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I mean, it's not like smaller forums didn't have an issue with power hungry moderators who would ban you completely for stupidest things. The same people are no

I mean, it's not like smaller forums didn't have an issue with power hungry moderators who would ban you completely for stupidest things. The same people are now subreddit moderators. This isn't really a problem with reddit.

ls15 4y ago
I think OP was referring to a site-wide ban that only admins can issue.
dylan604 4y ago
It was much more fun to kick people out of a channel in IRC
- dvtrn 4y ago
  I forget the name of it now, but back when I was still in irc regularly, I used a client that would hilariously play an explosion sound effect whenever someone got kicked. Made for amusing chuckles to hear it in the background whilst working and wondering “wonder who just got the hammer”
  - dylan604 4y ago
    back then, a lot of those kind of apps allowed you to assign your own sounds. the infamous Monty Python arrow sound "message for you sir!", the whistle sound before the explosion, etc were all popular sfx when the apps granted that kind of customization. now, we get ring tones and other "choose from our curated list". zzzzzz!
    - kixiQu 4y ago
      I have the Sailor Moon sparkle noise as a Matrix notification sound and I regret nothing
      - dylan604 4y ago
        Nor should you, unless your volume is at an eleven.
    - dvtrn 4y ago
      Im with you on snoozing and being incredibly bored with the quality and range of “curated” stuff coming with my apps and services.
- spacemanmatt 4y ago
  if you were a real chump you'd kickban them then teardr0p them
ufmace 4y ago
That's not what I'm talking about though. Forum bans and subreddit bans are small change. What really makes people move platforms is when the Reddit admins nuke entire subreddits for dubious reasons, including breaking poorly defined rules. And admins deleting posts that follow the rules of their subreddit and completely banning accounts for various reasons.
- thrown_22 4y ago
  Yes, this isn't new either. The advice given to IRC admins was always "don't post in your own channels". There are plenty of irc channels and forums administrated even worse than reddit.
- WaxProlix 4y ago
  What sorts of subreddits have been nuked for dubious reasons? I know admins have been abusive of privilege in the past but it seems pretty small- to normal-sized-potatoes as forum admin ego tripping goes.
  - Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
    A lot of people think /r/The_Donald was banned for dubious reasons.
    - markdown 4y ago
      Those people never visited The_Donald and didn't see the racism and bigotry there. It was a cesspool had no other purpose than to circlejerk over Trump and malign, and attack his political opponents. It added no value to reddit.
      - ninkendo 4y ago
        Hard agree. I deleted my reddit account over the fact that they kept letting T_D exist despite its obvious flouting of the rules around brigading (they arranged brigades on discord and took over other subreddits, repeatedly, after being warned) and how it was an increasingly obvious alt-right funnel full of some of the absolute worst people on the internet. They ultimately closed the subreddit about a year later, but I had already deleted my account at that point. I was better off in the end though, as the entire site is now just a giant meme dump with no redeeming qualities (it felt like all subreddits eventually saturate with memes on their main page as a function of their popularity, and it gets tiresome and same-ey after a while.)
noasaservice 4y ago
> This isn't really a problem with reddit. YES it is. Reddit empowers fascist types to run their fiefdoms, UNTIL the liliputian leaders start running *too many* users away. It's all about users per day engagement. If you harm that, the reddit admins show up and clean house. But in the interim, they'll let you think you own that subreddit.
- gambiting 4y ago
  And if you were a mod of a smaller forum that relied on ads to stay afloat, what exactly would happen if you started banning loads of people? It's the same thing, different name.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    That scenario basically doesn't exist. A smaller forum can thrive on $5 hosting. (We're comparing to reddit so I assume volunteer moderation.)
tcmart14 4y ago
Yea, that is the part of the equation people forget. They see a ban and big platform and thing those things are only happening on big platforms owned by big corporate people in shiny offices. Nope, censorship can happen in small communities ran by Billy Bob down the street to. It comes down more to people. If someone wants an echo chamber, they will create an echo chamber regardless if it is a subreddit or a MyBB instance on a shared hosting plan.

