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Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists:

Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo..., also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

andrepd 4y ago
As a power user of side tabs, I have switched to Sideberry from TST.
Kaze404 4y ago
You can hide the tab bar through userstyles css. It can't be done from Firefox itself unfortunately, but once you set it up you never have to do it again.
timerol 4y ago
When I saw the title of this article, I assumed it had to be about Tree Style Tags. No other browser feature has so immediately become a feature I must have so quickly. Privacy and ad-blocking are great, but I could see myself being lazy and switching to a browser with a better UX, if one existed. But you'll have to take Tree Style Tabs from my cold, dead hands
- solarkraft 4y ago
  It's pretty much the only reason I'm staying with Firefox. Mozilla has pissed me off often enough for me to attempt to jump ship, but there's just nowhere to go. (I'm aware of Orion, but when I last used it I found it to still have performance and polish issues)
  - altano 4y ago
    Sadly the 1Password extension doesn't really work on Orion (no inline autofill and very long UI delays)
lordnacho 4y ago
TST is literally the killer feature for FF. It's actually the only reason I went to FF, it was getting out of hand to have all my tabs across the top, and it makes little sense with modern screens being so wide that giving up a little horizontal space to get legible titles is absolutely worth it. Someone in Chrome/Edge/Safari must be thinking about doing this, I don't know why it hasn't been cloned. Can't be too hard to do.
- Tsiklon 4y ago
  Edge has vertical tabs but no grouping by parent tab.
  - sathyabhat 4y ago
    Edge does have grouping (might be behind edge://flags)
    - Tsiklon 4y ago
      Ohh cool! I have to look into that. My workstation is quite locked down at work so edge is the only alternative to chrome available.
- UncleSlacky 4y ago
  Vivaldi does this too.
- agumonkey 4y ago
  I never got to leverage TST, something about the UX bothers me. I have better flow with Tab Stash. Also TST suffers with my hoarding habits and the subtree features have bare naked UI.
  - vin047 4y ago
    From the extension description, Tab Stash seems to save all open tabs as bookmarks. But this feature is already built into Firefox. Am I missing something? I’ve never used either of these extensions (will be trying out TST) so forgive my ignorance if I’m missing something obvious!
anotheryou 4y ago
also check out "sidebery" as a modern alternative that does a bit more
- Moru 4y ago
  Am I doing something wrong? Every time I try to move something into a group, it just gets deselected and I have to select them again and then sometimes it works to move into a group.
  - anotheryou 4y ago
    you select (how this works depends on your settings, I do shift or ctrl + click), right click, group. but most useful is the auto-grouping of child tabs anyways
    - Moru 4y ago
      Yes, making groups was easy but moving tabs to groups only works every other time I do it. Very strange.
      - anotheryou 4y ago
        indentation matters (left and right) if that's a problem
- altano 4y ago
  I've tried to switch from TST to Sidebery twice and both times hit small but bad bugs (restore not working on browser restart) and went back to TST. It's simultaneously slicker but buggier. It looks like Sidebery is still under development though: https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery/issues https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery/issues
  - anotheryou 4y ago
    I also had bugs years ago, now I have it make snapshots every hour or so as backups (but didn't need them yet)
TheArcane 4y ago
Tab search doesn't work across containers afaik and it's therefore pretty useless
dandanua 4y ago
> I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden 1. Go to `about:config` and set toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets true 2. Go to `about:support` and find your profile folder 3. Create subfolder `chrome` there 4. Create file `userChrome.css` in `chrome` folder 5. Put this text in it: #main-window #TabsToolbar { visibility: collapse !important; }
appletrotter 4y ago
Is there a way to make TST look nicer? I’m sure a lot of people appreciate its UI, but it really stands out to me in a negative way.
- altano 4y ago
  If you like my garish and ugly theme, it is TST friendly (it will theme the TST tabs as long as you pick the "Photon" TST theme in the TST settings): https://alan.norbauer.com/projects/alanglow https://alan.norbauer.com/projects/alanglow
- wlonkly 4y ago
  I use the Proton theme with this custom CSS: https://gist.github.com/wlonkly/6c21134adbdeb6eb257f52076bc3e617 https://gist.github.com/wlonkly/6c21134adbdeb6eb257f52076bc3... and it gives me a nice and minimalist UI consisting of just-dense-enough tab titles, with the current tab highlighted. Looks like so: https://i.imgur.com/FB59WfX.png https://i.imgur.com/FB59WfX.png
- solarkraft 4y ago
  I like using Sidebery, which on top of feeling lighter-weight offers a bunch of themes, including a very clean one.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  People hate the UI. It was clean before the transition to webextensions, now it's messy and can only be fixed through futzing with userChrome.css (with no help from mozilla.)
- yellowapple 4y ago
  It looks nice enough to me on both Linux and Windows. If you're on macOS, though, then yeah, I feel your pain.
chakkepolja 4y ago
I prefer Chrome's tab groups over TST, its simpler and needs less organizing IMO. But needs some more keyboard shortcuts.
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somishere 4y ago
Not quite a hidden tab bar but I modded the TST / FF chrome so only active or recently active tabs show (~3min timer) per personal preference: https://gist.github.com/theprojectsomething/6813b2c27611be03e67c78d936b0f760 https://gist.github.com/theprojectsomething/6813b2c27611be03...
nextaccountic 4y ago
You need to use userChrome.css (that's what I do and it works great). it's a bit of a hidden feature, I hope they expose it to extensions eventually, maybe with a different API https://gist.github.com/ruanbekker/f800e098936b27c7cf956c56005fe362 https://gist.github.com/ruanbekker/f800e098936b27c7cf956c560... https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-tabs-at-the-top-of- https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-ta... https://medium.com/@Aenon/firefox-hide-native-tabs-and-titlebar-f0b00bdbb88b https://medium.com/@Aenon/firefox-hide-native-tabs-and-title... /r/firefoxcss is great for asking questions regarding how to customize TST https://www.reddit.com/r/FirefoxCSS/search?q=tst&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all https://www.reddit.com/r/FirefoxCSS/search?q=tst&restrict_sr...
illiac786 4y ago
I prefer Berry over Tree Style Tabs. Less clunky UI.
yellowapple 4y ago
> I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. That's possible by editing userChrome.css. I don't remember the exact incantations, but I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in TST's docs and/or settings page.

