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Map showing birthplaces of "notable people" around the world
- throwaway743 4y agoThe container for the radio buttons stretches to at least to the center, isn't visible, and prevents clicking/tapping on map items. This is on mobile in FF.
- pcrh 4y agoCurious notability ranking. Obama is the No.1 ranking person and Trump the No. 2, Leonardo Da Vinci is No. 3. Also was surprised to find that Audrey Hepburn is from Belgium (rank 158)...
- ryandrake 4y agoI was also curious about how the "notability ranking" is calculated. Just looking at the American West: Demi Lovato: 226.5 Demi Moore: 825, Tommy Lee Jones: 829, Dennis Hopper: 977.5, Woody Harrelson: 1319 Wait, what? Who the heck is Demi Lovato? I never even heard of her until I browsed her Wikipedia page.
- TheRealNGenius 4y agowhy the FUCK did you use white text on a white globe?
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- sgt 4y agoLooks blue to me.
- TheRealNGenius 4y agoNope, white as fuck: https://imgur.com/a/aXLg5Yg https://imgur.com/a/aXLg5Yg
- yreg 4y agoI give you that :D It's just a bug, not a design decision.
- sgt 4y agoGuessing you are not a native English speaker. Fuck is a very strong word that is very seldom used. Rap videos and movies are not representative of the real world.
- TheRealNGenius 4y agowell fuck...
- sgt 4y agoNaughty boy.
- yreg 4y agoThe globe is blue…?
- TheRealNGenius 4y agonope
- rburhum 4y agoIf you showed the “leadership” map you just generated to the peruvian people, at least 50% would turn on you…
- yakubin 4y agoI couldn't find Maxwell, which is weird since Maxwell is present in the source CSV. He should be placed somewhere in Edinburgh. Fantastic site nonetheless.
- tcmb 4y agoSeems to be eclipsed by Sean Connery, also from Edinburgh.
- rchard2scout 4y agoThat's because both Sean Connery and Maxwell have their birthplace as just "Edinburgh", and Connery's notability rank is 261, while Maxwell's is 683. So Connery is shown instead of Maxwell.
- macintux 4y agoVery cool project, and also reveals buggy data to fix. One note if the creator is here: it looks like deprecated locations are included. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q596717 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q596717 includes both Indiana (deprecated) and Linton, Indiana, and he shows up on the map near the center of Indiana apparently as its most notable person, which is clearly not the case.
- teekert 4y agoVery nice, I'm missing the city names though :) Crazy how little women there are, it's like for our entire recorded history we have been ignoring 50% of our potential. Let's hope it gets a lot more mixed!
- macintux 4y agoYou can toggle between people and location names on the left.
- downboots 4y ago> it's like we have been ignoring 50% of our potential. Well, most all had a mom...
- teekert 4y agoAnd sisters and daughters... But somehow they never had the same opportunities to get on this "Famous People" list. Last week I told my Daughter she can be a knight (although granted she usually wants to be a princess), and I felt weird and then I felt extra weird.
- downboots 4y agoI think we agree a lot of good work goes unrecognized. Just pointing out no one works truly alone. Off topic: I imagine parenting must feel extra weird. :)
- idkwhoiam 4y ago> she can be a knight She cannot unless you mean cosplay.
- downboots 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc
- eterevsky 4y agoWhy is the most famous person born in St. Petersburg Ayn Rand and not say Putin?
- ldng 4y agoAll I have got in Firefox is a blue ball.
- darkwater 4y agoWorks for me with Firefox 102/Linux
- tgv 4y agoMe too: Firefox 103, macOS. And I did turn off uBlock Origin.
- tjukanov 4y agoCreator here. I've restricted the access token for the data to only incoming traffic from that specific domain (tjukanovt.github.io), so maybe Firefox is doing something weird there. As if you can't access the tileset, you only get that blue ball.
- shmde 4y agoJust like real life.
- pvaldes 4y agoThe Planet is a blue ball if you point to Eastern Island
- ivanstame 4y agoSo Nikola Tesla was not notable enough? Or I just can't find it in Serbia or the US.
- selectnull 4y agoBecause he was not born in neither Serbia or the US.
- macintux 4y agoCroatia. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9036 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9036
- CapitalistCartr 4y agoTesla was born in modern-day Croatia. He's listed there.
- trompetenaccoun 4y agoIt's about birth places and he was born in the Austrian Empire, if you check Central Europe you find him right there.