ls15 4y ago

I think OP was referring to a site-wide ban that only admins can issue.

dylan604 4y ago

It was much more fun to kick people out of a channel in IRC

dvtrn 4y ago
I forget the name of it now, but back when I was still in irc regularly, I used a client that would hilariously play an explosion sound effect whenever someone got kicked. Made for amusing chuckles to hear it in the background whilst working and wondering “wonder who just got the hammer”
- dylan604 4y ago
  back then, a lot of those kind of apps allowed you to assign your own sounds. the infamous Monty Python arrow sound "message for you sir!", the whistle sound before the explosion, etc were all popular sfx when the apps granted that kind of customization. now, we get ring tones and other "choose from our curated list". zzzzzz!
  - kixiQu 4y ago
    I have the Sailor Moon sparkle noise as a Matrix notification sound and I regret nothing
    - dylan604 4y ago
      Nor should you, unless your volume is at an eleven.
  - dvtrn 4y ago
    Im with you on snoozing and being incredibly bored with the quality and range of “curated” stuff coming with my apps and services.
spacemanmatt 4y ago
if you were a real chump you'd kickban them then teardr0p them

ufmace 4y ago

That's not what I'm talking about though. Forum bans and subreddit bans are small change. What really makes people move platforms is when the Reddit admins nuke entire subreddits for dubious reasons, including breaking poorly defined rules. And admins deleting posts that follow the rules of their subreddit and completely banning accounts for various reasons.

thrown_22 4y ago
Yes, this isn't new either. The advice given to IRC admins was always "don't post in your own channels". There are plenty of irc channels and forums administrated even worse than reddit.
WaxProlix 4y ago
What sorts of subreddits have been nuked for dubious reasons? I know admins have been abusive of privilege in the past but it seems pretty small- to normal-sized-potatoes as forum admin ego tripping goes.
- Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
  A lot of people think /r/The_Donald was banned for dubious reasons.
  - markdown 4y ago
    Those people never visited The_Donald and didn't see the racism and bigotry there. It was a cesspool had no other purpose than to circlejerk over Trump and malign, and attack his political opponents. It added no value to reddit.
    - ninkendo 4y ago
      Hard agree. I deleted my reddit account over the fact that they kept letting T_D exist despite its obvious flouting of the rules around brigading (they arranged brigades on discord and took over other subreddits, repeatedly, after being warned) and how it was an increasingly obvious alt-right funnel full of some of the absolute worst people on the internet. They ultimately closed the subreddit about a year later, but I had already deleted my account at that point. I was better off in the end though, as the entire site is now just a giant meme dump with no redeeming qualities (it felt like all subreddits eventually saturate with memes on their main page as a function of their popularity, and it gets tiresome and same-ey after a while.)

noasaservice 4y ago

> This isn't really a problem with reddit. YES it is. Reddit empowers fascist types to run their fiefdoms, UNTIL the liliputian leaders start running *too many* users away. It's all about users per day engagement. If you harm that, the reddit admins show up and clean house. But in the interim, they'll let you think you own that subreddit.

gambiting 4y ago
And if you were a mod of a smaller forum that relied on ads to stay afloat, what exactly would happen if you started banning loads of people? It's the same thing, different name.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  That scenario basically doesn't exist. A smaller forum can thrive on $5 hosting. (We're comparing to reddit so I assume volunteer moderation.)

tcmart14 4y ago

Yea, that is the part of the equation people forget. They see a ban and big platform and thing those things are only happening on big platforms owned by big corporate people in shiny offices. Nope, censorship can happen in small communities ran by Billy Bob down the street to. It comes down more to people. If someone wants an echo chamber, they will create an echo chamber regardless if it is a subreddit or a MyBB instance on a shared hosting plan.