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Not to be dismissive, but as far as I can tell, the heavy work is done by facebook's demucs and this is an electron front end to run the demucs cli (and I guess

Not to be dismissive, but as far as I can tell, the heavy work is done by facebook's demucs and this is an electron front end to run the demucs cli (and I guess search youtube for videos to download). The demucs project page has more information. https://github.com/facebookresearch/demucs https://github.com/facebookresearch/demucs

pininja 4y ago
There’s no need to be dismissive since they say this in the first sentence. Preparing an easy to use app for all platforms probably does get this into more creative hands, and that’s a net-positive contribution I can appreciate.
- SebaSeba 4y ago
  They did not prepare it for all platforms though. Linux is missing.
  - pininja 4y ago
    Looks like someone’s on it. https://github.com/stemrollerapp/stemroller/pull/2 https://github.com/stemrollerapp/stemroller/pull/2
- TimTheTinker 4y ago
  It does seem rather disingenuous that the product page makes no mention that the author didn't do the heavy lifting, and that at the same time it features a prominent donation button. If I didn't know who did the real work and benefitted a lot from this tool, I'd give to StemRoller in proportion to my gratitude -- which I'm sure others are liable to do.
  - frob 4y ago
    It's in the first paragraph of the README in the github repo and th3 second paragraph on the website. I'm not sure what more can be asked of the author.
    - TimTheTinker 4y ago
      Thanks - I didn't even notice there was content below the fold on the web site (I'm on a desktop browser). How about saying so above the fold?
      - wszfahwbwbaha 4y ago
        How about you stop being so pedantic and admit it when you're wrong instead of digging a deeper, dumber hole.
        TimTheTinker 4y ago
        This is a real design problem - many web sites do this. Saying so and suggesting an alternative isn't being pedantic.
        drivebycomment 4y ago
        > It does seem rather disingenuous that the product page makes no mention that the author didn't do the heavy lifting, It does seem rather disingenuous that your replies make no mention of admission for making a factually incorrect statement in the first reply. Not a big deal to me personally, but it is not surprising that some people see this as being petty.
        TimTheTinker 4y ago
        Thanks for clarifying. I did think saying "Thanks" to the person who corrected me is a straightforward admission that I was wrong... if not - yes, I was wrong. To the downvoters above: is a "thanks" to a correcting comment not enough on HN? Also, was it rude to say hiding content "below the fold" is a design problem? This is a very odd thread to me - like I was being chased down by pedants who are calling me pedantic.
        wszfahwbwbaha 4y ago
- amelius 4y ago
  It should be in the title.
lapink 4y ago
Original Demucs author here. Thanks for putting forward our research! I’m definitely happy to see more front ends for Demucs being developed and to read that it has been useful to other musicians! We are working on the next iteration of the model, and with more sources, hopefully released by the end of the year :) If you are interested in this research you can follow my Twitter (@honualx) or star the Demucs repo.
- game-of-throws 4y ago
  I'm curious, what is the business justification for funding development of Demucs, if you don't mind me asking? It doesn't seem very related to FB's core business.
  - FLT8 4y ago
    Solving problems like audio source separation (eg. Distinguishing multiple speakers in a noisy environment, or picking speech out of a background where music is playing) seems very much in FB's wheelhouse.
  - lapink 4y ago
    The goal of Meta AI Research is to do open research, not necessarily with direct applications at the time we start it. Indeed, the architecture, or the lessons learnt working on it can become useful later for the company, for instance for remote presence with VR, to isolate the main speaker from its environnement ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/2206.15423.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/2206.15423.pdf ).
  - nickserv 4y ago
    Just a guess here, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's used to better spy on your messenger audio conversations. They already listen in and will pick up keywords to populate your FB ad stream.
    - ec109685 4y ago
      That’s absolutely not true. Facebook does not listen to your conversation: https://twitter.com/jspujji/status/1474797770871615497?s=20&t=4pUV6KmUMCXYBK0Jr5cUHA https://twitter.com/jspujji/status/1474797770871615497?s=20&...

pininja 4y ago

There’s no need to be dismissive since they say this in the first sentence. Preparing an easy to use app for all platforms probably does get this into more creative hands, and that’s a net-positive contribution I can appreciate.

SebaSeba 4y ago
They did not prepare it for all platforms though. Linux is missing.
- pininja 4y ago
  Looks like someone’s on it. https://github.com/stemrollerapp/stemroller/pull/2 https://github.com/stemrollerapp/stemroller/pull/2
TimTheTinker 4y ago
It does seem rather disingenuous that the product page makes no mention that the author didn't do the heavy lifting, and that at the same time it features a prominent donation button. If I didn't know who did the real work and benefitted a lot from this tool, I'd give to StemRoller in proportion to my gratitude -- which I'm sure others are liable to do.
- frob 4y ago
  It's in the first paragraph of the README in the github repo and th3 second paragraph on the website. I'm not sure what more can be asked of the author.
  - TimTheTinker 4y ago
    Thanks - I didn't even notice there was content below the fold on the web site (I'm on a desktop browser). How about saying so above the fold?
    - wszfahwbwbaha 4y ago
      How about you stop being so pedantic and admit it when you're wrong instead of digging a deeper, dumber hole.
      - TimTheTinker 4y ago
        This is a real design problem - many web sites do this. Saying so and suggesting an alternative isn't being pedantic.
        drivebycomment 4y ago
        > It does seem rather disingenuous that the product page makes no mention that the author didn't do the heavy lifting, It does seem rather disingenuous that your replies make no mention of admission for making a factually incorrect statement in the first reply. Not a big deal to me personally, but it is not surprising that some people see this as being petty.
        TimTheTinker 4y ago
        Thanks for clarifying. I did think saying "Thanks" to the person who corrected me is a straightforward admission that I was wrong... if not - yes, I was wrong. To the downvoters above: is a "thanks" to a correcting comment not enough on HN? Also, was it rude to say hiding content "below the fold" is a design problem? This is a very odd thread to me - like I was being chased down by pedants who are calling me pedantic.
        wszfahwbwbaha 4y ago
amelius 4y ago
It should be in the title.

lapink 4y ago

Original Demucs author here. Thanks for putting forward our research! I’m definitely happy to see more front ends for Demucs being developed and to read that it has been useful to other musicians! We are working on the next iteration of the model, and with more sources, hopefully released by the end of the year :) If you are interested in this research you can follow my Twitter (@honualx) or star the Demucs repo.

game-of-throws 4y ago
I'm curious, what is the business justification for funding development of Demucs, if you don't mind me asking? It doesn't seem very related to FB's core business.
- FLT8 4y ago
  Solving problems like audio source separation (eg. Distinguishing multiple speakers in a noisy environment, or picking speech out of a background where music is playing) seems very much in FB's wheelhouse.
- lapink 4y ago
  The goal of Meta AI Research is to do open research, not necessarily with direct applications at the time we start it. Indeed, the architecture, or the lessons learnt working on it can become useful later for the company, for instance for remote presence with VR, to isolate the main speaker from its environnement ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/2206.15423.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/2206.15423.pdf ).
- nickserv 4y ago
  Just a guess here, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's used to better spy on your messenger audio conversations. They already listen in and will pick up keywords to populate your FB ad stream.
  - ec109685 4y ago
    That’s absolutely not true. Facebook does not listen to your conversation: https://twitter.com/jspujji/status/1474797770871615497?s=20&t=4pUV6KmUMCXYBK0Jr5cUHA https://twitter.com/jspujji/status/1474797770871615497?s=20&...