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> Are meats unhealthy, or, is it the food fed (grains on a foodlot) to the animal that negatively influences the health profile? I think there's a difference b
by onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
> Are meats unhealthy, or, is it the food fed (grains on a foodlot) to the animal that negatively influences the health profile?
I think there's a difference between healthy food, okay food, and unhealthy food.
Something ultra processed, high in sugar, and low in other macro and micro nutrients is probably unhealthy.
I think "red meat" is unlikely to be very unhealthy - in the same way a Twinky is. But maybe pepperoni sticks aren't too far behind...
I'm not sure why so many people are convinced that red meat - in most of its forms - is one of the best foods you can possibly eat.
There's a mountain of evidence that a lot of vegetables are really good for you. There's not much counter evidence that they're really bad for you. On the flip side, there's not a lot of evidence that red meat is super healthy. And there is a decent amount of evidence that it isn't.
- seibelj 4y agoThe human body is poor at processing cellulose. You need a lot of plants to equal the nutrients from meat. You can do it, but a cheeseburger, a multivitamin, adequate sun, and good exercise is also a healthy lifestyle.
- shlant 4y agoit seems weird that you would talk about supposed shortfalls of plant nutrition and then in the next sentence talk about cheeseburgers (who considers these healthy?) and multivitamins (which are not considered a substitute for proper nutrition[1][2]) 1. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/is-there-really-any-benefit-to-multivitamins https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-preventi... 2. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/do-multivitamins-work https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/do-multivitamins-work
- samatman 4y agoI consider a cheeseburger healthy. The custom of serving them with french fried potatoes and a milkshake or cola gives them a bit of guilt by association, but meat, some cheese, some vegetables, and a serving of bread? Don't see an issue at all.
- cwillu 4y agoTurns out you can make any meal unhealthy if you include half a pound of sugar.
- luckman212 4y agoI'm no food snob and enjoy a good burger as much as the next guy, but are you really calling a leaf of lettuce, 2 pickle slices and a squirt of HFCS-laden ketchup "some vegetables"? Ehh...
- samatman 4y agoThat doesn't sound like a good burger per se? I like a couple leaves of lettuce, in August definitely nice slices of tomato, onions grilled or raw, and generally put my six pickle slices in a delicate daisy wheel. I've become a convert to the under-the-meat school of burger 'topping', 2 centimeters of vegetable matter will survive this without the dreaded backslide. A salad it ain't, but let's not bicker about the meaning of 'some' eh? A burger with ketchup on it won't pass my lips on purpose, I'll only judge you very slightly for it and you hopefully won't notice. A bit of pan fat or a very thin layer of mayo, mustard on occasion.
- onlyrealcuzzo 4y agoThere's a lot of evidence that multivitamins don't actually do much: https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/do-multivitamins-make-you-healthier https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/do-multivitamins-...
- adrian_b 4y agoAny vitamin or multivitamin or mineral supplements can have effects only on people whose diet is deficient in those vitamins or minerals, and only up to a certain daily intake, above which no improvements are likely. Depending on their diet, some supplements may be life-saving for some people or completely useless for others.
- copperx 4y agoThere was some research that claimed that the increase of lifespan gained by eating vegetables was negated by the increased intake of pesticides. In fact, it suggested a net negative.