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Seems like he left and got into Crypto? https://www.linkedin.com/in/doronichev/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/doronichev/

goldenchrome 4y ago
He did. And before that he was in AR/VR. I know a few execs who have done similar hops: jumping from one hype space to the next in the hopes that one of them disrupts the whole industry and they get launched up in their career. A sort of VC fund with an investment size of one, yourself.
- spaceman_2020 4y ago
  Nothing wrong with that. You owe nothing to the company. The company won’t be loyal to you, why should you be loyal to it?
  - Aeolun 4y ago
    As an executive, my expectations are a bit different. I’m more loyal to the company, and the company is more loyal to me. To prevent the company from being too disloyal we have golden parachutes.
  - goldenchrome 4y ago
    I see what you’re saying and I respect it. You have to take care of yourself first. However, as someone who worked in one of those fields, it’s draining when over half of your leaders are trend hoppers. They get up on stage frequently and talk about how excited they are, and how it’s a long journey ahead. And then as soon as the industry takes a slight downturn they all leave in unison. Some of the leaders are truly passionate about the field and they’re still around. It’s very clear who is who from the way they act towards the employees. The experience taught me to avoid hype industries unless I’m willing to make money the number one goal in my life, which is harder than I thought, since life has plenty of things more enjoyable than money.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    It's not about company loyalty, it's about whether you actually believe in any of this tech. And you're supposed to, when you're a director with PR duties.
  - tmp_anon_22 4y ago
    Until someone looks in that employee's wake and sees one dumpster fire after another and the employee being the common denominator. These people aren't just jumping from hype space to hype space, they are torching each of those projects to extract short term gains to the detriment of the teams under them.
    - spaceman_2020 4y ago
      Appreciate the sentiment, but if any employee does indeed have a track record like that, its on the company for hiring someone like that in the first place. The real question is, why is the market so inefficient at sifting through bad employees, especially near the top of the ladder? The fact that this exec has been able to jump from one dumpster fire to another, often with a promotion, tells me that there’s something broken about the way senior execs are hired.
Gareth321 4y ago
>Former Director of Product at Stadia. >Former Director of Product at Google AR/VR. >Former Head of Mobile, Group PM at YouTube. Ouch.
- hatware 4y ago
  Ouch? In todays economy that kind of title inflation can get you places. You might run everything you touch into the ground, but hey who cares?
  - robotnikman 4y ago
    Sometimes I wish I had the shamelessness some people have, it seems to be a great way to advance your career.
    - corrral 4y ago
      I wish I could figure out the secret handshake that gets you hired to one prominent, presumably high-paid, spitballin' and chattin' and "idea person" role after another, despite a track record of apparent mediocrity in actual results. Seems like it'd be really fun and—plainly—not very hard work.
      - hatware 4y ago
        At that level I think it's just more sales than substance. Many people are great salespeople without realizing it, I think this contributes to the phenomenon of failing upward.
  - jldugger 4y ago
    > You might run everything you touch into the ground, but hey who cares? In a more perfect world, when this resume hits the hiring committee's desk, they read it and think "this leadership role is too important to fill with someone who's never managed a downturn."

He did. And before that he was in AR/VR. I know a few execs who have done similar hops: jumping from one hype space to the next in the hopes that one of them disrupts the whole industry and they get launched up in their career. A sort of VC fund with an investment size of one, yourself.

spaceman_2020 4y ago
Nothing wrong with that. You owe nothing to the company. The company won’t be loyal to you, why should you be loyal to it?
- Aeolun 4y ago
  As an executive, my expectations are a bit different. I’m more loyal to the company, and the company is more loyal to me. To prevent the company from being too disloyal we have golden parachutes.
- goldenchrome 4y ago
  I see what you’re saying and I respect it. You have to take care of yourself first. However, as someone who worked in one of those fields, it’s draining when over half of your leaders are trend hoppers. They get up on stage frequently and talk about how excited they are, and how it’s a long journey ahead. And then as soon as the industry takes a slight downturn they all leave in unison. Some of the leaders are truly passionate about the field and they’re still around. It’s very clear who is who from the way they act towards the employees. The experience taught me to avoid hype industries unless I’m willing to make money the number one goal in my life, which is harder than I thought, since life has plenty of things more enjoyable than money.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  It's not about company loyalty, it's about whether you actually believe in any of this tech. And you're supposed to, when you're a director with PR duties.
- tmp_anon_22 4y ago
  Until someone looks in that employee's wake and sees one dumpster fire after another and the employee being the common denominator. These people aren't just jumping from hype space to hype space, they are torching each of those projects to extract short term gains to the detriment of the teams under them.
  - spaceman_2020 4y ago
    Appreciate the sentiment, but if any employee does indeed have a track record like that, its on the company for hiring someone like that in the first place. The real question is, why is the market so inefficient at sifting through bad employees, especially near the top of the ladder? The fact that this exec has been able to jump from one dumpster fire to another, often with a promotion, tells me that there’s something broken about the way senior execs are hired.

Gareth321 4y ago

>Former Director of Product at Stadia. >Former Director of Product at Google AR/VR. >Former Head of Mobile, Group PM at YouTube. Ouch.

hatware 4y ago
Ouch? In todays economy that kind of title inflation can get you places. You might run everything you touch into the ground, but hey who cares?
- robotnikman 4y ago
  Sometimes I wish I had the shamelessness some people have, it seems to be a great way to advance your career.
  - corrral 4y ago
    I wish I could figure out the secret handshake that gets you hired to one prominent, presumably high-paid, spitballin' and chattin' and "idea person" role after another, despite a track record of apparent mediocrity in actual results. Seems like it'd be really fun and—plainly—not very hard work.
    - hatware 4y ago
      At that level I think it's just more sales than substance. Many people are great salespeople without realizing it, I think this contributes to the phenomenon of failing upward.
- jldugger 4y ago
  > You might run everything you touch into the ground, but hey who cares? In a more perfect world, when this resume hits the hiring committee's desk, they read it and think "this leadership role is too important to fill with someone who's never managed a downturn."