- eesmith 4y agoI didn't understand the methodology. Turns out it's because my first data point was the result of an error in the source data. I looked at Santa Fe, since I thought George R. R. Martin would be the most famous person there. This says Anna Gunn is the most famous person from Santa Fe. Okay, so perhaps Martin's a transplant, while Gunn was born there? The map legend says "birthplaces", after all. Nope. At least, Wikipedia and IMDB says she was born in Cleveland, and her family moved to Santa Fe when she was young. Though ... other sources say she was born in Santa Fe, like https://patch.com/new-mexico/albuquerque/3-celebrities-who-live-our-backyard https://patch.com/new-mexico/albuquerque/3-celebrities-who-l... ? But the source paper at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4 uses Wikipedia and Wikidata - both of which list Cleveland. ... Ah-ah! The place of birth entry for Wikidata changed on 3 August 2020 from Cleveland to Santa Fe. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q271050&oldid=1245879940 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q271050&oldid=124... And the Wikipedia entry changed on 31 August 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anna_Gunn&diff=861772527&oldid=857406895 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anna_Gunn&diff=86... And the data from the paper was from 2018. I wonder how bad the data is in the rest of the data set.
- darkwater 4y agoSo, Leonardo Da Vinci is #3, Hitler #4, I cannot find #1 and #2.
- selectnull 4y agoBarack Obama is #1. Trump is #2 :)
- jiggywiggy 4y agoTrump is 2. Haven't found 1 yet
- mywittyname 4y agoExplore the Pacific
- jiggywiggy 4y agoThe difference between the EU and US is wild. EU is mostly historical figures, Picasso, Da Vinci, Erasmus, Van Gogh, and of course Adolf. But US, even though some old presidents, it's mostly pop & movie stars.
- LewisVerstappen 4y agoYeah, EU has a much richer history since we don't know much about the US pre-1750. Go over the Levant and you start seeing Paul the Apostle, Diogenes, Ptolemy, etc. which makes Voltaire look like a modern political commentator.
- jiggywiggy 4y agoThere are also a lot of historical figures in EU from 1750 - 1945. It's more that US has taken over the cultural dominance after the second world war. And that it hasn't done so with philosophers, artists, scientist or dictators. But mostly with entertainers.
- mkl 4y ago> Go over the Levant and you start seeing Paul the Apostle, Diogenes, Ptolemy, etc. And Keanu Reeves! I had no idea.
- taink 4y agoWell, the linked study[1] does note an anglo-saxon bias: > We document an Anglo-Saxon bias present in the English edition of Wikipedia, and document when it matters and when not. Regardless of these biases, Europe has much more historical background than the US. Finally, this data is based upon Wikipedia and Wikidata. I gather datasets from India or China would provide much different results. Interesting project nonetheless! [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4
- larsonnn 4y agoYeah ofc it’s just Hitler you see.
- jmfayard 4y agoJean-Paul Sartre is shown as the most famous people born in Colombia I think Simon Bolivar or Shakira or Gabriel Garcia Marquez or many others have a better claim to the title Especially since Jean-Paul Sartre was born in Paris What's weird is that wikidata has the correct info https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9364 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9364
- eesmith 4y agoChanged from Paris to Bogotá on 9 November 2018 by someone from 190.145.246.250 . https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9364&diff=785288689&oldid=781356427 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q9364&diff=785288... Change back to Paris on 22 December 2018. On 17 March 2019 2a01:e35:8ab4:ac00:75c3:3673:f22b:4a45 changed to Tokyo. On 30 September 2019 201.187.105.154 changed to Chile. On 16 January 2020 changed to Efflamm. On 16 January 2020 changed to Paris, where it's been ever since. This signature tells us the dataset for the paper was extracted in November or December of 2018. Various other bits of high-schooler sabotage: 30 September 2019 201.187.105.154 changed place of death to Easter Island. 29 November 2018 190.247.191.178 changed place of burial to Bikini Bottom. 7 March 2019 201.164.233.103 changed cause of death (P509) to cocaine.
- jmfayard 4y agoHilarious view of what is going on behind the scenes, thanks!
- lentil_soup 4y agoSimon Bolivar was born in Caracas, Venezuela, though, it is shown as the most famous person there
- thenoblesquid 4y agoDoes Pablo Escobar belong in that conversation? Or am I like many others who have just been exposed to the show Narcos which makes up the entirety of our Colombian experience?
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- AccountAccount1 4y agowhere is messi?
