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I try to shill https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete as much as I can and actively contribute in my

I try to shill https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete as much as I can and actively contribute in my area when ever I remember. One of my biggest motivating factors is that I'm nearly trapped in google search for things that involve local search and wanting to see a map, distance to drive, x,y or z in my area. I've also just recently stumbled onto the https://osmand.net/blog/osmand-android-4-1-released/ https://osmand.net/blog/osmand-android-4-1-released/ ability to load into my car so that's neat.

raybb 4y ago
Street Complete is great. I just wish they made it easier to enter the hours for a business. I don't know how they could do it but if a business has different hours each day it's quite painful to get that info into the app.
- matkoniecz 4y ago
  Do you have any specific ideas how to make it easier? I admit that it can be obnoxious, especially if business has gap in the middle of the day. But it seems to me case where data to enter is simply complex and I see no obvious way to make it easier. What worse, typically multiple days have the same opening hours, so interface is optimized to make this kind of input easier (ability to select multiple days at once) (I am one of contributors to that software)
  - ViViDboarder 4y ago
    Funny. I work at Yelp and this was one of the interview questions I was asked almost 10 years ago.
  - frenchy 4y ago
    I actually thought it was suprisingly good, given the difficult problem domain. It's been a while since I used it, but one thing that might help would be to look at the interface the for Alarms in Android. It looks pretty similar, but it's a little bit different, and I think a little bit easier to use.
  - raybb 4y ago
    Since I have your ear, I thought about it some more and here are some ideas. Moonshot: Let users snap a picture and use OCR to suggest times that user can then edit. Another idea to make it a bit easier for businesses with odd hours: A option for a wizard. Something like: 1. Click here to start Wizard 2. Monday: Select open time (or say not opened) 3. Monday: Select closed time 4. Monday: Option to add another time block 5. Tuesday: Option to copy and modify times from Monday 6. Repeat 7. Option to copy time from Monday/Tuesday 8. Repeat, etc I'm not sure how exactly this would play out, and it would only be good in the more complex cases but I personally think it would be easier.
matkoniecz 4y ago
Thanks! Just in case you (or someone else) has feedback about things which are unclear or confusing: please comment. (I am one of contributors and recently completed small round of UX testing, see https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/discussions/4264 https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/discussions... )
- jcynix 4y ago
  I really like StreetComplete, and tend to use it while taking a walk or hiking, but ... the last time I used it, adding info about sidewalks was annoying. Legt? Right? But no Option to say "on both sides" ... need to check the lässt update later.
andrepd 4y ago
I haven't been able to figure out the reason for this: why is it that scrolling the map in Osmand is so janky?! It's ridiculous: scrolling stutters at ~5fps and when I let go it re-draws everything with no attempt at caching things or smoothing the rendering process. I've no idea why this is the case but it's definitely the only major blemish on an otherwise superb app.
- JustSomeNobody 4y ago
  I have that complaint as well. But I also think it takes too long to route. I'm sure a lot of people would complain, but I wish they'd try and mimic what Apple and Google do for UI.
  - lmm 4y ago
    BRouter makes the routing a zillion times faster. It's an absoulte pain to install and configure, but worth it.
- leni536 4y ago
  AFAIK it's newer android storage API limitations that they did't work around yet.
- fezfight 4y ago
  So, in a scenario like this, where the competition is a super mega company with effectively infinite money, I think we should all agree not to make comments like this about FOSS projects. I know that sounda crazy but here me out. One of Microsoft's old tricks is called FUD. It stands for Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. The idea is that people's opinions of things can be nudged using fear, uncertainty and doubt. Enough to sway opinion at scale. In this case, if you truly believed an app is superb, you're doing it a massive disservice by giving it your criticism publicly. I know, I know, how dare I suggest you not provide useful feedback on a public forum. But the thing is, I believe your single comment will prevent a not insignificant amount of adoption! Adoption by the masses often helps these projects undertake QoL improvements like what your comment describes. Contradictorily, I believe honest critism of entrenched apps made by huge corporations is vital to help the smaller guys get a chance to share the wealth for exatly the same reasons.
ezfe 4y ago
For people on iOS, "Go Map!!" is a great OSM editor
Self-Perfection 4y ago
Take a look at https://every-door.app/ https://every-door.app/ StreetComplete is great but it is focused on updating broad range of existing objects. Every Door on the other hand is the best for adding and updating POIs.
NonNefarious 4y ago
Android only? Um... OK.

