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To hook diners, an invasive species of carp gets a new name
- ghaff 4y ago>Louisiana’s wildlife department offers recipes for nutria, a semi-aquatic rodent with an irrepressible breeding habit. Been many years since I've been but I remember some signage at the Audubon Zoo in New Orleans with recipes for it. Very on-brand.
- bergenty 4y agoInteresting, never heard of these but they look like beavers or otters. Pure speculation but they look like their meat would be game central.
- jandrese 4y agoFrom what I've read it works best in Cajun cooking like Jambalaya.
- HankB99 4y agoWeed rats. ;) (I thought they looked more like muskrats.)
- WhyCause 4y agoThey are tasty in chili.
- phibz 4y agoThey look more like ROUS, Rodents Of Unusual Size, from The Princess Bride. At least that's what I thought when I first saw one.
- bitxbitxbitcoin 4y agoThey also offer a bounty on nutria tails. $6 a tail.[0] For those thinking it, they do have registration and other ways to eliminate the cobra effect. [0] https://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/news/ldwf-announces-increase-in-bounty-for-coastwide-nutria-control-program https://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/news/ldwf-announces-increase-i...
- exabrial 4y agoI mean we tried making a new sport out of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhfd9dIkXEk&t=57s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhfd9dIkXEk&t=57s (gives you an idea of how bad the situation is too)
- magneticnorth 4y agoThe paywall cuts off before you actually learn the name - "copi", short for copious.
- flazzarino 4y agothank you
- acheron 4y agoIt works fine in Firefox reader mode.
- cirrus3 4y agoPaywall - I guess I'll never know the new name
- animal_spirits 4y agoCopi, short for copious
- spacemanmatt 4y agoI wonder how many readers they've netted with their pun-tastic title, and whether we should actually reward that kind of trolling.
- ghaff 4y agoThat's pretty much a The Economist trademark. They really go for cleverness in heds and ledes.
- Lammy 4y agoI can cut them some slack for that part, but it's a drag how they refuse to put the rejigged name directly in the title instead of relying on click bait to reel me in.
- ghaff 4y agoI get your point, but if I'm a headline writer, it's pretty natural to want readers to click though to find out what the new name is--even if they are subscribers. There's definitely a balance between headlines that aren't too cryptic and those that still entice readers to read further.
- noisy_boy 4y agoI don't know... I fell for it hook, line and sinker.
- cbanek 4y agoDon't pay attention to their carping Economist writer. Just keep musseling your way to the top.
- spacemanmatt 4y agoFinally, a comment thread who GETS IT
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- chirau 4y agoThe link posted is paywalled. Here is a free but different article on the same issue. https://www.foodandwine.com/news/copi-fish-asian-carp-invasive-species https://www.foodandwine.com/news/copi-fish-asian-carp-invasi...
- chirau 4y agoWhy am i being downvoted though? I literally just posted a link to a non-paywalled site. No opinion added. And I get downvoted for that? Wow!
- egberts1 4y agoI guess starving journalists hang out here too. (Voted you back up) Oh wait, maybe tangentially, HN user named prostoalex is a rather well known Bot for stuffing links from NYT, The Economists, Wall Street Journal, and the like into Hacker News. Maybe this Bot is starving too.
- clamprecht 4y agohttps://archive.ph/4d4Pl https://archive.ph/4d4Pl
- seneca 4y ago"Copi" strikes me as quite a terrible name for a fish. It sounds very "cutesy".
- bombcar 4y agoCopi. Seethe. As the kids say, I guess. Chilean sea bass vs Patagonian toothfish all over again. Personally the second name sounds much more metal.
- danans 4y agoI ate this stuff once years ago. Loved it. Can't find it anywhere around me though.
- kasey_junk 4y agoThe first time I had it was after going into a high end fish market (quite far from my house) to get some good tuna. Saw it and it was cheap enough to take a flyer on. Was great. Went back the next weekend for it specifically.
- akkawwakka 4y agoGrew up dodging scores of it as they flew over our bass boat flying down the backwaters of the Mississippi. Twenty years ago I wouldn’t be able to find a single person who had ever eaten it and I’m not sure that’s any different today, which is a tragedy since it apparently tastes pretty nice.
- zitterbewegung 4y agoI wonder how it would taste as sushi.
- bpicolo 4y agoYou could, but probably a bad plan. We don't eat freshwater fish raw due to worse characteristics in terms of bacteria/parasites. (Though I can't really say how this plays out in terms of the whole deep freezing to kill parasites situation – not an expert, just my understanding)
- dec0dedab0de 4y agoSushi isn't necessarily raw
- asguy 4y agoHow much sushi have you eaten that’s cooked? Spam musubi doesn’t count.
- ghaff 4y agoUnagi primarily. Though also shrimp tempura and various vegetarian.
- asguy 4y agoI’ve had carne asada makizushi, but I feel like that’s the exception that proves the rule.