- shmde 4y agoOvershadowed by Che Guevara. They belong to the same city.
- danpalmer 4y agoThis is wonderful. I just learnt that a composer I love the music of was born where I currently live (Michael Nyman) and that some of my favourite actors come from where I grew up (UK South coast). Great idea, good way to learn more about people and places.
- davidkuennen 4y agoInteresting. For our small town in Germany (Lastrup) it's Ludger Gerdes [1] But even tho not born in Lastrup, Özlem Türeci [2] who helped develop the Biontech Corona vaccine grew up here. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludger_Gerdes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludger_Gerdes [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96zlem_T%C3%BCreci https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96zlem_T%C3%BCreci
- tomelders 4y agoBrian Blessed is more famous than Diana Rigg.
- Ekaros 4y agoAyn Rand for St. Petersburg... Hmm, I would have guessed Putin would out rank her, but maybe name changes affect things?
- cafard 4y agoShe shows up under culture. I'd have thought that Pushkin would have outranked her there, certainly outside the Anglosphere. Or one could make a case for Anna Akhmatova.
- makeitdouble 4y agoAnswering a question I had looking at this amazing work, the data set has a heavy English influence, but they are aware of it and also worked toward mitigating the effect. From the source: > This strategy results in a cross-verified database of 2.29 million unique individuals (an elite of 1/43,000 of human being having ever lived) among which 30% come from the 6 non-English editions of Wikipedia, a significant improvement over earlier works that have only focused on English Wikipedia only. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4
- outadoc 4y agoFor my birthplace in France, mostly only names I’ve never heard of. Would be nice to be able to filter by time period.
- lordnacho 4y agoWow this is amazing. A lot of places are known for a mid-level pro soccer player that you're unlikely to have heard of, unless you are very into it. How does it know when it's appropriate to cut the dataset a little bit finer? I'm amazed how appropriate the names are that it turns up.
- tester756 4y agoJan Czochralski Notability rank: 78172.5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Czochralski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Czochralski wow, very low
- hackernewds 4y agoJustly so
- matsemann 4y agoLots of surprises (to me) scrolling around. J.R.R.Tolkien and Freddie Mercury from Africa. George Orwell and Cliff Richard from India. Some wrongs, though. I see JP Sartre in South America, but the link says Paris.
- nothrowaways 4y agoAmazing graphics.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y agoLeonardo da Vinci ahead of Hitler is pure fantasy. 95% of the population don't know who he was, his profession or are able to cite any of his work. Everybody knows who Hitler is. Mona Lisa vs. Hitler that I could see being a close one with maybe Mona Lisa ending up ahead. Still it would be Hitler IMHO. But I don't think it's fair to attribute Mona Lisa fame to Leonardo
- drexlspivey 4y agoEveryone knows who da Vinci is in Europe, idk where you got the 95% figure from.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y agoI challange you to try. Namedrop Hitler vs. Da Vinci and see how people react
- SuperSandro2000 4y agoLooking at Europe: Adolf Hitler
- Aachen 4y agoJust alt-tabbed from an OpenStreetMap chat to HN and took "map" in the title as a verb. Mildly disappointed I don't get to map with them! (Was already wondering how this was going to work, figured it probably means the most well-known mapper or so.)
- davidguetta 4y agoThis map is so awesome. I want to do somethings similar for a hobby of mine, i'll have to check how you did the progressive zooming thing.
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- jordanmoconnor 4y agoLooking at the data - these locations are based on where they were born (not where they currently reside, or died).
- Angostura 4y agoIt does say that at the top, but I too was initially confused as to why Charles Darwin was in Shrewsberry, rather than the place he lived for most of his adult life - the very splendid Down House https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/home-of-charles-darwin-down-house/ https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/home-of-cha...
- probably_wrong 4y agoVery cool project. So onto the nitpicking! I couldn't find Diego Maradona in Argentina. It does list Lionel Messi, though.
- lentil_soup 4y agoah! I was actually confused to find Maradona at the north of Colombia for some reason. The source dataset seems correct so something must have gone wrong with the map
- wicket 4y agoI think they got El Pibe de Oro mixed up with Carlos "El Pibe" Valderrama, who astonishingly doesn't appear in Santa Marta or anywhere in Colombia.
- obert 4y agostrong proof that north and south pole births lead to a career in politics :-)
- trompetenaccoun 4y agoNo one was ever born at either pole.