raybb 4y ago

Street Complete is great. I just wish they made it easier to enter the hours for a business. I don't know how they could do it but if a business has different hours each day it's quite painful to get that info into the app.

matkoniecz 4y ago
Do you have any specific ideas how to make it easier? I admit that it can be obnoxious, especially if business has gap in the middle of the day. But it seems to me case where data to enter is simply complex and I see no obvious way to make it easier. What worse, typically multiple days have the same opening hours, so interface is optimized to make this kind of input easier (ability to select multiple days at once) (I am one of contributors to that software)
- ViViDboarder 4y ago
  Funny. I work at Yelp and this was one of the interview questions I was asked almost 10 years ago.
- frenchy 4y ago
  I actually thought it was suprisingly good, given the difficult problem domain. It's been a while since I used it, but one thing that might help would be to look at the interface the for Alarms in Android. It looks pretty similar, but it's a little bit different, and I think a little bit easier to use.
- raybb 4y ago
  Since I have your ear, I thought about it some more and here are some ideas. Moonshot: Let users snap a picture and use OCR to suggest times that user can then edit. Another idea to make it a bit easier for businesses with odd hours: A option for a wizard. Something like: 1. Click here to start Wizard 2. Monday: Select open time (or say not opened) 3. Monday: Select closed time 4. Monday: Option to add another time block 5. Tuesday: Option to copy and modify times from Monday 6. Repeat 7. Option to copy time from Monday/Tuesday 8. Repeat, etc I'm not sure how exactly this would play out, and it would only be good in the more complex cases but I personally think it would be easier.

matkoniecz 4y ago

Thanks! Just in case you (or someone else) has feedback about things which are unclear or confusing: please comment. (I am one of contributors and recently completed small round of UX testing, see https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/discussions/4264 https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/discussions... )

jcynix 4y ago
I really like StreetComplete, and tend to use it while taking a walk or hiking, but ... the last time I used it, adding info about sidewalks was annoying. Legt? Right? But no Option to say "on both sides" ... need to check the lässt update later.

andrepd 4y ago

I haven't been able to figure out the reason for this: why is it that scrolling the map in Osmand is so janky?! It's ridiculous: scrolling stutters at ~5fps and when I let go it re-draws everything with no attempt at caching things or smoothing the rendering process. I've no idea why this is the case but it's definitely the only major blemish on an otherwise superb app.

JustSomeNobody 4y ago
I have that complaint as well. But I also think it takes too long to route. I'm sure a lot of people would complain, but I wish they'd try and mimic what Apple and Google do for UI.
- lmm 4y ago
  BRouter makes the routing a zillion times faster. It's an absoulte pain to install and configure, but worth it.
leni536 4y ago
AFAIK it's newer android storage API limitations that they did't work around yet.
fezfight 4y ago
So, in a scenario like this, where the competition is a super mega company with effectively infinite money, I think we should all agree not to make comments like this about FOSS projects. I know that sounda crazy but here me out. One of Microsoft's old tricks is called FUD. It stands for Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. The idea is that people's opinions of things can be nudged using fear, uncertainty and doubt. Enough to sway opinion at scale. In this case, if you truly believed an app is superb, you're doing it a massive disservice by giving it your criticism publicly. I know, I know, how dare I suggest you not provide useful feedback on a public forum. But the thing is, I believe your single comment will prevent a not insignificant amount of adoption! Adoption by the masses often helps these projects undertake QoL improvements like what your comment describes. Contradictorily, I believe honest critism of entrenched apps made by huge corporations is vital to help the smaller guys get a chance to share the wealth for exatly the same reasons.

ezfe 4y ago

For people on iOS, "Go Map!!" is a great OSM editor

Self-Perfection 4y ago

Take a look at https://every-door.app/ https://every-door.app/ StreetComplete is great but it is focused on updating broad range of existing objects. Every Door on the other hand is the best for adding and updating POIs.

NonNefarious 4y ago

Android only? Um... OK.