andrepd 4y ago

As a power user of side tabs, I have switched to Sideberry from TST.

Kaze404 4y ago

You can hide the tab bar through userstyles css. It can't be done from Firefox itself unfortunately, but once you set it up you never have to do it again.

timerol 4y ago

When I saw the title of this article, I assumed it had to be about Tree Style Tags. No other browser feature has so immediately become a feature I must have so quickly. Privacy and ad-blocking are great, but I could see myself being lazy and switching to a browser with a better UX, if one existed. But you'll have to take Tree Style Tabs from my cold, dead hands

solarkraft 4y ago
It's pretty much the only reason I'm staying with Firefox. Mozilla has pissed me off often enough for me to attempt to jump ship, but there's just nowhere to go. (I'm aware of Orion, but when I last used it I found it to still have performance and polish issues)
- altano 4y ago
  Sadly the 1Password extension doesn't really work on Orion (no inline autofill and very long UI delays)

lordnacho 4y ago

TST is literally the killer feature for FF. It's actually the only reason I went to FF, it was getting out of hand to have all my tabs across the top, and it makes little sense with modern screens being so wide that giving up a little horizontal space to get legible titles is absolutely worth it. Someone in Chrome/Edge/Safari must be thinking about doing this, I don't know why it hasn't been cloned. Can't be too hard to do.

Tsiklon 4y ago
Edge has vertical tabs but no grouping by parent tab.
- sathyabhat 4y ago
  Edge does have grouping (might be behind edge://flags)
  - Tsiklon 4y ago
    Ohh cool! I have to look into that. My workstation is quite locked down at work so edge is the only alternative to chrome available.
UncleSlacky 4y ago
Vivaldi does this too.
agumonkey 4y ago
I never got to leverage TST, something about the UX bothers me. I have better flow with Tab Stash. Also TST suffers with my hoarding habits and the subtree features have bare naked UI.
- vin047 4y ago
  From the extension description, Tab Stash seems to save all open tabs as bookmarks. But this feature is already built into Firefox. Am I missing something? I’ve never used either of these extensions (will be trying out TST) so forgive my ignorance if I’m missing something obvious!