- obert 4y agowould be interesting/cool having a similar map for parents of famous people
- manthedudeguy 4y ago
- ptato 4y agoWhen I selected sports it got a bit buggy. Balotelli in Madrid, Maradona in Barranquilla.
- mgoetzke 4y agoGeorge Orwell, Richard Dawkins, etc some where really illuminating
- mothsonasloth 4y agoNo Billy Connolly in Glasgow :(
- lekevicius 4y agoShinzo Abe marked as "probably alive", so clearly some data is out of sync with WikiData.
- tjukanov 4y agoThe dataset is a snapshot and it's not reading the API. That's why I added the word "probably" there to somehow tackle this kind of unfortunate cases.
- grumple 4y agoNoam Chomsky over Will Smith for Philly, who doesn't show up at all? So wrong. The People Map seemed to get some more things right.
- madcaptenor 4y agoIf you zoom in on Philly it seems like they position Grace Kelly in Center City and Noam Chomsky in North Philly somewhere. Noam Chomsky was actually born in North Philly (according to Wikipedia) - I can't tell what part of Philadelphia Grace Kelly should be associated with. But then they don't have anyone in West Philly. I don't know if Will Smith is the most famous person associated with Philadelphia, but he is surely the famous person most associated with West Philadelphia.
- kull 4y agoit frozen my browser
- aerodog 4y agoSmall algorithmic feedback: George Washington was located to the wrong Westmoreland County! (He's from VA, not PA)
- nurgasemetey 4y agoThis app is using Wikidata and actually you can change it.
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- Orkocom 4y agoi love that site ;) ty for posting
- m0rissette 4y agoIs this just for city in world; do people = lookupNotableOnWikipediaForCity(city); for person in people; do rank = rankPeople(person); storeRank(rank, person, city); done; done With some obvious logic behind the ranking algorithm?
- midasuni 4y agoIt looks more like for each (top X notable people) print on map with location, and as you zoom out make the less notable people fade out
- ryandrake 4y agoDev feedback: It seems the map can get in this weird state where the "focus" is on the horizon rather than the center of the globe, and you can no longer rotate it sensibly. Maybe the rotations get gimbal locked or something? Fixed by refreshing the page. Safari on MacBook Air / trackpad.
- mdemare 4y agoVery cool map! Huge recency bias though, with Obama and Trump on 1 and 2. I wonder what the map would look like if you multiplied everyone's score with the number of people born in the same decade, and divided by the total score of people born in the same decade.
- ehnto 4y agoI suppose this is actually representing the most famous people in the -western world's lens- rather than the most famous people to each country respectively. For example, Haruki Murakami is a Japanese author, very famous in the west because their books have been translated into English. But would they be the most famous person from Kyoto to people in Japan? That's something that's always fascinated me about the internet, it's essentially delineated by language and not country. If you google things in Spanish, you get the spanish web. If you google things in Japanese, you get the Japanese web. For a subtle example of this, there's very little crossover between Japanese memes and English memes, it's a whole different web. Japanese web design is also famously different to western web design, it's formed it's own set of UX expectations and principles.
- poulpy123 4y agoit's representing the most famous people in wikepedia and wikidata for 7 languages. The detail are here https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4#Sec1 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4#Sec1
- 9dev 4y agoWhile it’s good to have the appropriate facts, that is only tangential to OPs point…
- horsawlarway 4y agoeh - I vaguely disagree. I think most of the people in the US are also off (or at least historically "dated"). Even without looking, I could pretty immediately tell that this was wikipedia data, since most of the names are "textbook famous". So really - we're both saying that the word "famous" was probably the wrong pick. Should have just said "Map of wikipedia's most known people from every city" and then the skew is clear.
- influxmoment 4y agoIt's very much western lense. It's what would a foreigner know in this part of Asia
- cplli 4y agoConsidering some of the people on there, the HN title could be "famous & infamous", or as the project puts it on the page, "Notable". Still, very awesome project!
- rory 4y agoInfamous people are definitionally famous.
- 101008 4y agoWhat is it using to calculate the ranking? Definitely wrong in Argentina, where Diego Maradona does not even appear when you filter by Sports (!).
- shmde 4y agoToday I learnt that George Orwell was born in India.
- lcuff 4y agoThe most bizarre thing I found is the 'notability' score for Jesus at 204.5 and Muhammad at 152. Both well behind Britney Spears at 59. Britney's fans will be thrilled, I guess. Clicking around, the notability of Western pop culture folk generally seem enormously inflated.
