or any applicable law or regulation.
    - lifthrasiir 4y ago
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agluszak 4y ago

Discord and other biggest communication platforms should be legally required to provide a fully featured API. Forbidding users from writing and using 3rd party clients is outrageous.

edfletcher_t137 4y ago
Regardless of what you feel should be true, the reality is that Discord considers using software like this "self-botting" and will ban your account for it. The disclaimer to this effect is buried at the very bottom of the README, seemingly on purpose.
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  Ideally there should be no way for them to even know we're running custom clients.
tptacek 4y ago
Why? What else should I be able to demand from other people's products, simply by dint of their products fitting a particular description?
- HidyBush 4y ago
  Discord clients can't magically implement features that the Discord API doesn't have. The only thing they can do is personalize the experience locally, maybe by changing the interface or implementing more comfortable defaults and shortcuts. This is not a case of a Discord client offering Nitro (i.e. paid) features for free, to get the paid features you have to authenticate yourself through the API meaning Discord still gets the money and everyone's happy.
  - tptacek 4y ago
    Why should companies that build products with serverside components be required to let you build your own clients? What you're saying when you make this demand is that it should be unlawful to build closed systems (or: unlawful to build closed systems if there's a network API anywhere in them).

_yvnd 4y ago

I cannot wait not to use it because it's against ToS

deleted 4y ago
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alperalimoglu 4y ago
What does `ToS` stand for?
- kspyy 4y ago
  terms of service

ranger_danger 4y ago

> lightweight > golang yet another terminal discord client that will be abandoned shortly

memorable 4y ago
Why though? Sorry if I don't understand the meaning.
- rustqt6 4y ago
  Go is the slowest compiled non vm language
  - TingPing 4y ago
    Which is completely irrelevant. It's very fast and it's competition is a slow and heavy web app anyway.
  - IshKebab 4y ago
    "Go is the slowest very fast language."
- ranger_danger 4y ago
  because that has happened to every single one of them so far

glouwbug 4y ago

Cool easter egg: if you click on the notification icon in discord 15 times really quickly a Japanese sounding bot speaks out "DISCORDO"

dancemethis 4y ago

> Discord > "secure". Pick one. Put the other in the fire. Creating a client does not protect the absurd amount of personal user data and metadata it already has, and will continue to acquire. Does not protect new users from having their personal information stolen, processed and sold/yielded by Discord. Further creating conditions for more people to be coerced into using it "because others are too" is not quite neat, let's put it like that.