anotheryou 4y ago

also check out "sidebery" as a modern alternative that does a bit more

Moru 4y ago
Am I doing something wrong? Every time I try to move something into a group, it just gets deselected and I have to select them again and then sometimes it works to move into a group.
- anotheryou 4y ago
  you select (how this works depends on your settings, I do shift or ctrl + click), right click, group. but most useful is the auto-grouping of child tabs anyways
  - Moru 4y ago
    Yes, making groups was easy but moving tabs to groups only works every other time I do it. Very strange.
    - anotheryou 4y ago
      indentation matters (left and right) if that's a problem
altano 4y ago
I've tried to switch from TST to Sidebery twice and both times hit small but bad bugs (restore not working on browser restart) and went back to TST. It's simultaneously slicker but buggier. It looks like Sidebery is still under development though: https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery/issues https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery/issues
- anotheryou 4y ago
  I also had bugs years ago, now I have it make snapshots every hour or so as backups (but didn't need them yet)

TheArcane 4y ago

Tab search doesn't work across containers afaik and it's therefore pretty useless

dandanua 4y ago

> I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden 1. Go to `about:config` and set toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets true 2. Go to `about:support` and find your profile folder 3. Create subfolder `chrome` there 4. Create file `userChrome.css` in `chrome` folder 5. Put this text in it: #main-window #TabsToolbar { visibility: collapse !important; }

appletrotter 4y ago

Is there a way to make TST look nicer? I’m sure a lot of people appreciate its UI, but it really stands out to me in a negative way.

altano 4y ago
If you like my garish and ugly theme, it is TST friendly (it will theme the TST tabs as long as you pick the "Photon" TST theme in the TST settings): https://alan.norbauer.com/projects/alanglow https://alan.norbauer.com/projects/alanglow
wlonkly 4y ago
I use the Proton theme with this custom CSS: https://gist.github.com/wlonkly/6c21134adbdeb6eb257f52076bc3e617 https://gist.github.com/wlonkly/6c21134adbdeb6eb257f52076bc3... and it gives me a nice and minimalist UI consisting of just-dense-enough tab titles, with the current tab highlighted. Looks like so: https://i.imgur.com/FB59WfX.png https://i.imgur.com/FB59WfX.png
solarkraft 4y ago
I like using Sidebery, which on top of feeling lighter-weight offers a bunch of themes, including a very clean one.
pessimizer 4y ago
People hate the UI. It was clean before the transition to webextensions, now it's messy and can only be fixed through futzing with userChrome.css (with no help from mozilla.)
yellowapple 4y ago
It looks nice enough to me on both Linux and Windows. If you're on macOS, though, then yeah, I feel your pain.

chakkepolja 4y ago

I prefer Chrome's tab groups over TST, its simpler and needs less organizing IMO. But needs some more keyboard shortcuts.

deleted 4y ago

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somishere 4y ago

Not quite a hidden tab bar but I modded the TST / FF chrome so only active or recently active tabs show (~3min timer) per personal preference: https://gist.github.com/theprojectsomething/6813b2c27611be03e67c78d936b0f760 https://gist.github.com/theprojectsomething/6813b2c27611be03...

nextaccountic 4y ago

You need to use userChrome.css (that's what I do and it works great). it's a bit of a hidden feature, I hope they expose it to extensions eventually, maybe with a different API https://gist.github.com/ruanbekker/f800e098936b27c7cf956c56005fe362 https://gist.github.com/ruanbekker/f800e098936b27c7cf956c560... https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-tabs-at-the-top-of- https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-ta... https://medium.com/@Aenon/firefox-hide-native-tabs-and-titlebar-f0b00bdbb88b https://medium.com/@Aenon/firefox-hide-native-tabs-and-title... /r/firefoxcss is great for asking questions regarding how to customize TST https://www.reddit.com/r/FirefoxCSS/search?q=tst&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all https://www.reddit.com/r/FirefoxCSS/search?q=tst&restrict_sr...

illiac786 4y ago

I prefer Berry over Tree Style Tabs. Less clunky UI.

yellowapple 4y ago

> I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. That's possible by editing userChrome.css. I don't remember the exact incantations, but I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in TST's docs and/or settings page.