- dwd 4y agoNotability seems highly inflated towards recent and pop culture. Like favouring Neil Gaiman over Isambard Kingdom Brunel?
- AtNightWeCode 4y agoMore people seen Britney than Jesus...
- lettergram 4y agoThese are very political based. Trust me the most famous person from Chicago is not Hillary Clinton. How about Walt Disney, Robin Williams, Kanye West, Hugh Hefner? Why was Hillary selected? Lol feels like a sampling bias.
- shmde 4y agoYes, Che Guevara shows up in Argentina when it should be Messi
- jrogan993 4y agoMaradona too
- probably_wrong 4y agoThis user found Maradona hanging out in northern Colombia, where he's losing the notoriety war to Gabriel García Marquez. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32275300 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32275300
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- kodt 4y agoAlso Hillary moved to Park Ridge when she was 3 years old, she likely has no memory of her time living in Chicago. An odd choice.
- Cd00d 4y agoThere's plenty of discussion in this thread on the methodology. Clearly Hillary has a longer and more verbose Wikipedia entry than any of those other people, which is no way surprising considering her length of tenure as a high profile national politician. You could be more helpful by presenting your superior approach to programmatically ranking 'fame'.
- 75central 4y agoAnother weird data oddity...it's show Jake Gyllenhall as being born in Los Angeles, Texas, but he's actually from Los Angeles, California.
- jFriedensreich 4y agoIt's a cool map, now i would really want to play. If i could color code the names by birthdate it would be possible to get a great new insight in regional relevance over time. Also switching between current residence and birth place would be very interesting as well as color coding the distance between birth and current residence to see where attractive places are or how much of a role to become famous the embedding from birth would be.
- chunkyguy 4y agoIt says the most famous person in my area was Ronald Ross, but he was only born there and left when he was 8. Also nobody in my state even knows about him.
- bb123 4y agoCambridge UK shows John Maynard Keynes. I think Charles Darwin, Stephen Hawking and Isaac Newton might dispute that!
- elif 4y agoThis map has huge generational and institutional biases. Who is Lee Norris of Greenville, NC? Does anyone know of him here? I can tell you 8/10 people under 20 know who Mr Beast is. Does being the leading content producer on the leading content platform not make you more "notable" than someone who had two backing roles on 90's TV sitcoms?
- BCM43 4y agoWikidata has MrBeast listed as being born in Wichita, KS, where he's competing with Joe Walsh for notability. There's probably still a very reasonable argument to be made that MrBeast is more notable, but it's much less clear than Lee Norris.
- jordanmorgan10 4y agoIt's a neat project, but does it ignore movie stars? I zoomed into my hometown of Springfield, MO where Brad Pitt is from and he wasn't listed. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he is a globally recognized actor.
- stephen_g 4y agoIt uses Wikidata as its data source, which has Brad Pitt listed as being born in Shawnee Oklahoma: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q843999 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q843999
- jordanmorgan10 4y agoAh - my mistake then. I assumed since he went to high school here, he was from the area. TIL! But hey, at leas the fictional Jason Bourne apparently hails from Nixa, MO, so I've got that.
- boredemployee 4y agoit's funny how some people can't just enjoy the product as it is. imagine if the author had to customize it to please everyone's agenda.
- Cthulhu_ 4y agoWhich would make it even more complicated as some of the borders on the map are disputed.
- qabqabaca 4y agoIs this your first time on HN? 90% of comments are people either pedantically picking apart the submissions or, if its a product, plugging their own alternative without commenting on the submission at all
- mitchdoogle 4y agoIt doesn't really add much for someone to comment, "This is great! There's nothing about it that isn't amazing!"
- boredemployee 4y agoNo one wants any of that. I just think a balance of good and constructive criticism would add lots of value, but the internet isn't prepared to have that conversation.
- bzxcvbn 4y agoWhy should I be forced to enjoy the product as it is? It's one thing to make something like this for fun, but if you post it on an online link-sharing platform, you're bound to find people who don't enjoy what you've made.
- boredemployee 4y agoOk!
- DontchaKnowit 4y agoHell yes they got Eminem right. No one believes he's from Joe town.
- chazeon 4y agoMost part of Asian is covered by political figures while US is covered by artists.