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- ryan_lane 4y agoLots. It's very common, especially at extremely expensive sushi places, for some types or cuts of fish (or other seafood) to be cooked, and to be sauced differently than others. Go to some $200+ a meal places and you'll definitely eat quite a bit of it. I think the most common way I've had it cooked it blowtorched, but some types of clams are baked, others are grilled, etc. (I live in Tokyo currently)
- msie 4y agoTo use man's ability to hunt a species to extinction for profit is genius.
- abc_lisper 4y agoLol. We are good at it. Pretty sure if a species of dinosaurs made it until now on an island, we would have wiped it off.
- adastra22 4y agoI mean, that describes the Dodo.
- sparker72678 4y agoIt would be hard to turn down a T-Rex burger.
- w-ll 4y agoAlligator tail is pretty good tho.
- cultofmetatron 4y agoyou mean the dodo or auk?
- RajT88 4y agoNow they need to make it easy to fish for. In IL to do it legally, you pretty much need a boat. There is only a few places you can do it without one. It is also only certain times of year.
- tedunangst 4y agoGoogle, in its great wisdom, returns the Wikipedia page for common carp as the first result for Asian carp, although we appear to be talking about several other species and specifically not common carp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_carp_in_North_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_carp_in_North_America
- wchar_t 4y agohttps://archive.ph/uU5eR https://archive.ph/uU5eR
- fyrn- 4y agoAsian carp -> copi Since the article tries it's harest to obfuscate that..
- olliej 4y agoDidn't they already do this with nutria?
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- neonate 4y agohttp://web.archive.org/web/20220719021857/https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/07/07/to-hook-american-diners-an-invasive-species-of-carp-gets-a-new-name http://web.archive.org/web/20220719021857/https://www.econom...
- walrus01 4y agoI recall something from 100+ years ago when they had a plan to import hippopotamus to louisiana, turn them loose to breed in the wild and market it as "lake cow bacon". https://www.wired.com/2013/12/hippopotamus-ranching/ https://www.wired.com/2013/12/hippopotamus-ranching/ Probably a good thing that there is not a population of thousands of feral hippopotamus going around.
- jandrese 4y agoGiven that hippos are notorious people killers I am glad this never happened.
- bigiain 4y ago> Probably a good thing that there is not a population of thousands of feral hippopotamus going around. You've heard of the "Cocaine Hippos", right? https://youtu.be/mz8J6lJkbFA https://youtu.be/mz8J6lJkbFA
- walrus01 4y agoyep, https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&client=ubuntu&q=pablo+escobar+hippos https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&client=ubuntu&q=pab...
- emmelaich 4y agoPablo Escobar's hippos are (were?) a pest in Colombia.
- thelibrarian 4y agoHere's a fun, short alt-history novel set in a world where that plan was actually implemented: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31445891-river-of-teeth https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31445891-river-of-teeth
- throwaway0a5e 4y agoI like the idea. Worst case they are more harm than help to the environment and wind up catching hot lead because of it. Large herbivores don't have the same potential to accidentally spread unnoticed or evade apex predators (us) like carp do. It wouldn't be the first time we've eradicated a large herbivore from the continent and it probably won't be the last.
- sfmike 4y agoChilean Seabass is Chilean toothfish, the former is a bit more palate whetting. Another sort of fish distributor marketing shift.
- 1-6 4y agoThey sell frozen Orange Roughy at Costco. It sounds more appetizing than it actually is.
- hosh 4y agoAlternate article from NPR Illinois: https://www.nprillinois.org/2022-07-01/if-you-cant-beat-em-eat-em-illinois-fisheries-rebrand-the-invasive-asian-carp https://www.nprillinois.org/2022-07-01/if-you-cant-beat-em-e...
- greenburger 4y agoNot the first time this has been tried to Asian Carp [0], other rebrands have included "silverfin" and "Kentucky Tuna" (yes really). Though apparently, some took legal issue with the latter [1]. [0] https://www.wideopenspaces.com/can-you-eat-asian-carp/ https://www.wideopenspaces.com/can-you-eat-asian-carp/ [1] https://aboutseafood.com/news/kentucky-tuna-a-bad-idea-thats-against-the-law/ https://aboutseafood.com/news/kentucky-tuna-a-bad-idea-thats...
- nivertech 4y agoNames like "Kentucky Tuna" are dangerous for public health safety reasons. If you want to re-brand a freshwater fish, please use other freshwater fish names, don't let people to assume it's a saltwater fish which can be eaten raw or slightly cured.
- mytailorisrich 4y agoProvided they taste good this can work very well. Like 'Chinese gooseberries' renamed 'kiwi' by clever NZ growers to get into US/UK markets.
- zikduruqe 4y agoHere is how you cook them. You take a cedar plank and lay the carp on it. Cover it with tomato paste, cilantro, brown sugar and lemon juice. Bake at 450 for 20 minutes, or smoke until it is flaky. Remove the carp off the board and throw it away, then eat the board.
- dfworks 4y agoThere was a similar situation in the UK where 'Spider Crab' was renamed 'Cornish King Crab'. As I understand, much of the 'Spider Crab' was exported to Spain but as this became less economically viable post Brexit the rebrand was aimed at encouraging domestic consumption.
- Havoc 4y agoDidn't work for Aussie kangaroo problem though