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Tiny rural town giving a real world demonstration of why there continues to be a brain drain towards urban centers. This is the world they want to live in.

devwastaken 4y ago
One would argue libraries are the drain given every piece of literature there is accessible everywhere else. Books are simply no longer the source of information and "brain". And unless Twitter is academic now, urban folk aren't reading much either.
- Defletter 4y ago
  Do you honestly believe that "urban folk" are Twitter addicts?
- orwin 4y ago
  I do think urbanites read more, go more to the theater, spend less time on the internet, and participate in more social activities that lead them to meet more strangers. Maybe only in my area, or in my country, but it is pretty clear cut ATM.
carrotcarrot 4y ago
Urban centers arent any better. Both sides have become more and more radicalized. As a gay guy who loves urban life and has a lot of conservative views, this world is very frustrating.
- sofixa 4y ago
  It's a bit like the Cuban émigrés in Florida who fear anything left of Pinochet, and thus vote for the party blaming people like themselves (from "mexican countries" if i can quote a very knowledgeable news anchor on Fox news or some other trash TV network) for all ills. So in your case, you can vote for the party that's, in general, against what you are, or for the policies that you want (probably on the economic more than social side of conservatism, it'd be interesting for a gay person to be socially conservative). That's why a two party system is extremely stupid.
  - slt2021 4y ago
    Actually the reason why hispanic migrants vote republican (=against immigration) are purely economical, not ideological. Newly arrived immigrants compete on the same job market for the same jobs, that these (now legal) older immigrants occupy: service jobs, hospitality, food, etc. any new immigrants puts downward pressure on wages and reduces overall pie. I would say this is pure capitalist ideology at play here
  - rayiner 4y ago
    I would suggest that it’s a bad idea for liberals to actually drink their own Kool Aid, or they’re going to overlook the facts on the ground. https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/whats-going-on-with-hispanic-working https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/whats-going-on-with.... And standing around complaining that brown people are “voting against their own interests” is not a good look. I’m an immigrant from a Muslim country who used to be a Democrat, and now I vote Republican, in part because I think the way Democrats view race is bad for minorities, and also consciously or unconsciously a pretext for consolidating cultural power in the hands of white elites: https://contexts.org/blog/who-gets-to-define-whats-racist https://contexts.org/blog/who-gets-to-define-whats-racist. Moreover, I’ve been all around the country, the Midwest and the south, and I’ve never met anybody that is “against who I am.” What I’ve met is people who are concerned about cultural change, in the same way people from my home country would be if the shoe were in the other foot.
    - tptacek 4y ago
      You've been a self-identified conservative since before you signed up for HN, so the liberalism you're implying you had here must have been confined to your very early 20s, before you were "the token conservative" at law school. :) (I'm not dunking on you; you've gotten, uh, pretty strident in the last year or so, but your conservatism is one of the things I appreciate about your presence here.)
      - nec4b 4y ago
        I can't remember when was the last time I read an original comment from you that wasn't a snipe at rayiner. It's too bad, because you used to have insightful ideas.

devwastaken 4y ago

One would argue libraries are the drain given every piece of literature there is accessible everywhere else. Books are simply no longer the source of information and "brain". And unless Twitter is academic now, urban folk aren't reading much either.

Defletter 4y ago
Do you honestly believe that "urban folk" are Twitter addicts?
orwin 4y ago
I do think urbanites read more, go more to the theater, spend less time on the internet, and participate in more social activities that lead them to meet more strangers. Maybe only in my area, or in my country, but it is pretty clear cut ATM.

carrotcarrot 4y ago

Urban centers arent any better. Both sides have become more and more radicalized. As a gay guy who loves urban life and has a lot of conservative views, this world is very frustrating.

sofixa 4y ago
It's a bit like the Cuban émigrés in Florida who fear anything left of Pinochet, and thus vote for the party blaming people like themselves (from "mexican countries" if i can quote a very knowledgeable news anchor on Fox news or some other trash TV network) for all ills. So in your case, you can vote for the party that's, in general, against what you are, or for the policies that you want (probably on the economic more than social side of conservatism, it'd be interesting for a gay person to be socially conservative). That's why a two party system is extremely stupid.
- slt2021 4y ago
  Actually the reason why hispanic migrants vote republican (=against immigration) are purely economical, not ideological. Newly arrived immigrants compete on the same job market for the same jobs, that these (now legal) older immigrants occupy: service jobs, hospitality, food, etc. any new immigrants puts downward pressure on wages and reduces overall pie. I would say this is pure capitalist ideology at play here
- rayiner 4y ago
  I would suggest that it’s a bad idea for liberals to actually drink their own Kool Aid, or they’re going to overlook the facts on the ground. https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/whats-going-on-with-hispanic-working https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/whats-going-on-with.... And standing around complaining that brown people are “voting against their own interests” is not a good look. I’m an immigrant from a Muslim country who used to be a Democrat, and now I vote Republican, in part because I think the way Democrats view race is bad for minorities, and also consciously or unconsciously a pretext for consolidating cultural power in the hands of white elites: https://contexts.org/blog/who-gets-to-define-whats-racist https://contexts.org/blog/who-gets-to-define-whats-racist. Moreover, I’ve been all around the country, the Midwest and the south, and I’ve never met anybody that is “against who I am.” What I’ve met is people who are concerned about cultural change, in the same way people from my home country would be if the shoe were in the other foot.
  - tptacek 4y ago
    You've been a self-identified conservative since before you signed up for HN, so the liberalism you're implying you had here must have been confined to your very early 20s, before you were "the token conservative" at law school. :) (I'm not dunking on you; you've gotten, uh, pretty strident in the last year or so, but your conservatism is one of the things I appreciate about your presence here.)
    - nec4b 4y ago
      I can't remember when was the last time I read an original comment from you that wasn't a snipe at rayiner. It's too bad, because you used to have insightful ideas.