- 4cao 4y agoDepends what you mean by "Asia" I guess but in the part I've looked at, not really. For Taiwan the largest names are Ang Lee (film director), Teresa Teng (singer), Jay Chou and Jolin Tsai (also singers). For HK, the actor Jackie Chan trumps anybody else. Hayao Miyazaki (animator) is one of the most prominent in Japan. And in South Korea around Seoul, there's Psy and a couple of other artists as well.
- wink 4y agoCool idea, the main problem I saw when clicking around is that the granularity of people's place of birth (all via wikipedia) is not consistent. Like, one person has my city listed, so this person "owns" the entry for the city, but 10 other people have parts of the city listed (so their wikipedia entry is more correct), so they're listed for that part of town, be it an official part or not. For some people a specific building is known (usually not a hospital), so they "only" own this building. It's a bit weird.
- throwaway2016a 4y agoI noticed the same thing. Boston, for instance has a ton of people in individual neighborhoods but smaller cities have one person representing the whole city. Also, it relies on birth location. So someone who, say, left a city and moved at age 5 will be associated with the city they only lived in for 5 years not the one they spent their formatives years in. Still a fun experiment, though.
- mkovach 4y agoI wonder what they mean by "notable". Notable folks from my town include announcers for major sports teams, a famous cartoonist, a former director of an international organization, and a Grammy winning musician (among others). The map indicates the "notable" from my town is a playbook centerfold that married an football player and wrestled a few times, who I had to actually look up.
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- kordlessagain 4y agoI always fancied saying to Brad Pitt when I see him, "Ever go to Bea Brittons and play songs on the table's jukebox?". He grew up in Shawnee, Oklahoma. I spent a lot of time searching and playing songs on the jukebox there, which had all these little remote units for selecting songs on each table. I still wonder what the network for that looked like.
- seaourfreed 4y agoBill Gates didn't make the list of people who are famous
- aasasd 4y agoI was concerned for New York for a bit, since choosing one person must be brutal to all others. But apparently NYC actually consists of a ton of cities.
- dwd 4y agoSir Howard Florey seems to have missed out in Adelaide completely. Only the most significant person born in Australia, who's co-discovery in medicine has saved ~200 million lives in the last 80 years.
- intrasight 4y agofamous == celebrity here It would be nice if you could select type of fame, since it's listed that way in Wikipedia
- CPLX 4y agoGeorge Washington wasn’t born in Pennsylvania.
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- TremendousJudge 4y agoNot to go all Godwin, but Hitler is right there in Austria, visible from the farthest level of zoom.
- mitchdoogle 4y agoHitler is also on the map. "Famous" isn't the word used on the webpage - that can sometimes mean "celebrated". The word they use is "notable", which is perhaps more appropriate when talking about people who have committed heinous acts.
- anshumankmr 4y agoHitler might be the most (in)famous person ever to have lived and so much so that his name has become a synonym for evil (colloquially). There is a reason that every page on Wikipedia is 6 clicks away from his article.
- HL33tibCe7 4y agoThis is really cool
- erkanerol 4y agoIt seems "cities of the most famous people" instead of "most famous people from every city" to me.
- alabhyajindal 4y agoWow this is super cool
- jdthedisciple 4y agoSo it seems the most famous people everywhere have to do with politics ... particularly involved in the most deadly conflicts and wars.
- galactus 4y agoJean Paul Sartre was colombian? what? :D
- gossamer 4y agoI noticed that too. Wikipedia says Paris. I think it is an error. I don't think he was born in Bogotá.
- einpoklum 4y agoSome of the famous people are famous mythical people who possibly, or certainly, did not actually live.
- loufe 4y agoI'm surprised by the data, to be honest. I've never heard of either of the two "famous" people shown in my hometown. Strange considering we're known for a very famous actress and a very famous hockey player, neither of which showed up at all.
- psyc 4y agoI've lived in about 15 different locations, and the only names I recognize are in very major cities, and one 2nd-largest-in-state city. I have the impression that I've heard of famous people coming from the other towns in the past but I can't remember the specifics.
- fatjokes 4y agoI feel bad for the city whose most famous resident is Ted Cruz.
- yoda97 4y agoApparently my hometown is famous for a french clothes designer born during the colonial era.
- swyx 4y agois there a way to extract the sorted list of people by fame? how was the fame list decided?
- scottwmaxwell 4y agoThis is really fun! I even shared it with my family. Please ignore the others who just fucking HAD to make it about race or gender or whatever.
- madcaptenor 4y agoMLK for Atlanta checks out. (But then the most famous person from my town is Ryan Seacrest. That sounds about right but I don't have to like it.)
- anshumankmr 4y agoMost famous when viewing USA while zoomed out is Donald Trump???
- crims0n 4y agoIs that really so surprising? He has been world famous since the 80s and was dominating headlines during his presidency.
- madcaptenor 4y agoI'm sure George W. Bush would love to see his name in Connecticut.
- velopert 4y agoWow this page is awesome
- drac89 4y agoif anyone interested here is the Github link to the source code => https://github.com/tjukanovt/tjukanovt.github.io/blob/master/notable-people.html https://github.com/tjukanovt/tjukanovt.github.io/blob/master...
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- jibbit 4y agoI don’t think Charlie Chaplin is the most famous Londoner
- sunsetandlabrea 4y agoIt's hard to imagine someone more famous than Charlie Chaplin.
- IcyHordr 4y agoThank you, I love this!
- bthrn 4y agoSome of this doesn't seem correct? For example, I was surprised to see that Ken Jeong was Canadian (shown up and to the right of Michael J Fox, in what looks like Northern Saskatchewan). But I looked it up and he was born in Detroit.
- throwaway743 4y agoCaught that too. George Washington is showing up in PA
- vmladenov 4y agoIt is quite amusing to see Prince Phillip under the leadership section covering Greece and part of Italy while someone like Vasil Levski is omitted.
- yummybear 4y agoWildly incorrect in my region at least. Seems like one of the sources is sports databases, as most are (to me) completely unknown soccer players.
- martincmartin 4y agoThe source seems to be Wikipedia.
- deltree7 4y agoThe most garbage map that I've ever seen. Mumbai has 20 famous people (most of them I've never heard of) while missing hundreds of famous people.
- donatj 4y agoCame here to complain about the data accuracy, but I see I was beaten to it. I’ll just add that this has an “interesting” number of people born at the north and south poles.
- svat 4y agoThis data's definition of "famous" or "notable" is in the "Measuring notability" section of the linked paper: we build a synthetic notability index using five dimensions to figure out a ranking for this broader set of individuals. These dimensions are: 1. the number of Wikipedia editions of each individual; [i.e. number of languages in which this person has a Wikipedia article] 2. the length, i.e total number of words found in all available biographies. […] 3. the average number of biography views (hits) for each individual between 2015 and 2018 in all available language editions […] 4. the number of non-missing items retrieved from Wikipedia or Wikidata for birth date, gender and domain of influence. The intuition here is that the more notable the individual, the more documented his/her biographies will be; [!] 5. the total number of external links (sources, references, etc.) from Wikidata. We then determine the quantile values from each dimension and add them all to define our notability measure They also have a table of what this metric throws up as the most "notable" from each time period: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4/tables/3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4/tables/3 and how the "domain" varies over time: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4/figures/2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4/figures/2 (note Nobility and Religious in 500–1000, to Sports and Culture post 1950).
- peterkelly 4y agoZoomed into the area around Jerusalem and found the following: Natalie Portman - notability rank 221 Jesus - notability rank 204.5 Go a bit further north to Haifa, and you'll find Gene Simmons with a notability rank of 2136.
- avyfain 4y agoFWIW, it seems like the ranks are an inverse scale where lower means more notable - Jesus is more notable than Natalie Portman according to the index.
- peterkelly 4y agoAh yes I see it now. She's close though! John Lennon once famously claimed the Beatles were "More popular than Jesus" [1]. His notability index is 27. I guess he must have been right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_popular_than_Jesus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_popular_than_Jesus
- Geee 4y agoWhat are those guys doing at the poles? Pretty sure that William Lounsbery wasn't born in Antarctica. There's also a Finnish politician born near the North Pole.
- AtNightWeCode 4y agoFun. My biggest surprise so far is Ruggero Deodato. Did not expect to see him.
- archi42 4y agoHa, nice visualization. Some surprises, e.g. I didn't know about Orwell, but literature isn't my strong suite. The data source seems a bit outdated, as it has Elliot Page still listed as Ellen Page (or there is some other notable person with that name which I don't know).
- lief79 4y agoWell, Cullen Eddy from Hidden Valley is certainly in the wrong county of pennslyvania.
- typeofhuman 4y agoWould be cool if you listed the city!
- chalcolithic 4y agoI absolutely love it. So interesting to find out that the mayor of Kyiv was born pretty close to where I am now. Do you have any plans on monetizing it?
- whiterock 4y agoThere are some errors I think - According to wikidata & wikipedia the famous Diego Maradonna is not born in Colombia but Argentina. It strikes me as worrysome since this is such a famous person - I‘d rather expect such errors for less famous persons, right?
- 5evOX5hTZ9mYa9E 4y agoCheck out North vs South Korea.
- teledyn 4y ago"In the future, everyone will be famous for fifteen people" (Momus, 1991) http://imomus.com/index499.html http://imomus.com/index499.html
- booboofixer 4y agoWhen i see young people around me share this with enthusiasm despite the environment that’s been created mostly because of social media, I can’t help but think if this was meant to be a warning.
- RLN 4y agoThis seems a little inaccurate. I've found John Pearse for my hometown in Hook, Hampshire. However Wikipedia indicates he's from Hook in Yorkshire. I imagine this could be repeated quite often as there are so many reused place names. Hook in Yorkshire doesn't even get a look in on this map!
- literallyWTF 4y agoWhere’s Kobe?
- Cd00d 4y agoWeird. No famous people are noted at the house I grew up in. Bad joke. This is amazing - thank you.
- _8j50 4y agoThere are people from Antarctica??
- rags2riches 4y agoI would think being born in Antarctica is notable in itself! All the entries hear appear to be errors though.
- nemo1618 4y agoI checked all of them, and none seem to have actually been born in Antarctica :(
- ask_b123 4y agoI didn't know Frida Kahlo was the most famous mexican, but I guess some famous mexicans I'd have thought of (say, Benito Juárez) are mostly famous locally and not globally. EDIT: their rank difference is huge, 156 vs 1733.
- noduerme 4y agoSanta Monica is... Sean Penn? Who made this?
- djmips 4y agoWho should it be?
- ComputerCat 4y agoAhah this is neat, thanks for sharing! Enjoyed looking up my hometown and seeing who was there.
- whiterock 4y agoAccording to this map Jean-Paul Sartre is from Colombia?!? He‘s born is Paris, France.
- lseki 4y agoI quickly verified the data records [0][1] mentioned by the website, and indeed it shows France instead of Colombia: --- $ zgrep -i Jean-Paul_Sartre cross-verified-database.csv.gz Q9364,1905,1980,,circa,1905,1905,1980,1980,Male,Culture,Jean-Paul_Sartre,Western Europe,1905,1980,(...),France,'France',France,,D:_'France'_matchB1_P:_'France',France,Missing,enwiki(...) --- So probably it's a mistake from "notable-people" rather than the original data record. [0] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4#Sec28 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01369-4#Sec28 [1] https://data.sciencespo.fr/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.21410/7E4/RDAG3O https://data.sciencespo.fr/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10...
- Tiktaalik 4y agoSome surprises when you find people in odd places or don't find them where you expect due to them being born somewhere obscure far from where they gained their fame. For example the "Greatest Canadian" (voted as such in some CBC special) Tommy Douglas does not appear in Saskachewan (most famous person here... Wrestler Roddy Piper actually) but rather a suburb of Edinburgh. Hey I'm learning something! Would be tricker to compose a map that factors in where they lived independent from where they were born .
- idontpost 4y agoWhy is George Washington shown as being from Pennsylvania?
- lovestays4ever 4y agoIs the source code available on github or somewhere else?
- lrpe 4y agoNice map, but the color palette causes some serious eye strain.
- Lerc 4y agoA curious factor in this map is that to stop overlapping text, names are not shown if higher ranked names are nearby. Peter Jackson at with respectable 'top 1000' score of 656 doesn't appear because he was born too close to Ernest Rutherford who edges him out at 634. Andrew Niccol, who's films are somewhat more niche, gets on the map by virtue of being born a few kilometers north of Jackson.
- opheliate 4y agoMight be worth updating this with the latest from Wikidata: It looks like Elliot Page [0] is listed under his birth name, with the wrong gender too. Just one example, but also I’m sure other things have changed :) 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Page
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- drumhead 4y agoThis is a fantastically fun project. You can lose hours just wandering around the globe. Its things like this that remind you why the internet can be such a glorious thing. Its inaccurate and with few uses, but so what, its fun!
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- willybillybrown 4y agoThe website is amazing. Maybe we should start a discussion on some of the errors so they can improve the website. So far I know of Diego Maradona, Jean-Paul Sartre, George Washington, and Jake Gyllenhaal. Btw who are the people who ended up in the poles lmaooooo? Have no clue about any of them.